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Mr Squigle,

Thank you so much for your great input. Brick is not Air tight and heat can enter the house area easily!

It is a joy to read your posts!

Next time I need a Brick cement Shed I will be sure to call you up.

http://www.roofhelp.com/Rvalue.htm here is a link to see the C and R values of Brick. And the ability to keep cool!

Bicko, the Company here is called Fresh Flow Service. The owner of the company Works and lives between Thailand and New Zealand. I learned of this style of building while working for OneSteel in Australia ( compatition to Blue Scope).

The owner Kamol, imports the steel into Thailand then after the house spec you have picked is drafted up and Architect has sign off. The steel is measured out and brought to the build site. Where is then cut to length. This you know about. So I will not babble!

He has been building these homes for another company in New Zealand. But is trying to start this way here in Thailand.

Verandahs are 2m wide with a 60cm over hang. I had to keep the verandahs at the same height as roof line as I have two 2m high windows in the livinroom wall. Glass is double pane and reflective film will be applied.

I asked the contractor to use ready mix Cpac for the foundation as I wanted all the same consistency of cement and a one time pour for my foundation and top coat.

Top coat is 7cm deep and was then seal coated to help with moisture seepage through the cement. Under all wall lines I also applied a rubber liner to separate the steel and cement. Wall are then anchor bolted to the foundation every 60cm.

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I built one ground level breeze block upper level wood, I insisted on teak but there are termites here that love teak too, my parquet teak flooring was being eaten within two years the top level took them about 7 years to get to

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Good to see you have got the project of the ground mate.

Steel roof? Bit noisy when its raining! :o

Anyway, good luck with it & I'll drop you a line next time I am coming up that way.

Cheers. :D

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Hi BP.

Welcome to the steel frame club, :D

There's a lot of info on steel roofs and eaves over on the "coolthaihouse" board.

Has your guy ever built a polehouse?

eg: on 3m steel or concrete poles.

Good luck & looking fwd to seeing the end result.

Hi Bicko.... do you have a rough image of your dream house?

I'll bet it looks good.

Please share. :o

GD.

Steel roof? Bit noisy when its raining!
Not if insulated correctly! Edited by GungaDin

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Soundman,

Yes roof is tin, We then will apply apply Sprayed PU Foam, Then 4'' of Acoustic Batt layered next to the PU Foam not on ceiling. Also we are adding Ceramic Insulation to the outer Roof. The Ceraic insulation will be 5 coats to a depth of .24''. Up from the spec of .024''

All of these should help with the Noise & keep the roof free of problems for years to come. Not to mention very effective at keeping heat from entering my house.

Thai Pete, No termites in my house, unless they eat my doors.

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Hi BP.

Welcome to the steel frame club, :D

There's a lot of info on steel roofs and eaves over on the "coolthaihouse" board.

Has your guy ever built a polehouse?

eg: on 3m steel or concrete poles.

Good luck & looking fwd to seeing the end result.

Hi Bicko.... do you have a rough image of your dream house?

I'll bet it looks good.

Please share. :o

GD.

Steel roof? Bit noisy when its raining!
Not if insulated correctly!

Crikey another Aussie!!! Maybe we could make a takeover bid here sometime.

I expect to have my house plans finished in about a week -doing them on Autocad and will post a floor plan and elevations.

It is H shaped and BIG - 260m2 single storey as i am thinking about climbing stairs later on.

One side of the H is kichen and living area with a bedroom and separate bathroom. On the side of the wing is the carport, laundry and clothes drying area with open sides but under the roof. The other side of the H is a huge bedroom with ensuite bathroon with spa etc and a walk in robe. I will have my sound equipment and office in there and be well away from the living area if Madam has visitors etc. I am definitely not anti social but like my privacy and my classical music. On the front is gymnasium and at the side another small bathroom and tool and lawn mower storage for use by gardener - accessible only from outside. The area between the two wings is a breezeway under the main roof but front and back can be opened up completely using sliding glass doors. it will include a Barbeque area, comfortable outdoor furniture and a pool table.

