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At any rate, I checked out the Ji-Net site.

http://www.ji-net.com/zone/DSL_Promotion.asp

What is it saying about TRUE and TOT?

They are saying the deal is for TOT or True lines only (no TT&T..)

/SM

That's what I thought. Of course, I have a TT&T line. The fun continues in the hub of SE Asia.

They have (or had) a promotion for TT&T lines but it was 3500BT/Month for 256/128

I have yet to find both cheap and good lines .. I will Use KSC again on my next project and I will have a second line with Ji-net as a back-up. Internet directly from TOT or TT&T isn't reliable and CSloxinfo are no better than KSC but they charge nearly twice as much.

/SM

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At any rate, I checked out the Ji-Net site.

http://www.ji-net.com/zone/DSL_Promotion.asp

What is it saying about TRUE and TOT?

They are saying the deal is for TOT or True lines only (no TT&T..)

/SM

That's what I thought. Of course, I have a TT&T line. The fun continues in the hub of SE Asia.

They have (or had) a promotion for TT&T lines but it was 3500BT/Month for 256/128

I have yet to find both cheap and good lines .. I will Use KSC again on my next project and I will have a second line with Ji-net as a back-up. Internet directly from TOT or TT&T isn't reliable and CSloxinfo are no better than KSC but they charge nearly twice as much.

/SM

That's my whole dimemma. TSpeed is actually performing quite well for me for only 1000 baht a month. But apparently its going to be a bitch to try to get it to work with Vonage. So do I pay three times as much for a slower connection that will allow me to use Vonage? I don't know. I do know that I'm going to TT&T's office tomorrow and I'm not leaving til I get all the information I've been asking for by e-mail all week. Eventually this will be settled.

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That's my whole dimemma. TSpeed is actually performing quite well for me for only 1000 baht a month. But apparently its going to be a bitch to try to get it to work with Vonage. So do I pay three times as much for a slower connection that will allow me to use Vonage? I don't know. I do know that I'm going to TT&T's office tomorrow and I'm not leaving til I get all the information I've been asking for by e-mail all week. Eventually this will be settled.

Out of curiosity how is your home network setup? are you using a ethernet DSL router/modem or a USB DSL Router/modem? where is your Vonage Telephony device hooked in?

/SM

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That's my whole dimemma. TSpeed is actually performing quite well for me for only 1000 baht a month. But apparently its going to be a bitch to try to get it to work with Vonage. So do I pay three times as much for a slower connection that will allow me to use Vonage? I don't know. I do know that I'm going to TT&T's office tomorrow and I'm not leaving til I get all the information I've been asking for by e-mail all week. Eventually this will be settled.

Out of curiosity how is your home network setup? are you using a ethernet DSL router/modem or a USB DSL Router/modem? where is your Vonage Telephony device hooked in?

/SM

Ethernet ADSL router.

ADSL phone line comes into router.

Ethernet port from router goes into WAN port of Motorolla device from Vonage.

PC port of Motorolla device connects to computer.

Phone connects to phone port on Motorolla device. And then you pick up the phone and hear a US dial tone.

But I can never even get thw Motorolla device to recognize the router...

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Ethernet ADSL router.

ADSL phone line comes into router.

Ethernet port from router goes into WAN port of Motorolla device from Vonage.

PC port of Motorolla device connects to computer.

Phone connects to phone port on Motorolla device. And then you pick up the phone and hear a US dial tone.

But I can never even get thw Motorolla device to recognize the router...

Does your PC also hook directly to your DSL router by way of ethernet or Does the Motorola device act as a passthrough?

Can you Manual assign the Motorola device an IP address ?

Aslo I am wondering if you might need to set-up Port forwarding on your router.

/SM

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I probably will end up trying it. I'm quite happy to sacrifice my time and money for the good of those who dare not venture where I boldly go.

that's why we're all cheering you on ...

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Ethernet ADSL router.

ADSL phone line comes into router.

Ethernet port from router goes into WAN port of Motorolla device from Vonage.

PC port of Motorolla device connects to computer.

Phone connects to phone port on Motorolla device. And then you pick up the phone and hear a US dial tone.

But I can never even get thw Motorolla device to recognize the router...

