Would You Pay A Bribe

[Begs 1]

This is for all the English Teachers ( criminals ) that do not have a work permit.

A Thai Immigration policeman earns about 7 - 8,000 baht a month....You are working Illegaly earning a lot more than that.

He could arrest you and have you deported.

Would you be willing to pay the Immigration Policeman part of your salary every month to continue in your criminal activities ( Teaching without a work permit ) ?

Or would you think that he is wrong and acting in a Criminal manner?

[kenkannif 1]

I think it would be far more likely that the school would actually pay the bribe (and it's not been unknown for this to happen, although not recently!).

[Harry Palmer 0]

i have paid the occasion traffic bribe, not voluntarily, but it seemed the thing to do at the time, only talking about the odd 100B here though...

as far as paying protection money on a regular basis to a cop or other thai official then no way jose... Madame Palmer's daddy is a cop with some clout... so it would be easy for me to have it sorted out quite quickly...

i would add that if someone out there is paying a bribe of this kind, personally... then pm me & i'll see what can be done...

[RamdomChances 6]

Why just limit this thread to theachers, shurly it applies to all falangs working here illegaly, why not move it to the "genral Topics"

Or have you just got an axe to grind with the teachers?

Oh I'm not a teacher, I work often here, and would have no problem paying bribes.

[Yohan 0]

To pay half of the traffic fine, and he lets me drive on.....

Saves time and money, I would say.

Paying a bribe for a working permit makes sense to me -

however to pay monthly for continue to work without a work permit?

Never had such a situation however.... difficult to say, but maybe better to leave the country, come back, moving to a new address and looking for another illegal job somewhere else...

[falong 0]

Why just limit this thread to theachers, shurly it applies to all falangs working here illegaly, why not move it to the "genral Topics"

Or have you just got an axe to grind with the teachers?

Oh I'm not a teacher, I work often here, and would have no problem paying bribes.

I agree. Teachers are not the only ones working here illegally.

[Ijustwannateach 340]

Moderators, could you please reign in this obsession with working without a work permit? I believe there are now THREE threads focussing on this issue, which is probably three too many.

"Steven"

[RamdomChances 6]

No two have been locked already

I think its a valid thread, as long as its not just aimed at teachers

[ThaiGirlTeen 0]

Moderators, could you please reign in this obsession with working without a work permit? I believe there are now THREE threads focussing on this issue, which is probably three too many.

"Steven"

Why do you care?

Do you not have a work permit?

That means you are breaking the law, do you think this is right?

Farang think they can do what they want in Thailand.

[Ijustwannateach 340]

Then, if it's addressed to everyone, it should be moved to "General Topics." The issue has been rather thoroughly discussed here already.

"Steven"

[mbkudu 0]

Farang think they can do what they want in Thailand.

This is a good one; and Thais don't think the same? Spare me the self-righteousness.

[mbkudu 0]

This is for all the English Teachers ( criminals ) that do not have a work permit.

A Thai Immigration policeman earns about 7 - 8,000 baht a month....You are working Illegaly earning a lot more than that.

He could arrest you and have you deported.

Would you be willing to pay the Immigration Policeman part of your salary every month to continue in your criminal activities ( Teaching without a work permit ) ?

Or would you think that he is wrong and acting in a Criminal manner?

Begs, I really think you should be addressing your angst ridden questions on this subject to Thais who need to learn English in Thailand affordably. If work permit regulations, deportation of illegal teachers and blacklisting were all enforced strickly in Thailand, costs for learning English for Thais would soar to astronomical levels. I understand your steadfastness in upholding the law, but your lack of experience in this business has blinded you to the realities of the situation that foreign teachers, language schools and students are working with.

Here is one example: A good friend of mine who has lived in Thailand for nearly 15 years is a British retiree, 68 years old. He doesn't need to work, but likes to keep himself active in his community by teaching English on a part time basis.

The school where he is employed gives him between 4-6 hours of work per week.

He does not qualify for a work permit and has never asked for one. It would be silly to go through such a process for someone who works so little. His pay is very low, but he enjoys his work and his students are grateful for him being there.

Is this such a crime that requires arrest, deportation, and blacklisting? His students would laugh in your face if you answered yes to this question.

[konangrit 0]

I'm not an English teacher, but if I had the choice of being deported or paying a bribe I'd pay the bribe. Do you honestly expect anyone to choose deportation?

[Martin_F 0]

This is for all the English Teachers ( criminals ) that do not have a work permit.

A Thai Immigration policeman earns about 7 - 8,000 baht a month....You are working Illegaly earning a lot more than that.

He could arrest you and have you deported.

Would you be willing to pay the Immigration Policeman part of your salary every month to continue in your criminal activities ( Teaching without a work permit )  ?   

Or would you think that he is wrong and acting in a Criminal manner? 

Begs, I really think you should be addressing your angst ridden questions on this subject to Thais who need to learn English in Thailand affordably. If work permit regulations, deportation of illegal teachers and blacklisting were all enforced strickly in Thailand, costs for learning English for Thais would soar to astronomical levels. I understand your steadfastness in upholding the law, but your lack of experience in this business has blinded you to the realities of the situation that foreign teachers, language schools and students are working with.

Here is one example: A good friend of mine who has lived in Thailand for nearly 15 years is a British retiree, 68 years old. He doesn't need to work, but likes to keep himself active in his community by teaching English on a part time basis.

The school where he is employed gives him between 4-6 hours of work per week.

He does not qualify for a work permit and has never asked for one. It would be silly to go through such a process for someone who works so little. His pay is very low, but he enjoys his work and his students are grateful for him being there.

Is this such a crime that requires arrest, deportation, and blacklisting? His students would laugh in your face if you answered yes to this question.

There are problems like this everywhere in the world.

The main problem in Thailand is that residency in Thailand does not give the 'alien' any other rights other than staying in Thailand.

There should be exemptions for small amounts of work, especially in the case of retirees who would like to help out and get a little pocket money, probably to buy text books etc.

The same applies to myself, and other 'alien' married husbands, we can only do the work as stipulated on the work permit.

But we come and settle here and we have to accept the rules and regulations here. If we don't like them then we should leave.

Enough said.

[konangrit 0]

Moderators, could you please reign in this obsession with working without a work permit?  I believe there are now THREE threads focussing on this issue, which is probably three too many.

"Steven"

Why do you care?

Do you not have a work permit?

That means you are breaking the law, do you think this is right?

Farang think they can do what they want in Thailand.

Come off it, people from all nationalities work illegaly all over the world. I'm sure there are many Thais working illegaly in the west but I wouldn't come out with the sweeping statement that "Thais think they can do what they want in the west".