Most floors will be natural stone from Pak Chong and polished marble bench tops in the kitchen. The driveway and carport will be grey slate from Pak Chong. We already have a very nice house in my wifes villlage but we want to get close to town as we intend to start a business venture. The house in the village is only 15kms away and can be the dog house if needed!!! Actually i love the village life and will still spend a fair bit of time there.

Cheers from another Aussie,

Bicko :D

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Hi BP.

Welcome to the steel frame club, :D

There's a lot of info on steel roofs and eaves over on the "coolthaihouse" board.

Has your guy ever built a polehouse?

eg: on 3m steel or concrete poles.

Good luck & looking fwd to seeing the end result.

Hi Bicko.... do you have a rough image of your dream house?

I'll bet it looks good.

Please share. :o

GD.

Steel roof? Bit noisy when its raining!
Not if insulated correctly!

Crikey another Aussie!!! Maybe we could make a takeover bid here sometime.

I expect to have my house plans finished in about a week -doing them on Autocad and will post a floor plan and elevations.

It is H shaped and BIG - 260m2 single storey as i am thinking about climbing stairs later on.

One side of the H is kichen and living area with a bedroom and separate bathroom. On the side of the wing is the carport, laundry and clothes drying area with open sides but under the roof. The other side of the H is a huge bedroom with ensuite bathroon with spa etc and a walk in robe. I will have my sound equipment and office in there and be well away from the living area if Madam has visitors etc. I am definitely not anti social but like my privacy and my classical music. On the front is gymnasium and at the side another small bathroom and tool and lawn mower storage for use by gardener - accessible only from outside. The area between the two wings is a breezeway under the main roof but front and back can be opened up completely using sliding glass doors. it will include a Barbeque area, comfortable outdoor furniture and a pool table.

Most floors will be natural stone from Pak Chong and polished marble bench tops in the kitchen. The driveway and carport will be grey slate from Pak Chong. We already have a very nice house in my wifes villlage but we want to get close to town as we intend to start a business venture. The house in the village is only 15kms away and can be the dog house if needed!!! Actually i love the village life and will still spend a fair bit of time there.

Cheers from another Aussie,

Bicko :D

The areas between the wings will be nicely landscaped with lots of shade, orchids, natural stone stepping stones, water features etc AND MOSQUITO SCREENS ON ALL DOORS AND WINDOWS.

(I have had the mosquito borne virus Ross River Virus that i picked up here in Sumatra for the past 18 months. Would not wish it on anyone, Thank goodness it is almost finished.)

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House is built on site of Hi tinsel steel coated with Zinc/Aluminum/Silicon. All cuts are coated with Anti corrosive paint. Walls are 4'' G channel steel ,Portland cement with cellullose fibre cladding, then filled with PU Foam on exterior walls and closed in with smart board, not gypsum!Interior walls are all filled with 4'' acoustic batt. Smart board on each side. Roof is also linned with PU Foam and then another layer of Acoustic batting is added.Roof is then coated with Cermanic roof coating.

These houses have been made for years in other countries but just now staring here.

Houses are not Pre-Fab They do not come in a box!!

You can pick and size or shape you like and pay per metre price. I believe they start at 8000 per metre and climb to 9500 for higher spec. But remember they carry a guarentee also and contractor will not stiff you!!

I have heard alot of sad stories from first price to finished price.

I have picked every piece of material that has gone on my home. And so can you!

This is just a new option to use'n brick or wood. I personaly don't like brick, unless I'm building a pizza oven, barbeque or shed. I would use wood but price is out of my range.

Don't need to settle for that house in a thai website that any Tamboon contractor can build.

Pick and price your spec!

All doors are solid wood, kitchen is marble tops and solid wood doors. I have picked Ceramic tile for my floors but they have any style you want!

