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Maybe not fully sold out to Buddhist world view would be a better description of the man. But since Buddhism embraces the concept of investigating and meditating on what you believe. It must also embrace the idea that someone can choose for themselves what truth is. In that vein, he must have been a very good Buddhist indeed, because he chose his path by what he believed, not just because it was the way it is always done.

I think garro was referring to the fact that he believed a pamphlet of duboius authenticity, rather than his finding a new faith.

Personally I applaud him for casting off traditions that he found weren't working for him for something else that made his spiritual path alive. People who choose their path themselves rather than following that laid out by their environment or their parents follow their path with much more energy and conviction.

While I'm not impressed with some forms of Cristianity, there are others that are definately preferable to the animism that is followed as a sorry excuse for Buddhism around much of Thailand.

In other words better to be a good Christian/Jew/Muslim/Hindu/whatever than a bad Buddhist.

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The same question could be asked: how closely do the teachings of the Lord Buddha compare with the practice of modern Buddhism?

I think it is popular Buddhism that has gone astray rather than "modern" Buddhism. The Thai Forest Tradition is modern Buddhism, but it's about as authentic as you can get. Popular, devotional Buddhism seemed to get going almost from the time of the Buddha's death.

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I'm no scholar of the Pali Canon but the style an much of the wording and many of the references of this pamphlet are very inconsistant with with the scriptures that date back to the Buddhas time.

Definitely. There is only one reference to a future Buddha (Maitreya/Metteyya) in the Pali Canon, in the Cakkavatti-Sihanada Sutta:

The Buddha: "And in that time of the people with an eighty-thousand-year life-span, there will arise in the world a Blessed Lord, an arahant fully enlightened Buddha named Metteyya, endowed with wisdom and conduct, a Well-farer, Knower of the worlds, incomparable Trainer of men to be tamed, Teacher of gods and humans, enlightened and blessed, just as I am now."

There's a lot more about Maitreya in Mahayana sutras, which is where I think this bogus text was adapted from.

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There's a lot more about Maitreya in Mahayana sutras, which is where I think this bogus text was adapted from.

Yes, odds of a genuine lost Mahayana scripture being found in the storeroom of Theravada Chiang Mai Wat in 1954 are...

where's the nearest lottery shop?

Edited by Brucenkhamen

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I think garro was referring to the fact that he believed a pamphlet of duboius authenticity, rather than his finding a new faith.

Personally I applaud him for casting off traditions that he found weren't working for him for something else that made his spiritual path alive. People who choose their path themselves rather than following that laid out by their environment or their parents follow their path with much more energy and conviction.

While I'm not impressed with some forms of Cristianity, there are others that are definately preferable to the animism that is followed as a sorry excuse for Buddhism around much of Thailand.

In other words better to be a good Christian/Jew/Muslim/Hindu/whatever than a bad Buddhist.

I completley agree, especially if you mean being a compassionate and creative asset to your community; And never growing weary in well doing.

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You know fellas I think we're going about this all wrong, we shouldn't try to discredit it rather work out how to use it to our advantage.

If the Buddha prophesied the coming of Jesus then obviously he's a prophet of God, right up there with the likes of Moses and John the Baptist.

So next time a Christian is on your case about following the ways of the devil you can whip out a copy of this pamphlet and provide proof you are following a prophet of God, may work with Muslims too.

Maybe this means we can have enlightenment and salvation too.

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on a side note to turn this around. does anybody believe that stuff where jesus was supposed to be influenced by buddhist teachings? is this just a wild idea off the internet, akin with the OP, or is there any substance to this claim?

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I didn't finish the article...got to about the 5th line and stopped when it mentioned something like "to gain merits, one needs to have money". I realized this is not an article I'd like to spend my time reading.

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on a side note to turn this around. does anybody believe that stuff where jesus was supposed to be influenced by buddhist teachings? is this just a wild idea off the internet, akin with the OP, or is there any substance to this claim?

I don't think so. I just think there so many similarities in the teachings on our behaviour. Doing good and trying to live a good life etc.

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on a side note to turn this around. does anybody believe that stuff where jesus was supposed to be influenced by buddhist teachings? is this just a wild idea off the internet, akin with the OP, or is there any substance to this claim?

