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JINet works great. 2,500 month. 100k to 200k most of the time. Downloads seem to be capped at 27 kB/sec.

Thanks ChiangMaiThai.

Wouldn't that be Uploads capped at 27? Download should be faster?

Not too sure I understand the difference between a fixed and real IP address. Is a 'real' address fixed for the session???

Downloads don't seem to make it past 27kB/sec. Sometimes it jumps up to 35 or 40 briefly so I guess its not capped. Uploads seem to be around 15-20. remember its slower than TSpeed. Connection speed is usually 100-300 at the McAfee site.

The fixed/real IP address issue is not completely clear to me. Maybe these guys can help http://www.no-ip.com/

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Hi CMT, how is the new SKYPE ver 1.0 that has just come out, have you tried that yet, and if so how does it compare?

I just downloaded it. I haven't talked in a real conversation yet, but I called and left a message on my answering machine. Its nearly 100% clear. A couple points where my voice cut out very briefly. But the real question is whether or not there is a delay. The last version was clear, but there was a 2 or 3 second delay on my calls to America, which made it an interesting toy, but that's it.

I'll try it when people wake up in the states and I'll post the results.

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I have a TOT line and visited their web site today to find out what the latest was re the ADSL. I was asked to type in a box my phone no. and if it came back in the green I was ok for the promotion, if it came back in the red I was not. My no. was in the red, so I guess I'm right out of luck at the moment. The URL below:

http://www.tot.co.th/en/news/totnews_detail.php?news_id=211

cm boy

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OK, I've taken the plunge, put in a new TT&T line with Ji-Net 512/256 ADSL shared with 6 @ B6k pm. Very pleased with 188 to 510kps. 510kps was an actual download at 6am, 188 was at 6pm. Used the Macafee speedometer.

It took three working days from ordering.

I've also installed Microsoft Service Pack 2. No problems so far.

I've intalled SKYPE. I'm bamboozled as their banks won't accept any of our (nominally accepted) credit cards. So we'll have to wait for our friends to install and do it pc2pc.

Anyone tried RhinoBell? Though 2.5 cents / min (SKYPE is 83% of this at today's exchange rates), Rhinobell is probably cheaper on pc2telephone, as

1) they charge by the second, and

2) there's no mention of your account expiring. SKYPE accounts expire after 180 days unless topped up, so you can lose your money.

To transfer the $5 to get going withRhinobell, you've actually got to send a copy of your passport! (or do a bank transfer @ $20 per transfer)

I understand Vonage is basically for North American useage. Our main interests are in phoning UK and Oz.

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I will be living moving to Chiang Mai at Christmas and would go crazy without my high-speed internet. However I will not be living in the city. I will be in a village a few miles outside of Sarapee. Will any of the providers you talk about in this thread be able to offer a connection that far from the city? If not is there any alternatives, or will it have to be a normal dial-up?

Thanks Chris

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Ji-net said that it is available in SOME parts of the town. Tell them the phone number and they can advise.

The post above says a similar thing but the link only appears to want to accept 02 (Bangkok) numbers?

ADSL IS deifinitely in CM and if it is that important to you then suggest you finfd a house to live in that has it.

Please do not find one in an area where not available and then complain after :o

There are a lot of posts further up where names are given. You can call them all to check?

CT

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We tried the TOT website, which gave us the OK green light for ADSL. But when it came to the crunch, it wasn't available.

We are on the 'edge' for TT&T in relation to CM at least, only 4km NW of com Plaza.

We checked all this out before renting, since it was important to us too.

The rental agent was terrifically helpful, only partly because the rental depended on ADSL availability.

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Hi,

For the usual day-to-day Internet browsing and downloading I have a Hi-Net account which I generally get 560 kbit/sec (70 kbyte/sec) off. Its cheap at only 1,069 baht a month including VAT.

For work, testing etc. I use CSLoxInfo's ECO-TTT 256/128 kbit page which costs 1,610.00 baht a month including VAT. It does NOT provide a static IP address but it does provide a legitmate public routed IP unlike Hi-Net (T-Speed).

Hi-Net is certainly faster but not as stable as ECO-TTT and Hi-Net has a number of restrictions in place including:

- Private IP assignments in the 172.16.0.0 space.

