Popular Post webfact Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Picture: Daily News Thai media Daily News reported from Government House yesterday where a cabinet video-conference meeting chaired by PM Prayut Chan-o-cha took place. In the light of decisions to re-open the country to the Phuket Sandbox scheme on July 1st - and subsequent opening of three islands in Surat Thani - the PM accepted that the economy in Thailand was in a mess. It was therefore necessary to re-open the country before it was completely ruined. In order to do this he admitted that some risks must be taken. He based his comments on the state of the economy on his Digital Economy and Science ministry analysis. He said that all his ministries were pulling together. In comments related to possible amendments to the constitution he ruled out the possibility of a referendum. He said that amendments must be reasonable. The issue is being debated today and tomorrow. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-06-23 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 1 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, webfact said: the PM accepted that the economy in Thailand was in a mess. It was therefore necessary to re-open the country before it was completely ruined. In order to do this he admitted that some risks must be taken. He based his comments on the state of the economy on his Digital Economy and Science ministry analysis. You mean he did not look into the magic mirror or ask his fortune teller before he decided Thailand was a mess. A mess made because of his inaction in obtaining vaccines firstly instead of waiting for them to be produced in-house. Amazing Thailand, where Risks must be taken yet they were never taken before...... 59 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, webfact said: In order to do this he admitted that some risks must be taken. Says the fully vaccinated Government ! 5 minutes ago, webfact said: the PM accepted that the economy in Thailand was in a mess. Due to your inability to organise a vaccination programme ! Edited June 23, 2021 by Thaiwrath 61 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 "Thailand must open to foreign tourism and accept some risk: PM" That's fine coming from someone who jumped the queue and has been vaccinated. I wonder what the other 50+ million people think? 42 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 It must, it must, the consequences be damned! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poskat Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 ah, the zero tolerance to covid cases wall begins to crack about time that the government realizes that they need to learn how to live with covid and that lockdowns/business closures wont cut it 27 5 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post asiaexpat Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 How many foreigners will be willing to vacation in a pandemic hot spot? y Thai kids do not even want to come back for a visit yet. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Not much risk in rigged elections and failing that the ability to put tanks in the street. 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, webfact said: the PM accepted that the economy in Thailand was in a mess. "opening" Phuket won't make any difference, nobody will come anyway. 47 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, asiaexpat said: How many foreigners will be willing to vacation in a pandemic hot spot? y Thai kids do not even want to come back for a visit yet. My Mrs cancelled a short drive to Sri Racha yesterday to visit someone, due to new infections and some security being implemented.... pleasing to see some people taking this seriously. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DirtyHarry55 Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Fully agree once the country is fully vaccinated but it hasn't far from it! They don't care they've all been fully vaccinated and actually need Covid19 to keep "State Of Emergency" in place to prevent any unwanted street protests at least to the next election. 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DirtyHarry55 Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: "opening" Phuket won't make any difference, nobody will come anyway. The Chinese will probably come they won't mind wearing those GPS wristband trackers like prisoners they're used to it. In fact why not put em in Shackles whilst ya at it. Can't see many Farang digging it though. Edited June 23, 2021 by DirtyHarry55 11 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, webfact said: completely ruined. I thought that was his and Anutins goal, since they decided to delay the vaccine program. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Cipher Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Heck yeah! Let's do it. ???? Can't spend your whole life hiding. Well, you could I guess, but what kind of life would that be? 5 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Well, the risk aspect I can at least understand. It’s a gamble that vaccines will arrive in time to stop an India type situation developing, or at least something a lot worse than Thailand has now. Personally I think it’s a big risk, but it’s one he is prepared to take on behalf of the country. what I don’t understand is the reward side of the equation. There seems to be a suggestion that tourism will be the savior of the country if only the country opens. But to fulfill that prophecy, it will require large numbers of tourists to come and spend, and spend big. Given the uncertainties that exist outside Thailand, plus those inside, I really can’t see how tourism could possibly be a big enough contributor to literally save the Thai economy. I also feel that it’s not so much a question of upside if the tourism thing works and no downside if it doesn’t, because Thai’s will be no worse off anyway. Loosening restrictions to facilitate tourists may lead to more covid case and that threatens not just the tourist industry but also Thailand’s manufacturing industry. Closed factories don’t produce goods. all in all, to me it looks like quite a lot of risk for not a lot of reward. But, if there is tacit acceptance from the authorities that they can’t control the virus anyway, then I suppose a few vaccinated tourists aren’t going to make much difference. It’s not the tourist themselves that are the biggest Covid risk, more the changed behavior patterns from Thai’s who see tourists indulging in unsafe Covid behavior and follow suit. it’s going to be interesting to see it play out in real time in front of our eyes. 14 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Golden Triangle Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Cipher said: Heck yeah! Let's do it. ???? Can't spend your whole life hiding. Well, you could I guess, but what kind of life would that be? A living breathing one, instead of a slow horrible death probably alone in a strange place with no family or friends by your bedside as you fight for every gasp and die a lot earlier than you should. I'll be quite happy sipping a glass of red wine watching a movie in the evening thanks. 17 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jvs Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Desperation is a very poor aid to decision making. I posted this somewhere else yesterday,seems it makes sense to me but this is Thailand. 