I don't think so. I just think there so many similarities in the teachings on our behaviour. Doing good and trying to live a good life etc.

i looked into this a bit further today, while there no archeological evidence linking jesus with buddhism, there were denfitely buddhist missionaries sent west towards greece and egypt from about 250BC by asoka, an indian monarch.

there seem to be alot of books and articles that make the case for this idea, but there does not seem to be any archealogical evidence. however it is certainly very interesting, and i think agreat deal more plausible than the article in the OP.

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on a side note to turn this around. does anybody believe that stuff where jesus was supposed to be influenced by buddhist teachings? is this just a wild idea off the internet, akin with the OP, or is there any substance to this claim?

I don't think so. I just think there so many similarities in the teachings on our behaviour. Doing good and trying to live a good life etc.

i looked into this a bit further today, while there no archeological evidence linking jesus with buddhism, there were denfitely buddhist missionaries sent west towards greece and egypt from about 250BC by asoka, an indian monarch.

there seem to be alot of books and articles that make the case for this idea, but there does not seem to be any archealogical evidence. however it is certainly very interesting, and i think agreat deal more plausible than the article in the OP.

Hi Longway et al,

This is to some, the "deep end" of religion. (Did the Buddha influence Jesus ?)

I follow the teachings of Baha'u'llah, prophet-founder of renewed religion known as the Baha'i Faith.

For those who are unaware, and with absolutely no intention of entering into dispute with anyone, allow me to tell you that Baha'is hold the Lord Buddha in the very highest reverence possible.

They also have a very clear understanding of the intimate relationship between the Lord Buddha and Jesus the Christ as well as a firm understanding of the nature of Maitrya Buddha.

If you would like an explanation, may I respectfully suggest that you check out "The Oneness of the Prophets", a principal tenent of the Baha'i Faith.

As I have been respectful to the forum readers, I ask that you kindly return similar respect to my posting by avoiding contest and contention.

Check it out. You might find answers to the question .

Chock dee !

Edited by SwaziBird

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A prophecy that tells its followers that what they are following is wrong? But to look for a new way to reach an ultimate goal?

There were and are many so called "profits" who want to try to sway your belief, to what they believe. In every religon. This was just another attempt.

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This is to some, the "deep end" of religion. (Did the Buddha influence Jesus ?)

I follow the teachings of Baha'u'llah, prophet-founder of renewed religion known as the Baha'i Faith.

For those who are unaware, and with absolutely no intention of entering into dispute with anyone, allow me to tell you that Baha'is hold the Lord Buddha in the very highest reverence possible.

They also have a very clear understanding of the intimate relationship between the Lord Buddha and Jesus the Christ as well as a firm understanding of the nature of Maitrya Buddha.

If you would like an explanation, may I respectfully suggest that you check out "The Oneness of the Prophets", a principal tenent of the Baha'i Faith.

As I have been respectful to the forum readers, I ask that you kindly return similar respect to my posting by avoiding contest and contention.

Check it out. You might find answers to the question .

Chock dee !

Why would you expect us to be anything else but respectful?

What I'd be interested to know is how important is this "intimate relationship between the Lord Buddha and Jesus the Christ as well as a firm understanding of the nature of Maitrya Buddha" in the Baha'i faith.

Not so much from the point of view of what is believed but whether holding fast to such a belief is important in Baha'i. Is faith based belief important in Baha'i or are such ideas presented in way that gives you freedom to accept, investigate, or reject as you progress along in your spiritual development?

Does it really matter whether this teacher influenced that teacher as an historical fact? does it matter whether you believe it or not? with evidence or not?

Surely with whatever path you follow the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Edited by Brucenkhamen

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You know fellas I think we're going about this all wrong, we shouldn't try to discredit it rather work out how to use it to our advantage.

If the Buddha prophesied the coming of Jesus then obviously he's a prophet of God, right up there with the likes of Moses and John the Baptist.

So next time a Christian is on your case about following the ways of the devil you can whip out a copy of this pamphlet and provide proof you are following a prophet of God, may work with Muslims too.

Maybe this means we can have enlightenment and salvation too.

no, no, no, no no!! one sure-fire way to get rid of jehovah's Witnesses is to tell them you're a buddhist. If you whip out this text they will feel obliged to come round again!!

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