webfact Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 By Praphorn Praphornkul BANGKOK (NNT) - The government’s Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) and the Ministry of Public Health held a joint press conference June 14 to clarify issues related to COVID-19 vaccine availability, which caused misunderstandings, and the rollout of vaccines, which is behind schedule. Following the joint press conference, the BMA is fine-tuning its vaccine management according to its quota. Prime Minister and Defense Minister, Gen. Prayut Chan-o-cha, as CCSA Director, said the vaccine doses are gradually arriving in the country. If the government orders one million doses, not all of them are delivered at once. They arrive in batches, and all sectors must manage their vaccine quotas accordingly. Gen. Prayut explained the issue to the Senate meeting, insisting that the government is addressing related issues while ensuring enough vaccine doses are available until next year. He also told reporters that the government is doing its best to acquire more vaccines. Local agencies must manage their vaccine quotas in accordance with availability at any given time, and the doses have to be given to risk groups first. They include registered people with congenital diseases. Currently, the COVID-19 vaccine doses are for emergency use. They can be only be accessed through reservation. The government is working to distribute the doses to the people quickly, and agreements have been made to receive them in batches. Almost 100 percent of medical personnel as well as police, soldiers and volunteers, have been inoculated. The vaccination drive on June 7, which was set as a part of the national agenda, aimed to inoculate people over 60 years old and people with congenital diseases, to reduce the severity of infections and prevent deaths. Other target groups include teachers and education personnel in preparation for the reopening of schools, people working in the public transport sector as they may come into contact with passengers, and workers covered by Section 33 of the Social Security Act to help drive the economy forward. This month, most of the COVID-19 vaccine doses managed by the BMA are the AstraZeneca vaccine. A meeting of the BMA’s subcommittee on COVID-19 vaccine management on June 12, approved a proposal on vaccine management, training and monitoring. The first priority is to inoculate those who have received their first AstraZeneca shot, followed by elderly people who have any of seven congenital diseases and have registered for their vaccination, medical workers who have not been vaccinated, and members of the public who have signed up to receive their vaccination at one of 25 venues under the Thai Ruam Jai, Krungthep Plodpai (Thais United, Safe Bangkok) system. Hospitals in Bangkok and those supervised by the BMA, the Royal Thai Armed Forces, the Royal Thai Police, universities and major private firms, about 100 in total, are also to open a vaccine reservation system for at-risk elderly people who have not registered with the Mohpromt system. The hospitals will set priorities according to requests and inform those who wish to receive a vaccination about their appointments. -- © Copyright NNT 2021-06-16 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 That's easy nothing for you and zero for you and two shots for me problem solved ???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 What could possibly go wrong with these Keystone Cops running the clownshow? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 Comforting to know that the police and military have all been vaccinated, nothing like getting priorities right. And this is nothing like getting priorities right. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 His directions would be helpful and constructive had they had anything to share, the only items in abundance at the coming from the government are empty promises and dates of distributions that turned out to be nothing but a hoax.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxbr Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Tightrope between world pharma and own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, ezzra said: His directions would be helpful and constructive had they had anything to share, the only items in abundance at the coming from the government are empty promises and dates of distributions that turned out to be nothing but a hoax.. Quote: "Local agencies must manage their vaccine quotas in accordance with availability at any given time, and the doses have to be given to risk groups first." Well there we have it, the PM has given the magic answer. His statement has as much value as saying 'If things don't change they will stay the same'. His comments are a waste of time and breath and take his leadership image backwards even further. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 seems obvious that the various agencies were promised vaccines and never got them indicating that there simply is not enough to go around and to maintain their promised rollout plan - promises were made that were broken whos fault is that - well it is clearly beyond the ability of the health department to manage this rollout, Mr Anutin has not only failed recently but also failed from months ago to procure enough vaccine - why is this genius still in office when it has been proven beyond any doubt the man is an #### and blames everyone else for his failures 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post faraday Posted June 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, webfact said: and all sectors must manage their vaccine quotas accordingly. Once again, trying to shift any responsibility away from him & this time on to "sectors" Last week, he did something similar, using "the people" as a way to de-emphasise his culpability. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 There's talk that Thai 'friends of friends', some relatively fit and in their 40's, have already get themselves double-shot in Udon Thani. It's easy to imagine that this is being mirrored elsewhere in the country, especially that black hole that is Bangkok. We must assume that this ooze of vaccines from the allocations to "medical personnel as well as police, soldiers and volunteers" has unsurprisingly contributed to the stuttering failure of the vaccine rollout for the great unvaccinated. Typically, the armies of the world are blessed with a good handle on logistics management and indeed are mission-critical in the current 'surge' test and vaccination in the UK's northwest. Meanwhile, in Thailand... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Difficult to manage I guess . After all if you split zero several ways you are still left with zero ! ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HaoleBoy Posted June 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2021 Why didn't Prayuth say this before June 7 ? After 1st day of nation vaccine rollout he declared it a victory, yet knew few doses would be arriving. His vaccine rollout didn't even last 7 days ... Why do the Thai people put up with him? Yingluck was better .... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 hours ago, webfact said: BANGKOK (NNT) - The government’s Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) and the Ministry of Public Health held a joint press conference June 14 to clarify issues related to COVID-19 vaccine availability, which caused misunderstandings, and the rollout of vaccines, which is behind schedule. Following the joint press conference, the BMA is fine-tuning its vaccine management according to its quota. Should that not read "lack of availability" ? There is no misunderstanding, the government is selling the country short ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoYai Posted June 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, webfact said: Gen. Prayut explained the issue to the Senate meeting, insisting that the government is addressing related issues while ensuring enough vaccine doses are available until next year. He also told reporters that the government is doing its best to acquire more vaccines. Local agencies must manage their vaccine quotas in accordance with availability at any given time, and the doses have to be given to risk groups first. In other words he made a massive cluster f $*% of the planning and is now passing the book. What a bloody shambles, not enough stock to match the much acclaimed 'programme', a registration system that isn't working and may I suggest worse is to follow. With any such programme a centralised system is needed - the following is a recipe for mass confusion. 