Pub and bars appeal to government/CCSA: Let us open and serve alcohol again from July 1st

[webfact]

Picture: Daily News

 

Deputy leader of the Democrat Party Prin Phannichphak in his capacity of leader of the Modern Business Group took representatives from the night entertainment industry, fitness and event organisers to beg the government and CCSA to allow them to reopen from the start of next month.

 

The man who can help decide their fate - Gen Natthapol Nakphanich, National Security Council chief - received their petition.

 

While not a frosty response, Nataphol said that restrictions were in place for a reason. He said he understood the needs of the businesses and would consider their requests. 

 

It was very much diplomatic, guarded talk with no promises. 

 

Owner of The Rock Pub, Nonthadech Buraphasitthiporn outlined the needs of the group imploring the government to rescind closure orders on July 1st, and allow alcohol sales in pubs, bars and at events. 

 

He indicated there was no evidence of alcohol causing infection. 

 

He said that the industry was winning to comply with protocols as they have shown before but many were now on their knees after hundreds of days of closure over three waves of the pandemic. 

 

Prin noted that these businesses had taken the brunt of controls and economic impact. 

 

Nonthadech further called for consideration of vaccine supplies for people in the industry, compensation and help packages and proper dialog with the public to drive change. 

 

He wants the public to have a greater say in driving government and CCSA policy, Daily News reported from government house yesterday. 

 

 

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[petermik]

About time..go for it.

[RotBenz8888]

2 minutes ago, webfact said:

He indicated there was no evidence of alcohol causing infection. 

Really???? 

[2009]

When shopping malls are open so should pubs.

 

Ok, not nightclubs, I understand. But pubs at least the ones serving food.

[DrJack54]

"Pubs bars and events"?

 

What's that mean. Also what hours are we talking about.

[ChipButty]

Enough is enough now guys let them sell alcohol people are buying it anyway from other places 

[Disparate Dan]

28 minutes ago, 2009 said:

When shopping malls are open so should pubs.

 

Ok, not nightclubs, I understand. But pubs at least the ones serving food.

Yes, it's inherently stupid to say you can sit and eat in an establishment, but the drink you consume can't contain alcohol. I defy even TV posters to argue the logic.

I'm less bothered by that (I can drink in plenty of places - TIT) than the absurd closure of private pools and gyms. I'm seizing up through lack of exercise, which makes me more likely to catch this daft virus thingie.

Edited June 17, 2021 by Disparate Dan

[mtls2005]

Might as well give it a go. What's the worst that could happen? A few thousand more people die, and a fourth wave of Delta variant further sets back the country.

 

Or, somehow, things are manageable.

 

Load up on amulets and offerings, and consult the fortune tellers.

[JonnyF]

Start with allowing alcoholic drinks in restaurants or with meals in pubs. As long as social distancing procedures are followed then there is no reason that a couple of pints with a meal will cause COVID. It would breathe some life into the hospitality sector.

 

I think girly/gogo bars and nightclubs can wait a while. Without stating the obvious, from a practical standpoint I do see how these places would be a breeding ground for the virus and given Thailand's disastrous, inept, pathetic, laughable, pitiful, woeful vaccine rollout that might not be wise at this point.

[Disparate Dan]

57 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I think girly/gogo bars and nightclubs can wait a while.

Agreed. Apart from a few s@x-starved farang, there are no punters anyway yet.

57 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Thailand's disastrous, inept, pathetic, laughable, pitiful, woeful vaccine rollout that might not be wise at this point.

True, but let's remember Thailand is hardly alone in this. Thailand has no monopoly on Incompetent flip-flopping know-nothings and almost everything we are seeing here in terms of laughability an be seen elsewhere

[I note Aussie just today rejigged their recommendations for the AZ jobbie - it alternates weekly between over-50 and over-60 only. Meanwhile Bojo's (mal)administration in England completely reneged on its "promise" to re-open next week. They are all equally stupid, venal and incompetent sc*m]

[itsari]

They need to take a look at them selves before complaining as many of there fraternity never stuck to the rules when they were allowed to open . 

I miss going out for a drink , yet I understand why the policy is to close all bars .

[wordchild]

10 minutes ago, itsari said:

They need to take a look at them selves before complaining as many of there fraternity never stuck to the rules when they were allowed to open . 

I miss going out for a drink , yet I understand why the policy is to close all bars .

Yes exactly right. 

I have kids at school in Bangkok and they have had a very disruptive 12 plus months, every time there is a lockdown  schools have  closed down.  The recent outbreak and possibly, also the first one, likely spread initially in nightlife settings, not in schools! but kids have suffered.

Restaurants and bars (with alcohol)  maybe ok but i would prefer they keep the clubs and other entertainment venues closed until most of the country has been vaccinated.

Most other parents i know feel the same. 

[itsari]

34 minutes ago, Disparate Dan said:

Agreed. Apart from a few s@x-starved farang, there are no punters anyway yet.

True, but let's remember Thailand is hardly alone in this. Thailand has no monopoly on Incompetent flip-flopping know-nothings and almost everything we are seeing here in terms of laughability an be seen elsewhere

[I note Aussie just today rejigged their recommendations for the AZ jobbie - it alternates weekly between over-50 and over-60 only. Meanwhile Bojo's (mal)administration in England completely reneged on its "promise" to re-open next week. They are all equally stupid, venal and incompetent sc*m]

Its not easy to follow a virus and be sure you are making the correct decisions . That goes for Aussies , Brits and Thais as you have mentioned all three .

