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I am a 53 year old expat living in Pattaya. I have a University degree in Maths and Computing and would like to start teaching English in the Pattaya area.

I have no real knowledge of the teaching profession in Thailand and apart from training courses I conducted for employees over many years, I have no teaching experience at all.

I have a reasonable knowledge of English Grammar rules, having learnt German some years ago and also spending the last 3+ years learnig to read/wirte and speak Thai.

I intend to brush up on these skills and enrol on a TEFL course.

All that I have read about TEFL courses leads me to believe that the CELTA Cambridge course is the best.

However, I cannot find one of these near Pattaya, so would like to know if this qualification is a major advantage. For example, there is a non-CELTA course in Jomtien, would someone please advise me if this is a useful course for me to take. I will only ever teach in Thailand.

It also offers jobs - any thoughts on this would also be appreciated.

Thanks for you help, no doubt I will have lots more questions !!!

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If you were young and energetic, intending to teach EFL forever (for a pittance), then the "Cambridge CELTA" would teach you how to teach English to adults anywhere in the world. But as Ijustwannateach has already mentioned, Thailand has many providers of TEFL courses, most of which would train you to teach children in Thailand (and everywhere) as well as adults, and at a cheaper price. Again, search the topics here in this forum, and do your homework in searching.

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Fair comments, from which you have confirmed my 'gut feeling', that as long as the Ministry Of Education recognizes the course, then that will be sufficient qualification for me to teach in Thailand.

Thanks guys, I will go and investigate and maybe have more questions sometime in the future.

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You might consider teaching Math at a Bilingual School or at an EP program. English teachers are a dime a dozen, but Math teachers are pretty rare!

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Fair comments, from which you have confirmed my 'gut feeling', that as long as the Ministry Of Education recognizes the course, then that will be sufficient qualification for me to teach in Thailand.

Thanks guys, I will go and investigate and maybe have more questions sometime in the future.

I would not assume it will be "sufficient qualification" to teach in all schools in Thailand.

Some, possibly. All, no way.

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Teaching maths is a good idea, but not really what I enjoy. Over the last period I have helped quite a few Thais to learn some English. I really enjoyed it and being able to speak, read and write Thai reasonably well, the people appreciated explanations and language structure comparisons in Thai.

I know its not always acceptable to explain a new language in the mother tongue of the learner, but I prefer that method. I know when I learnt German, there was a reluctance to explain anything in English and I cannot say it helped me learn any quicker.

My hope is that I can get into a friendly environment, big school or private language school is not that important. I may even take a job at the language school where I have been learning Thai for the last 3 years - they have asked me to teach there often enough and until now I have been reluctant to get involved.

Oh well back to all the threads about TEFL. One thing I would like to ask though - I would like to buy a decent (1 or more) English Grammar books. Any advice ??? There are lots out there !

I know I can search the threads, but any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

Dave

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Rather than learn English or grammar, you should concentrate on learning how to teach....many people know a lot about a particular subject but have no idea how to teach.

It always amazes me how everyone has an opinion on teaching even if the only experience they ever had was on the receiving end at school.....would they tell a doctor or engineer what to do in such stringent terms???

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Rather than learn English or grammar, you should concentrate on learning how to teach....many people know a lot about a particular subject but have no idea how to teach.

It always amazes me how everyone has an opinion on teaching even if the only experience they ever had was on the receiving end at school.....would they tell a doctor or engineer what to do in such stringent terms???

Curiously I am able to multi-task, but I take your point. On another thread it was recommended I buy 'Training for Dummies by Elaine Biech', which I shall do. Now any advice on a good Engish Grammar book? I have several anyway, but as I am about to buy a new one I would rather get the latest and best.

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Rather than learn English or grammar, you should concentrate on learning how to teach....many people know a lot about a particular subject but have no idea how to teach.

It always amazes me how everyone has an opinion on teaching even if the only experience they ever had was on the receiving end at school.....would they tell a doctor or engineer what to do in such stringent terms???