3 hours ago, webfact said: Hospitals in Bangkok and those supervised by the BMA, the Royal Thai Armed Forces, the Royal Thai Police, universities and major private firms, about 100 in total, are also to open a vaccine reservation system for at-risk elderly people who have not registered with the Mohpromt system. The hospitals will set priorities according to requests and inform those who wish to receive a vaccination about their appointments. As for 'vaccines gradually arriving in the country' - what happened to the Thai AZ vaccine? I thought that was the reason for the June 7 start? Edited June 16, 2021 by KhaoYai 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 "All sides..." Hmm, I though he put himself in charge of EVERYTHING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: "All sides..." Hmm, I though he put himself in charge of EVERYTHING? He did, until things go wrong - then he passes the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, HaoleBoy said: Why do the Thai people put up with him? Because the don't have a choice - you don't actually believe he won the election do you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted June 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Thailand said: Comforting to know that the police and military have all been vaccinated, nothing like getting priorities right. And this is nothing like getting priorities right. But it is a priority. The whole ramshackle government is propped up by the police and government. If they get the hump and withdraw their support the whole show would collapse in a couple of days. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phills2k1 Posted June 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2021 I notice that throughout all of this, there's one very important component (some would call it a manufacturing facility) that's conveniently left out of every conversation They've got to be so terrified every time they speak in public to not slip up and mention the manufacturer that shall not be named (blamed) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrv Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Misunderstandings... Gradually... You had a year to get things in order and work to protect the people you are meant to serve, a whole year. But you did nothing except crow about your success. However, pretty much 99% of people know the real truth and it's all about money and control. The top dogs have handling the pandemic with stupefying ineptness and idiocy, sprinkled daily with lies and deflections (oops I mean misunderstandings). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted June 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, phills2k1 said: I notice that throughout all of this, there's one very important component Some authorities have slipped up and mentioned "production" issues. Bangkok Governor Aswin was one. In a separate briefing, Bangkok governor Aswin Kwanmuang said there had been some "technical errors" in delivery of vaccines The quantity, source and delivery of vaccine supplies remains shrouded in obfuscation and mystery. Some obviously know waht;s going on, but for some reason they choose to shield that information. Edited June 16, 2021 by mtls2005 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Many of the statements in the article are incorrect. I know health care workers who are still waiting to be vaccinated. The same with teachers. People have received vaccinations without appointments and vaccinations have gone to people at little risk while other, older people more at risk have not been vaccinated. I think more of the vaccines have been Sinovac and not AZ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 .......and the finger pointing starts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, newnative said: Many of the statements in the article are incorrect. I know health care workers who are still waiting to be vaccinated. The same with teachers. People have received vaccinations without appointments and vaccinations have gone to people at little risk while other, older people more at risk have not been vaccinated. I think more of the vaccines have been Sinovac and not AZ. Ah, but "do you know who they are"? That is probably be of the prime movers in deciding who gets vaccinated - after all, we even had a chap on here crowing about getting a jab on day one " because his wife was friends with the head nurse"! Edited June 16, 2021 by herfiehandbag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Bangkok, Bangkok, Bangkok. How about giving some information about the rest of the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 How to they expect the hospitals and doctors at the front line to 'manage'? water down the vaccines to give it to more people? Last week some hospital director in an attempt to suck up to his superior already attempted a hare-brained idea to use shorter syringe needle to draw 13 shots from the ampules instead of 11 or 12at a stretch resulting in the vaccines not reaching the depth required for injection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phills2k1 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Some authorities have slipped up and mentioned "production" issues. Bangkok Governor Aswin was one. In a separate briefing, Bangkok governor Aswin Kwanmuang said there had been some "technical errors" in delivery of vaccines The quantity, source and delivery of vaccine supplies remains shrouded in obfuscation and mystery. Some obviously know waht;s going on, but for some reason they choose to shield that information. Just out of curiosity, have recent articles in the New York Times and Financial Times about things made their way over? Are they blocked? I came to the States end of May for my jabs etc, so I've been wondering how both articles are being handled there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, digbeth said: How to they expect the hospitals and doctors at the front line to 'manage'? water down the vaccines to give it to more people? Last week some hospital director in an attempt to suck up to his superior already attempted a hare-brained idea to use shorter syringe needle to draw 13 shots from the ampules instead of 11 or 12at a stretch resulting in the vaccines not reaching the depth required for injection Well, the whole 16-week thing is "managing". Who knows if/when those folks will get their second shot? If it's a mess now, just wait until the fight between those wanting a first dose, and the second dosers. Easy to say all will be well come the end of September, but what is that based on? Past performance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I have a slightly better (selfish) attitude since I got an apparently genuine appointment for 6/22 on the site yesterday. But there were people who tried minutes later who say they didn't. I kept thinking any such site should be able to discern, well, this is for people over 60 and this guy is 21 YEARS over 60-but who knows. Of course, if my appointment fails I'll do a flip-flop-I have good models. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, phills2k1 said: I came to the States end of May for my jabs etc, so I've been wondering how both articles are being handled there Is the internet broken there? Surely you can folllow developments from afar? Haven't seen nr heard about any NYT/WSJ censorship here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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