Pump and Filter for pool recimmendation

[JAN]

My pool builder walked away from the job, so I am stuck with a partial completed pool. That’s life!

Can somebody please inform me what size pump and filter I am supposed to get? And any other equipment, thinking about control box, that I would need to complete the job?

I am including a drawing herewith. The pool is 3 x 7 x 1.30 m; 28 cubic meters. The run from skimmer to pump will be about 20 meters. Run to pool outlets and floor drain about 10 meters. I have 3 pipes, 2 being 2” and one being 1.5”. Not sure yet what does what:)

I have been looking at the Emaux equipment and aiming to go for that as it is not too expensive and seems to have a decent reputation. Not sure if separate pump and filter is better, as I see they do a combination filter & pump?

I am located in Chiang Mai and if any of you people have any advice as what to do and/or how to proceed, please let me know. Thanks!

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[millymoopoo]

23 hours ago, JAN said:

what size pump and filter I am supposed to get?

Determine how many gallons you need to pump per hour to clean all the water in your pool in eight hours. Divide the gallons of water your pool holds (answer from step 1) by eight. Using the example number of gallons previously given, this equation would look as follows: 24,000 gallons ÷ 8 hours = 3,000.

This link may be helpful.........

https://blog.royalswimmingpools.com/blog/what-horse-power-pump-should-i-get-for-my-pool

Or just google "what size pump do I need for my pool".

[Bagwain]

Contact John from Siam Pools C/Mai

He will set you with right advice.

 

[Mr Wong]

I recently finished building an 8m x 4m x 1.2m fully tiled concrete pool. I did all the work myself including excavation by hand (and I am 66). It only took me one month to build and cost 60,000 baht all up including pump house, filter and accessories. The pump, filter and in line chlorinator all came from Global house and work like magic. I only need to run run the pump an hour or so each day for a pristine clear pool. The pump is 1 horse power and the filter is 20 inch. Bottom drains are a thing of the past but seeing you have one already plumbed you may as well use it . . . just put a vlave on it and then join it to the suction line . . . that way you can crack the valve open a little and draw say 20% from bottom of pool and 80% via skimmer.

[perconrad]

I have a pool with 32 m3. I had people work the hard stuff, but I did the plumbing and electrical work myself.

 

I bought almost all the equipment for installation at SwimmingPoolsThailand 

https://swimmingpoolsthailand.com/en/ OK prices and good service. On the homepage you can get a lot of information of how to do when installing and use a swimmingpool and the english speaking staff is helpsum if you have some questions.

 

I chose the Emaux 0,75 HK combo, so not to run the pump so many hours and to fit with the saltchlorinator, but you can do with the 0,5 HK combo and I use Zellbrite filter medium.

 

With a saltchlorinator installed there is not much maintenance and you do not have to work with chlorine. I run my pump 3 hours a day and when the pool is used and I have Emaux SSC25-T salt water chlorinator, but now they have a cheaper model too, the Emaux SSCmini chlorinator.

 

Do you not have a pipe to use for vacuum the pool? You need to vacuum a couple a times a week.

And an overflow pipe, so the water don't flow over the top of the pool when raining, my overflow is connected to the skimmer box since the skimmer don't work if the water level is higher than the top intake of the skimmer. But you can have it another place too.

 

You need 3 valves before the pump intake, 1 from the skimmer, 1 from bottom drain and 1 for the vacuum

 

When you have skimmer it is good to have a bottom drain, so you can draw water from both the skimmer and bottom if the skimmer filter get full or the water level comes under the skimmer intake from evaporation.

 

I have sunshade over 3/4 of the pool, so the water temperature don't get to high, now it's 29 to 30 deg. in the cooler season I remove the sunshade or the water temp becomes to cold for my liking. I live in Sisaket province.

[Susco]

3 hours ago, Mr Wong said:

I recently finished building an 8m x 4m x 1.2m fully tiled concrete pool. I did all the work myself including excavation by hand (and I am 66). It only took me one month to build and cost 60,000 baht all up including pump house, filter and accessories. The pump, filter and in line chlorinator all came from Global house and work like magic.

 

Couldn't you throw in a jacuzzi and waterfall as well for that 60K all in?

 

Are that 100 Baht a sqm kitchen tiles or floor tiles?

 

3 hours ago, Mr Wong said:

I only need to run run the pump an hour or so each day for a pristine clear pool.

 

Clearly you have a wealth of no idea about what you are doing. I expect you gonna be a frequent topic starter in the forum, starting with in about a week or 3 asking why your pool is greener than your lawn.

[Mr Wong]

I am 66 and all my life my houses have had a swimming pool, 4 of which I built myself so I think it is fair to say that I have some experience. The amount of time one needs to run the filter is dependant on the load . . . if one has every kid in the neighbourhood in the pool one would need to run the pump a lot longer. Also if one is using a salt chlorinator one has to run the pump longer for it to make sufficient chlorine. I am running an inline chlorine tablet dispenser which I have turned up to maximum in order to get as much chlorine in the pool in the shortest time. My previous house in Chiangmai had an existing pool built by specialist pool compamy . . . I can say without a doubt that the pools that I have built myself are far superior. No, I did not use so called kitchen wall tiles . . . I used 8" × 8" floor tiles . . . tiles are so cheap in Thailand that they are cheaper than using pool paint. The steel work used is DB12 at 300 centres, I dropped 6 cubic metres concrete on the floor and sandwiched 6" of concrete between a double wall of blocks which acted as formwork. Doing the work myself saved heaps . . . but the main reason I like to build things myself is that I enjoy building. Here is a photo of a 12m x 5m x 1.5m pool I made all by myself and lined with natural stone.