You just tell them the materials and they use steel for walls not Cement or wood. These houses are cooler then brick hands done and they are air/water tight after PU Foam is applied.

A house can be built here using Smartblock (good insulation & soundproofing) for the walls at a cost of 7500-9500 baht a meter depending on overall quality desired. Smartblock currently cost 18 baht and 1 Smartblock = 13 standard Thai brick. That's what I'll use when I build.

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Bicko, what's the cost of the natural stone from Pak Chong? Also, how about the cost of the grey slate? Sounds like some beautiful material. I've got my land (5.75 rai) and house plans drawn (304 s.meter) but am still deciding on flooring, etc.

I'm not into classical music but will have a Home Theater room; gotta have something to do in the rainy season!

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BP,

Good to see your project being built. I remember talking to you about it at the Surin TV party. Please keep us posted on the progress. Love to see the finished project. May just have to make a trip to see you now that I live in Korat.

Rdrokit

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Bicko, what's the cost of the natural stone from Pak Chong? Also, how about the cost of the grey slate? Sounds like some beautiful material. I've got my land (5.75 rai) and house plans drawn (304 s.meter) but am still deciding on flooring, etc.

I'm not into classical music but will have a Home Theater room; gotta have something to do in the rainy season!

Sorry can not tell you offhand but it's cheap. I am currently in Sumatra but home in a few days and will check it out. There are hundreds of shops and factories along Highway 2 at Pak Chong selling natural stone and slate. They stack it in heaps along the side of the road and you buy it by the tonne. It's just a matter of driving along until you see the stone that you like and then begin bargaining. There are also a lot of shops and factories selling stone and concrete garden ornaments, elephants, Buddha images, fountains, garden lights, garden seats and tables and so on.

There are also a lot of places that cut natural stone floor tiles and bench tops.

Man 5.75 rai is a lot of land. (9,200 m2 or just short of 1 hectare) Where abouts are you?

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Good to see you have got the project of the ground mate.

Steel roof? Bit noisy when its raining! :o

Anyway, good luck with it & I'll drop you a line next time I am coming up that way.

Cheers. :D

For anyone wanting to make metal roofs quieter, find some undercoating and apply to the underside .. about 2-3 mm thick should work. It can be painted after it dries if you don't like the look. The material acts as a viscoelastic dampener and the metal won't resonate.

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House is built on site of Hi tinsel steel coated with Zinc/Aluminum/Silicon.

I'm sure it will look great for Christmas.

I think you meant high tensile :o

Cheers

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I love the natural rock floors. My wife hates them as much as I like them. She sweeps and mops every day and if the floor is NOT shiny she is not interested. She DOES like marble. :o

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Bicko, what's the cost of the natural stone from Pak Chong? Also, how about the cost of the grey slate? Sounds like some beautiful material. I've got my land (5.75 rai) and house plans drawn (304 s.meter) but am still deciding on flooring, etc.

I'm not into classical music but will have a Home Theater room; gotta have something to do in the rainy season!

Sorry can not tell you offhand but it's cheap. I am currently in Sumatra but home in a few days and will check it out. There are hundreds of shops and factories along Highway 2 at Pak Chong selling natural stone and slate. They stack it in heaps along the side of the road and you buy it by the tonne. It's just a matter of driving along until you see the stone that you like and then begin bargaining. There are also a lot of shops and factories selling stone and concrete garden ornaments, elephants, Buddha images, fountains, garden lights, garden seats and tables and so on.

There are also a lot of places that cut natural stone floor tiles and bench tops.

Man 5.75 rai is a lot of land. (9,200 m2 or just short of 1 hectare) Where abouts are you?

I'm about 11 kilometers SW from downtown Udon Thani. I got real lucky when a Thai guy needed money fast. Land has power, water, phone land-line, strong cell phone signal. I have a baby coming Dec. 7 (this Friday) by C-section so we've been busy of course. I will build when the time is right.

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