Curiously I am able to multi-task, but I take your point. On another thread it was recommended I buy 'Training for Dummies by Elaine Biech', which I shall do. Now any advice on a good Engish Grammar book? I have several anyway, but as I am about to buy a new one I would rather get the latest and best.

The book by Micheal Swann (i can't remember the exact title but it's something like English Grammar Usage) is generally considered the best to be used as a reference for yourself.

If you are looking for something to teach from then get the Raymond Murphy series(Essential Grammar in Use, English Grammar in Use and Advanced Grammar in Use).

Training for Dummies is excellent and is availible from Kinokuniya in Bangkok and if you're feeling particularly enthusiastic may I also recommend "Use your Memory" by Tony Buzan which is availible from B2S in Pattaya.

Not a teaching book by any means but many of the memory techniques outlined in his book can be utilized in the EFL classroom to help your students remember the information presented to them.

I have Training for Dummies, Use your memory and the Essential Grammar in Use series which your quite welcome to take a look at. I live in central Pattaya. PM me if you would like to meet up and look at the books prior to ordering them.

Good luck. I can see that you're prepared to put in the groundwork prior to starting to teach and I think you will become an effective EFL teacher.

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Rather than learn English or grammar, you should concentrate on learning how to teach....many people know a lot about a particular subject but have no idea how to teach.

It always amazes me how everyone has an opinion on teaching even if the only experience they ever had was on the receiving end at school.....would they tell a doctor or engineer what to do in such stringent terms???

Curiously I am able to multi-task, but I take your point. On another thread it was recommended I buy 'Training for Dummies by Elaine Biech', which I shall do. Now any advice on a good Engish Grammar book? I have several anyway, but as I am about to buy a new one I would rather get the latest and best.

The book by Micheal Swann (i can't remember the exact title but it's something like English Grammar Usage) is generally considered the best to be used as a reference for yourself.

If you are looking for something to teach from then get the Raymond Murphy series(Essential Grammar in Use, English Grammar in Use and Advanced Grammar in Use).

Training for Dummies is excellent and is availible from Kinokuniya in Bangkok and if you're feeling particularly enthusiastic may I also recommend "Use your Memory" by Tony Buzan which is availible from B2S in Pattaya.

Not a teaching book by any means but many of the memory techniques outlined in his book can be utilized in the EFL classroom to help your students remember the information presented to them.

I have Training for Dummies, Use your memory and the Essential Grammar in Use series which your quite welcome to take a look at. I live in central Pattaya. PM me if you would like to meet up and look at the books prior to ordering them.

Good luck. I can see that you're prepared to put in the groundwork prior to starting to teach and I think you will become an effective EFL teacher.

Thanks for the encouragement. I am going back to the UK in the New Year for 2 weeks, so will pop up to Foyles and Universal Stationers in London and collect a copy of each - should be able to reserve online before I go.

Tony Buzan books bring back happy memories of University 30 years ago. We used his books for ambiguous logic examples. I recall this being one his ambiguous sentences we had to discuss:

"Time flies like an arrow"

Thanks again

Dave

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the thing is you are making assumptions about what you will need to teach.

Whereas a good knowledge of English Grammar may seem important now and will always be useful to you, it may not necessarily be the first thing you need to teach English - especially ESL as many would argue that teaching of grammar in the form of rules etc can just as well be left to the Thai English teachers.

If you sit down in a class and start thumping out grammar to them, the chances are you very soon won't have a class....learn to teach and what to teach before you run out and buy a load of books you don't need.

PS - you'll find multi-tasking an invaluable aid in any class-room!

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I agree with Wilco. The majority of Thais know more about theory than the average native speaker.

Learning Teaching by Jim Scrivener and Michael Swan's Practical English Usage are invaluable resources. I prefer the pocket edition of the latter.

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So sorry,

Michael Swan's Oxford Pocket Basic English Usage is the one.

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