- Block IPSec/L2TP based VPN's

- Block SIP, H.323 and other VoIP Internet phone protocols

- Force users through their Application and Content Networking System Software (e.g. http://202.47.247.146)

- Due to the private IP assignments ICMP traffic is blocked/filtered.

Hi-Net's infrastructure is A grade and is comprised of high-end Cisco equitpment and for those of us in Chiang Mai, we end up on an OC3 (155 mbit optical carrier) direct to Bangkok. This, plus the forced cache and restrictions on protocols used helps keep the system fairly unsaturated. I have noticed down time in the last couple days BUT I've been advised that major upgrades are being done on several major DSLAM's in and around Chiang Mai.

ECO-TTT links directly into the CSLoxInfo backbone via the local CNX infrastructure (and with this come the usual bottlenecks) BUT there are currently no restrictions on protocol use and no forced proxy.

Lastly, the ECO-TTT user ratio is 10:1 where as the Hi-Net ratio is 50:1. If you take some time to calculate this out:

>> ECO-TTT = 256 kbit (32 kbyte), 10:1 = 25.6 kbit (3.2 kbyte) guaranteed to a user.

>> Hi-Net = 2048 kbit (256 kbyte), 50:1 = 40.96 kbit (5.12 kbyte) guaranteed to a user.

Of course, these calculations are EXTREMELY flexable as its very unlikely that all 10:1 or 50:1 users will be on at a given time and/or that they will ALL be saturating the link.

I am quite impressed with TT&T (who support both the ECO-TTT and Hi-Net systems). Their technical support is great and their infrastructure impressive.

TOT, on the other hand, have a (dare I say) terrible technical support and no one at their Airport Plaza or Kad Suan Kaew office seems to have any idea whats happening with anything.

Hope this info is helpful...

m.

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A couple other things...

(1) Up-to-date information on ADSL options and promotions in Thailand can be found at www.adslthailand.com.

(2) For those of you using Hi-Net, you can use VCI/33 or VCI/66. TT&T is currently supporting Hi-Net connections on both Virtual Channel Identifiers to their ATM backbone. I have been told that VCI/33 use will be disabled in the next two weeks.

(3) I hear a lot of people recommend and use the McAfee bandwidth test but I'd also like to recommend:

>> http://www.beelinebandwidthtest.com

>> http://www.md3v.com/premeter.php

Both of the above testers are far simpler than McAfee's and generally give more realistic results.

m.

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I am actually movinh to CM next year with my family and renting a place,Is it best to get a Dial up or a Cable system?I have just bought myself a new Sony Vaio with Wireless G connnection,Would sort of problems do you think i could or would have for accesssing the net?

Ps Just did a check and i am on 729 kbs in the UK.Looks like i am going to be a little out of pocket or dissappointed.

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We've only been here a month, but my enquiries suggested AsiaNet were the only people in CM doing cable.

The gentleman in the office speaks good English, though I don't have his E-mail address.

He drew the area covered by cable onto a map for me.

The area on the east is bounded by the Ping River.

On the South by the Superhighway.

To the west it starts in the south following the Ring Road, then goes west along Suthep Road to include part of CMU, going back to the Superhighway at about the level of Soi 17.

To the North is a bit vague. It cuts across from the Superhighway where it crosses Huay Kaew Rd, to Chang Phuak Rd, then followsRattanakosin Rd to the bridge.

He also said the network was extending quite quickly, and, in particular to the North west.

Their ADSL service is not quite up & running yet. It's was still being tested last week.

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I've heard very mixed things about the cable service here in CM. I have seen a lot of cable infrastructure being installed ... it will be interesting to see where things are in 6 months.

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Thanks WP,Looks like things might be a lot different for me in a years time well maybe lol.

Would dial be an option for me?

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I understand Vonage is basically for North American useage. Our main interests are in phoning UK and Oz.

http://www.vonage.com/intrates.php

it is a better deal for North American users, but still only 3cents and 4cents a minute to landlines in Oz and UK and its perfect sound quality. No PC needed.

I'm surprised the UK doesn't have a Vonage copycat yet.

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(3) I hear a lot of people recommend and use the McAfee bandwidth test but I'd also like to recommend:

>> http://www.beelinebandwidthtest.com

>> http://www.md3v.com/premeter.php

http://www.beelinebandwidthtest.com/top/

How do you get a 5161K/s connection???? Makes us all here in Chiang Mai with our 'high speed DSL' look a little pathetic.

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