falong Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 why does everyone use "farang" to me this should sound like fa - rang as in rang you last night. What my ears hear when i hear i.e "du falong" is "falong" not "farang" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiflyer1 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 ฝรั่ง..........Farang.....รั.........the bottom letter here is lor-luer (our letter r) and the top (my-hahn-a-gaht) gives the "a" sound rather like a vowel in english affects the letter preceding it..........so when put together you have "ra " ง ngor-ngoo is translated as ng......as in "ring" but without the "ri"....................ฝ (for-fahn) is also affected by the my-hanh-a-gaht giving the fa sound at the beginning. So it comes out as Farang! Always wondered why your nickname was Farong........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falong Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 ฝรั่ง..........Farang.....รั.........the bottom letter here is lor-luer (our letter r) and the top (my-hahn-a-gaht) gives the "a" sound rather like a vowel in english affects the letter preceding it..........so when put together you have "ra " ง ngor-ngoo is translated as ng......as in "ring" but without the "ri"....................ฝ (for-fahn) is also affected by the my-hanh-a-gaht giving the fa sound at the beginning. So it comes out as Farang! Always wondered why your nickname was Farong........... ya know your're right. I dont know know why I seem to think I am hearing fa-long -Long as in -long time no see when I think about it ....it is really as you say.... fa- lahng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sbk Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Central, Northern and Isaan Thais have difficulty pronouncing the R sound. If you speak with a Southerner you will hear the proper pronunciation. It is ror reua (not lor leua), the correct sound is a rolled r. Farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiflyer1 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 It is ror reua (not lor leua), the correct sound is a rolled r. Farang. I was just seeing if you would spot that delibrate mistake....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 "r" pronounced as "l" is a simpler explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiflyer1 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 "r" pronounced as "l" is a simpler explanation Wouldn't that be lor-ling ล though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simey Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 There is not a lot you can do about what you hear now. There are actually more information pathways going from the brain to the ears than the other way around - what happens is that as you grow up your brain modifies the way your ears respond to the environment you are in. Thais don't confuse R and L sound, they find it very difficult to hear any difference. It's not that they cannot pronounce the two noises, but that they cannot hear the difference between them. Same goes for westerners, a thai can hear the difference between two words that might sound exactly the same to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 No expert- but at least how my tgf represents it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 "r" pronounced as "l" is a simpler explanation Wouldn't that be lor-ling ล though? I thought 'lor-leua ร' was being cleverly succinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoAjarn Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 common uneducated thais use the l the better educated use the r, bit like english in london really, all right or awl rioght Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiflyer1 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I thought 'lor-leua ร' was being cleverly succinct. It was..........but keep that between ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I can handle Thais using 'r' and 'l' (such as farang and falang), depending from which part of Thailand they come from. But my GF tends to do the same thing in English! So she might say 'light' when she means 'right' and 'right' when she means 'light'. As you can imagine, this is rather confusing for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Thais don't confuse R and L sound, they find it very difficult to hear any difference. It's not that they cannot pronounce the two noises, but that they cannot hear the difference between them. Same goes for westerners, a thai can hear the difference between two words that might sound exactly the same to us. Simey, depend on what part of Thailand they are from, my husband is from the South and never has any difficulty distinguishing 'l' from 'r'. He never says light when he means right. He can say 'right' without any difficulty whatsoever and he definitely hears the difference. Now, get him to say any word with a 'V' in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falong Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 Central, Northern and Isaan Thais have difficulty pronouncing the R sound. If you speak with a Southerner you will hear the proper pronunciation. It is ror reua (not lor leua), the correct sound is a rolled r. Farang. Had a friend up north named Larry. We would have a great time asking a thai to say "larry" it would always come out as "rally" ask them to say "rally" and they would say "larry" Try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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