Does your PC also hook directly to your DSL router by way of ethernet or Does the Motorola device act as a passthrough?

Can you Manual assign the Motorola device an IP address ?

Aslo I am wondering if you might need to set-up Port forwarding on your router.

/SM

Motorolla device acts as a passthrough.

Not quite sure I understand the IP address question. The M device has its own IP address that can't be changed.

Port forwarding has been mentioned, but there's no options for it when I look at the modem's page. And I'm not a computer person.

Anyway, TT&T says they don't think it will work because CAT issues them with private IP addresses. CAT doesn't respond to my e-mails and apparently doesn't respond to TT&T either, although I don't understand why they can't just call CAT and have the answer we need in about 5 minutes. TT&T told me I should go to their competitors.

Also said to come test it at their office which is going to solve nothing.

Vonage says it will work with private IP addresses if I can get the

IP address

Aubnet Mask

Default Gateway

DNS Servers

and make sure these UDP ports are open

5060-5063SIP

TFTP 69

10,000 to 20,000

But trying to get CAT or TT&T to acknowledge and assist in this matter is amounting to much frustration. CAT doesn't bother to reply and TT&T says they can't do anything as CAT doesn't respond to them, as if that's supposed to make things better...

We all have to admit, some things are just better in the West. There's no way around the fact.

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I think Maybe TT&T doesn't understand what the term "Private IP address" means.

I don't think they can be providing you with one through dsl .. Your router however is providing you with a Private IP (probably 192.168.x.x) and this is why you may need to set up port forwarding.

I guess an easy way to find out would be to go into your DSL routers setup and look for the external IP address.

I think When Vonage says that it will work with a private address they mean a private Address from Your network (Your side of The DSL Router).

I have to admit though this Shared Bandwidth DSL thing that TT&T has is a bit strange to me.

/SM

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Went to TT&T head office. They used a loxinfo username and password and Vonage was working within 1 minute. Since I was there, they had to call CAT. CAT says it won't unblock the neccessary ports as they'd prefer I pay them when I want to make int. calls. I didn't bother trying to explain customer service and how I am a customer of TT&T, not CAT etc. etc. On top of that, TSpeed doesn't offer real IP addresses so it probably wouldn't work anyway.

So I went to Loxinfo. I think they've gone a little crazy over there. They have a new 'promotion' for 1500 baht. 256/128 unlimited domestic/international, BUT you share with 50 people. I pointed out that that would mean that if everyone was on the internet, your high speed ADSL would be giving you 5k. WOW! Even if ten people were using their ADSL, you'd get an amazing 25k. When I pointed this out, they pretty much conceeded that it is useless for international and I should really pay 10,000 baht a month if I need a steady and reliable 256k connection. Whatever.

I'll check KSC tomorrow.

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Somethings are better in the West and some in the East.

What is the problem with dial up?

Gets there in the end and whats the hurry....Chill you say??

ct

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I have tried about all of the ISPs in thailand and have found none that have a steady internet connection without dropoffs, IP phone is useless sometimes and good others,no matter which IP you use ,they all seem to run the same net hookup and it is not a dependable connection.. It was better a few years ago than it is now,seems like Thaksin's rise to power has had something to do with it,but can't figure why.

Altho I can't get a line for DSL and I have tried satellite but could see no advantage as far as the net connection dependability was concerned.

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Somethings are better in the West and some in the East.

What is the problem with dial up?

Gets there in the end and whats the hurry....Chill you say??

ct

www.vonage.com

Minimum 90k needed all the time.

Also, much of what the internet is becoming is based on broadband connections. If all you do is send e-mail, dial up is fine, but there's a lot more the internet can do if you have access to true high speed connections.

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I have tried about all of the ISPs in thailand and have found none that have a steady internet connection without dropoffs, IP phone is useless sometimes and good others,no matter which IP you use ,they all seem to run the same net hookup and it is not a dependable connection.. It was better a few years ago than it is now,seems like Thaksin's rise to power has had something to do with it,but can't figure why.

Altho I can't get a line for DSL and I have tried satellite but could see no advantage as far as the net connection dependability was concerned.

I would have thought that it would be Thaksin who would finally bring real high spped internet to the major cities in Thailand. I guess its kind of starting with TSpeed, but they have a long, long way to go.

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