[khunPer]

On 6/20/2021 at 4:35 AM, JAN said:

I have been looking at the Emaux equipment and aiming to go for that as it is not too expensive and seems to have a decent reputation. Not sure if separate pump and filter is better, as I see they do a combination filter & pump?

I have Emaux, the set with the smallest circulation pump and sand filter, but my "pool" is just a big Jacuzzi; however working exactly like a real pool. It has worked very well for me, but you might need a bigger pump and filter size for 28 cubic meter, than the smallest available set.

 

A control box you should be able to find as pre-made unit, including a so-called phase-control to protect the pump from under/over voltage.

 

Don't expect an Emaux circulation pump to last for more than five years lifetime, so make sure it's installed, so it's easy to change. When easy access it's a small job, and the price of the pump is affordable.

 

My next door neighbor built his house and pool at same time as me, and he got an expensive Australian brand name pump instead of a cheap Chinese make like Emaux, their expensive pump died after 1½ year. I can buy four Emaux pumps for the same price as his brand name pump...????

 

PS: My two big Emaux Jacuzzi-pumps however lasts and live on their 11th year now, but they are not running as much as a circulation pump, I've changed it twice so far, so is working hard on killing the third pump now...????

 

Edited June 21, 2021 by khunPer

[Bagwain]

6 hours ago, Mr Wong said:

I recently finished building an 8m x 4m x 1.2m fully tiled concrete pool. I did all the work myself including excavation by hand (and I am 66). It only took me one month to build and cost 60,000 baht all up including pump house, filter and accessories. The pump, filter and in line chlorinator all came from Global house and work like magic. I only need to run run the pump an hour or so each day for a pristine clear pool. The pump is 1 horse power and the filter is 20 inch. Bottom drains are a thing of the past but seeing you have one already plumbed you may as well use it . . . just put a vlave on it and then join it to the suction line . . . that way you can crack the valve open a little and draw say 20% from bottom of pool and 80% via skimmer.

What planet you on! I call absolute B/S!!! 

[Susco]

2 hours ago, Mr Wong said:

 Here is a photo of a 12m x 5m x 1.5m pool I made all by myself and lined with natural stone.

 

If you built that pool, which even a blind man can see is about double of 12 meter long, why it has the name of an Australian designer attached to it.

 

You are really full of it, isn't it?

[Saanim]

When driving from Airport intersection direction up to Hang Dong, after some 200m passing a gas pump there is a large pump shop (water tanks shown). The owner speaks English having a great choice for reasonable prices, much lower than the same thing in a pool special shop. 

 

I bought from him this pump years ago for 8,000 Baht (for 60cbm pool) beside other things. Flexible hose for vacuuming, holding over 7 years, being stored exposed on sunshine, whilst from other shops always just 4 - 6 months and cracks.

[Saanim]

Actually, the same or similar pump you can get in Global House

[Mr Wong]

I built that pool in Picton, NSW, Australia in 1991. The name in the bottom right is the agent, Jarrod Smith First National Real Estate of Argyle St. Picton, who sold the house for me in 2012.

I not only built the pool on my own but also the 8000 square foot house on my own. I have built quite a few high end houses, several swimming pools.and even a full size synthetic grass tennis court.

The following picture is of the commercially built swimming pool that was in my previous house in Chiang mai . . . which was a terrible design and high maintainance.

 

 

[Saanim]

On 6/21/2021 at 10:34 AM, Mr Wong said:

I recently finished building an 8m x 4m x 1.2m fully tiled concrete pool. I did all the work myself including excavation by hand (and I am 66). It only took me one month to build and cost 60,000 baht all up including pump house, filter and accessories. The pump, filter and in line chlorinator all came from Global house and work like magic. I only need to run run the pump an hour or so each day for a pristine clear pool. The pump is 1 horse power and the filter is 20 inch. Bottom drains are a thing of the past but seeing you have one already plumbed you may as well use it . . . just put a vlave on it and then join it to the suction line . . . that way you can crack the valve open a little and draw say 20% from bottom of pool and 80% via skimmer.

Yes, that's OK. If DIY, you can do it for 10% of the price of the "professionals".

But why you did not make it with overflow, at least one side? Better for swimming (no waves), better for cleaning the leaves on water, with less energy for pumping.  

 

Why "Bottom drains are a thing of the past"? I run it 50/50 with OF. It reduces the dust dropping onto floor.  The dust contained in the lower water layers will not be keen to get up to the skimmer (whatever sucking power it has), better getting sucked at the floor.

 

Also good when brushing walls and the bottom, then open fully the bottom. 

 

And when emptying... even if it's not needed every year...