27 minutes ago, webfact said: It was therefore necessary to re-open the country before it was completely ruined. Re-open the country may just cause the country to be ruined! Only way out is vaccination! 24/7 and all over the country. Rotbenz888 said nobody will come anyway,probably true. @Dirtyharry 555,i believe the average Chinese is not allowed out of the country and only can holiday in their own country until further notice. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enzian Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 "He said that all his ministries were pulling together." Yeah, in a big circle. Oh, I forgot, they have pretties for that. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phuketshrew Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Pre covid-19 I seem to remember reading that Thailand's economy was not dependent upon the tourist dollar. What seems to have changed? 26 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spacex Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said: A living breathing one, instead of a slow horrible death probably alone in a strange place with no family or friends by your bedside as you fight for every gasp and die a lot earlier than you should. I'll be quite happy sipping a glass of red wine watching a movie in the evening thanks. If you are in the unhealthiest 0.15% of the population, you are correct be worried. Better get yourself healthier. "Conclusions: All systematic evaluations of seroprevalence data converge that SARS-CoV-2 infection is widely spread globally. Acknowledging residual uncertainties, the available evidence suggests average global IFR of ~0.15% and ~1.5-2.0 billion infections by February 2021. That's 15 out of 10,000 ifr. Better get healthy or keep hiding! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33768536/ 6 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said: The Chinese will probably come they won't mind wearing those GPS wristband trackers like prisoners they're used to it. Can't see many Farang digging it though. Didn't I read a post elsewhere that China is restricting overseas travel until 2022? The Chinese are quick to avoid a place when negative sentiment is generated, like a boat accident or 'Flight of the Gibbon' incident. I am intrigued to know where are these risk adverse Phuket tourists will hail from.... Bangkok? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said: Pre covid-19 I seem to remember reading that Thailand's economy was not dependent upon the tourist dollar. What seems to have changed? Reality. To be fair, the manufacturing is still doing relatively ok, but this is not feeding the majority of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 51 peopled died yesterday. As I have previously posted he is a general. When armed forces go to battle acceptable losses i.e. deaths and injuries, are factored in. The guy is mad. It was his doing that no circuit breaker lockdowns have been imposed and not signing up to COVAX but rely on the Chinese SinoVac and home made AZ. He said he will take total control and we see on a daily basis how he's going. Edited June 23, 2021 by dinsdale 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Thailand must open to foreign tourism and accept some risk: PM Sez the guy who received the first dose of AZ in Thailand, and a second does at 10 weeks (I think). I'll assume the same risk, and I'll have what he had. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Cipher Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Quote A living breathing one, instead of a slow horrible death probably alone in a strange place with no family or friends by your bedside as you fight for every gasp and die a lot earlier than you should. The chances of this happening are just down to math. Either a person is willing to courageously take the odds of a ~99% chance of surviving the pandemic or they aren't. And those that aren't willing to assume even that amount of risk can hide away as much as possible if they want to. That's ok. But asking everyone else to accommodate that fear for a potentially indefinite amount of time is unreasonable. Any of us could wake up any day and die for any reason. It's a game of probabilities. And one of the finest arts of life is managing the risk tradeoffs inherent to living. Having now spent a bit of time on Thai Visa, one of the most surprising things to me is how so many of you have lived for so long and yet understand so little about life. If Thailand can't/won't institute a full lockdown, then this is the right way to go. Edited June 23, 2021 by The Cipher 16 1 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 51 minutes ago, webfact said: It was therefore necessary to re-open the country before it was completely ruined. Yes re open the country before it is completely ruined by Prayut and cronies. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WineOh Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, webfact said: It was therefore necessary to re-open the country before it was completely ruined for the first time ever I am in total agreement with uncle Tu. Life has to go on. People are desperate, they need to make money. People with money need to live their lives. I want to have a glass of red in a bar with my evening meal, is that so much to ask? I want to watch the sunset with a cocktail on the terrace, why am I being denied this??? These restrictions have gone on for too long. It's time to open up and let life carry on as before. Keep social distancing, always wear a mask when outside and do not talk to strangers up close. Follow these 3 simple rules and you will be OK! Edited June 23, 2021 by WineOh 7 1 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, colinneil said: Yes re open the country before it is completely ruined by Prayut and cronies. ???? Yes, the regime told us they needed twenty-years, so fourteen more before it is completely ruined. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, WineOh said: for the first time ever I am in total agreement with uncle Tu. Life has to go on. People are desperate, they need to make money. People with money need to live their lives. I want to have a glass of red in a bar with my evening meal, is that so much to ask? I want to watch the sunset with a cocktail on the terrace, why am I being denied this??? These restrictions have gone on for too long. It's time to open up and let life carry on as before. Keep social distancing, always wear a mask when outside and do not talk to strangers up close. Follow these 3 simple rules and you will be OK! And what happens if it causes a massive outbreak with deaths increasing in a system that now has no critical care beds left for serious covid cases. It's always a balancing act but if it goes pear shaped then the gamble fails and the economy will be in even worse shape. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 I forgot they must open to foreign tourism, yet the schools will remain shut or those that have opened will be closed as cases are found. Kind of an oxymoron. However, when it comes to money the good PM knows best. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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