[itsari]

2 minutes ago, wordchild said:

Yes exactly right. 

I have kids at school in Bangkok and they have had a very disruptive 12 plus months, every time there is a lockdown  schools have  closed down.  The recent outbreak and possibly, also the first one, likely spread initially in nightlife settings, not in schools! but kids have suffered.

Restaurants and bars (with alcohol)  maybe ok but i would prefer they keep the clubs and other entertainment venues closed until most of the country has been vaccinated.

Most other parents i know feel the same. 

Thank you for your input and agree what you say  . The patrons of licensed premises are also to blame for the closures . Not a great deal you can do about them apart from close all licensed premises down .

[Cake Monster]

21 minutes ago, wordchild said:

Yes exactly right. 

I have kids at school in Bangkok and they have had a very disruptive 12 plus months, every time there is a lockdown  schools have  closed down.  The recent outbreak and possibly, also the first one, likely spread initially in nightlife settings, not in schools! but kids have suffered.

Restaurants and bars (with alcohol)  maybe ok but i would prefer they keep the clubs and other entertainment venues closed until most of the country has been vaccinated.

Most other parents i know feel the same. 

Every single Bar, Club and Night Spot should remain closed. As should any other establishment that could serve Alcohol.

Not being able to sit on a bar Stool, with some Lady hanging off your neck whilst being completely Rat Faced and trying to be funny, is not going to Kill you.

 

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Really???? 

It got me  a few doses in my life....

[itsari]

3 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Every single Bar, Club and Night Spot should remain closed. As should any other establishment that could serve Alcohol.

Not being able to sit on a bar Stool, with some Lady hanging off your neck whilst being completely Rat Faced and trying to be funny, is not going to Kill you.

 

Can you enlighten us more about ladies hanging from your neck while being rat faced ? 

Sounds more like it will save you from a fate worse than death . Gives a new meaning about going out for a drink .

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

He said he understood the needs of the businesses and would consider their requests. 

 

It was very much diplomatic, guarded talk with no promises. 

Sounds like Junta talk of 'you'll do exactly as we say'

[Disparate Dan]

1 hour ago, itsari said:

Its not easy to follow a virus and be sure you are making the correct decisions

Of course. So given they know no more than we do why don't they 1. stop pretending they are competent (voters everywhere already know the tw#ts couldn't tie their own shoes, let alone run a pandemic) and 2. let us make our own decisions. It won't be any worse, but it might just get things back to 'normal', which is of course what the pollies don't want.

[Promsak]

4 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Really???? 

You question that statement? Do you have evidence to the contrary?

[Mr Meeseeks]

Are gentlemen's clubs for hi-so's and politicians still open?

[asiacurious]

I've seen beer being served in restaurants.  Order one and they deliver it to you in a large insulated tumbler (with ice).

[Surelynot]

I think previously, bars probably were relatively safe to stay open........but with Johnson variant about to take off as it has in the UK, I am not sure this is a good time.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Disparate Dan said:

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I think girly/gogo bars and nightclubs can wait a while.

Agreed. Apart from a few s@x-starved farang, there are no punters anyway yet.

Don't forget the "s@x-starved" [sic] Thais who contribute much more to those industries than foreigners do.

[Surelynot]

24 minutes ago, asiacurious said:

I've seen beer being served in restaurants.  Order one and they deliver it to you in a large insulated tumbler (with ice).

All the bars near us are open.....pool tables.....music blasting out.

 

Last night the police piled in, about ten of them arrived on motorbikes.......'arrested' a bar girl....took her outside, the boss policeman had his photo taken with her......they all laughed and then went??????

[Dazinoz]

I was told 2 days ago by a bar owner in Loi Kroh, Chiang Mai that bars allowed to open tomorrow the 18th so not sure what is happening.

[Thomas J]

Is it just the governments dislike of alcohol that causes them to respond whenever they can with punitive measures? 

I can dine at a restaurant whether open air or inside and consume any beverage so long as it is not alcoholic.  That makes no sense.  I and the people around me are just as much at risk if I remove my mask to consume a glass of water as I am a glass of beer. 

I can stand shoulder to shoulder next to people at the meat counter at Makro or stand in a crowded check out lane and that is ok. 

Worse yet, I can go on a crowded BTS train in Bangkok and that is OK.  

Why the demonizing of bars and pubs?  The idea that somehow that Covid is more easily spread, or that there is more likelihood of spreading Covid in a bar is certainly not proven by any factual evidence.  From a risk standpoint I would certainly choose to take my chances in a pub, particularly an open air one than inside a BTS train or the enclosed cabin of a bus, or airplane. 

[chalawaan]

When the middle-class finally turn on the military muppets in frustration and economic desperation, it's all over bar the shouting shooting.

 

Interesting times ahead. 

 

Chok dee!

[chalawaan]

11 minutes ago, Dazinoz said:

I was told 2 days ago by a bar owner in Loi Kroh, Chiang Mai that bars allowed to open tomorrow the 18th so not sure what is happening.

See you there!

 

I'll be the half-cut geezer in the mask with a hole for the beer-straw...

 

PS: That BTS picture above, they're all so close, they may as well be having (now banned) sex. At least it would be a fun ride to work.

Edited June 17, 2021 by chalawaan

[itsari]

23 minutes ago, Dazinoz said:

I was told 2 days ago by a bar owner in Loi Kroh, Chiang Mai that bars allowed to open tomorrow the 18th so not sure what is happening.

Wishful thinking