dmarc028 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Hey guys, I’ve been endlessly waiting for my school to provide me a work permit. Now I’ve found another job, higher pay, and can provide the work permit. Should I give my current employer any notice of resignation? I’m scared they will withhold my salary if I give them notice? thanks in advance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 What is your visa or extension of stay status? If on the 90 day entry from a non-b visa you can change jobs easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 What does it say on your contract? If you walk out before giving the notice period, usually a month, I don’t think you stand much chance of getting paid, but you might be lucky - I have done it a couple of times and walked away from a weeks salary. You could try contacting your future employer, to ask if they will wait and start next month. You wouldn’t be the first person to wait until the moneys in the bank before telling the school. I don’t know if there is an answer - I had the same situation as you, no WP in one school and in another, things weren’t working out and I was going to get the boot anyway, so I jumped before I was pushed - even still, I got the job, finished the week, which I thought was considerate for the kids, but still withheld the weeks pay. It’s usual that the new school can’t wait, because they have been teacher-less for sometime and need to pacify the paying parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackdd Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 Without work permit you are working illegally, so the work contract is probably considered void anyway, and they can't enforce it. I would just walk away after you have been paid, there is nothing they can do without facing prosecution themself. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc028 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Im on a covid visa at the moment so they have no control over my visa. Obviously where Im from we give two weeks notice but Im also afraid that they will withhold my salary if I give any notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, dmarc028 said: Im on a covid visa at the moment so they have no control over my visa. Obviously where Im from we give two weeks notice but Im also afraid that they will withhold my salary if I give any notice. I assume you are on a 60 day covid 19 extension of stay (it is not a visa). You can walk away form the job without any repercussions. If you entered the country visa exempt or on a tourist visa you can apply for a non-b visa at immigration with supporting documents from your employer. For teaching the requirements are here to get a 90 day non-b visa entry. https://bangkokimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/02.pdf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc028 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Thank you. Although In general, I would usually give 2 weeks to a month notice, im just worried that they will withhold my salary if I give them any sort of notice before the salary is returned at the end of the month. So I shouldn't worry if I just leave the school after receiving my salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post problemfarang Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 get your salary and say bye with a letter. obviously they deserved this. good luck with the new place ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 They didn’t get you a work permit. You do not owe them any loyalty or respect. IF they are the type of institution which refuses to organise a work permit, they are the type of institution to withhold or refuse payment if you leave. Thus: Wait for payment, then leave politely, verbally, use no work permit as an excuse for leaving. Do not leave by letter as that shows admitted proof of working. They were employing you illegally. You were working illegally. They can’t do anything about you receiving your latest payment then leaving. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 5 hours ago, dmarc028 said: Now I’ve found another job, higher pay, and can provide the work permit. Let me guess, in your current job they also promised you a work permit. Lots of employers promise that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc028 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Thanks everyone. It's been over a year at this school, and I've got my degree and transcripts all available. Anyways, I've concluded it seems best to get my pay and then verbally tell them this is my last day. Feel bad for leaving like this but it is what it is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 18 hours ago, dmarc028 said: Thanks everyone. It's been over a year at this school, and I've got my degree and transcripts all available. Anyways, I've concluded it seems best to get my pay and then verbally tell them this is my last day. Feel bad for leaving like this but it is what it is. LOL .. A YEAR!!!! So you have been extending your visa every 60 days (or however one it is)? Thats not fair. I think 3 months, a probation period, is a long enough period to wait. There is no reason to feel bad, it of their own doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kynikoi Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 First post. Assuming a long time is over 90 days. You have no wp. You have no B visa. Get your money and GO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafPinto Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 22 hours ago, dmarc028 said: Im on a covid visa at the moment so they have no control over my visa. Obviously where Im from we give two weeks notice but Im also afraid that they will withhold my salary if I give any notice. What's a "Covid visa"? I'm on retirement visa. Do you still need 800k in your bank or just show, that you believe that Cowfit didn't come from the mothership up north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, RafPinto said: What's a "Covid visa"? it is a covid 19 60 day extension of stay (not a visa). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalorymetr Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) Just be careful they might report you for working illegally and you will be deported. You cannot start working without WP. What are you even thinking? You risk being banned for what? Next time you only go to work on the day your WP is in your hands. Edited June 20, 2021 by Kalorymetr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted June 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kalorymetr said: Just be careful they might report you for working illegally and you will be deported. Who? Not the school since they would be in trouble as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalorymetr Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) Well, it depends on who they pay and how much. If its a government school, rules might not apply to them, and a farang surely will be prosecuted. Edited June 20, 2021 by Kalorymetr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 4:33 PM, dmarc028 said: It's been over a year at this school, Probably they wonder why you are still there. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Only you can decide what is the right thing to do and if you can sleep soundly at night. What goes around comes around. Why wouldn't they pay you if you give notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiam110 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Neeranam said: Why wouldn't they pay you if you give notice? For the same reason they haven't honored their promise of a work permit, no integrity. Get the money and go, and sleep very soundly at night ???? add a chang or two if it helps Edited June 21, 2021 by asiam110 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 4:33 PM, dmarc028 said: Thanks everyone. It's been over a year at this school, and I've got my degree and transcripts all available. Anyways, I've concluded it seems best to get my pay and then verbally tell them this is my last day. Feel bad for leaving like this but it is what it is. What reason do they give for not giving your work permit? Do your colleagues have work permits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/20/2021 at 8:45 PM, Kalorymetr said: Well, it depends on who they pay and how much. If its a government school, rules might not apply to them, and a farang surely will be prosecuted. It's got nothing to do with skin colour! <deleted>, man up and tell them you've got a new job and are giving them notice. If for some weird reason they say you must give 1 month notice, then give it. The new school will wait, if they are worth working for. Honesty is the best policy, trust me I worked in Thai schools for 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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