sunreader Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 To what extent should one strip off? (Do you keep your undergarments on?) Under what circumstances is it inappropriate to ask for extras? (is there a menu of options and costs?) In Thai culture do Thai men go to massage parlours for relief? (Does one establishment cater for traditional and another for 'alternative') How common place are masseurs? (What is the legal minimum age from which they can trade?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 In Thai culture do Thai men go to massage parlours for relief? (Does one establishment cater for traditional and another for 'alternative') Yes. Look for the places with a waterfall outside, either real, or simulated with strings of lights. The services range from traditional to the full exotic.......... You need to specify what you need, so a command of the Thai language is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Usually shorts/pants for thai massage, oil is completely nud_e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 No rules let your body do the talkig. No watta mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitag1 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Everything goes! No... but it is up to you what you make out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spee Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 To what extent should one strip off? (Do you keep your undergarments on?)Under what circumstances is it inappropriate to ask for extras? (is there a menu of options and costs?) In Thai culture do Thai men go to massage parlours for relief? (Does one establishment cater for traditional and another for 'alternative') How common place are masseurs? (What is the legal minimum age from which they can trade?) My 2p worth ... What you see (or don't see) is usually what you get if you catch my drift. If everything is out front in public view, then it's pretty obvious there are no "favors" to be discussed or negotiated. If it's not, then it may be one of the other places. Same thing with location. If it's in a well traveled place, such as a train station, or the opposite, then you should be able to put two and two together. Same thing with dress. If you go inside and the workers are dressed casual like you, or with more intimately suggestive attire, then you should be able to figure it out. Same thing for the menu. A place that is strictly feet, body, neck, etc., will have the services and prices posted clearly. If not, well then, the menu is probably negotiated on a case by case basis if you know what I mean. As for commonplace, they are ubiquitous. Inexpensive, top notch, Thai-style massage is one of my favorite things when I have some spare time, whether out on R&R, waiting for a train or plane, or just generally tense or tired. A good thorough massage is very theraputic and done right, there is nothing like it. Personally, I have bad feet and ankles from multiple injuries during my youth. I get foot massages whenever I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howtoescape Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Personally, I have bad feet and ankles from multiple injuries during my youth. I get foot massages whenever I can. Sounds as if it would be a massuesses dream to massage your trotters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Looks like you are looking for more than just massage and I cannot help you there. However, if the Traditional Thai Massage is what you are looking for, usually they give you a dress (pants and top) to put on. Keep your underwear on. The ladies there are mostly a bit older and a bit on the heavy side, but - hey - that's what it needs for a good massage. Also, they are usually all dressed the same, kind of working uniform. Also the price is a good hint for what you might or might not expect. I pay THB 300 for 2 hours (+ tip). But if the price is somewhere THB 2'000 and more, you might expect more than an old fashioned massage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnake Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 If it's behind close doors what goes on is between you and the masseurs, some are more willing than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries74 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 If it's behind close doors what goes on is between you and the masseurs, some are more willing than others. Do you guys know if some place prohibit foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid25 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 so many guys trying to ask sex questions dressed up as "cultural inquiries".. i hope none of you are married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choscura Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 use common sense. old ladies aren't going to give you a pickle massage, and young ladies running about in their undies probably don't know how to give any other type. rule of thumb: don't ask for what isn't offered. if it's available, you will be offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiamo Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Usually shorts/pants for thai massage, oil is completely nud_e. Whereas if you are a lady, you will be given a VERY attractive pair of paper knickers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiakaha Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 If you want a real massage there are plenty of non-sex places with well trained staff in the actual art and culture of the tradition. If you need rub and tug etc...., do not pass Go and proceed directly to Akane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Seems as tho the OP is looking for a happy ending. A perusal of forum rules shows that this kind of discussion has been deemed inappropriate by admin: 1) You will not use thaivisa.com to post any material which is knowingly or can be reasonably construed as false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, referencing prostitution (including bargirls and barboys), referencing suicide, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. If you want to have a discussion of real thai massage then lets change direction now or this thread will be closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I think if you want a proper massage, there is a sign outside that indicates that the masseuse have been trained at a certain training centre. If someone knows what that sign is, please post a photo. ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I used to like Thai traditional massage but now find I don't like it. I even think some of the moves such as pressure to the arteries in your thighs and snapping your head can be very hazardous to your health. The level of training is very uneven and they almost never ask you about medical conditions. Anyway, I do enjoy traditional Western massage, such as Swedish. However, in Thailand, when I see oil massage offered, I assume it will be a cover for sex services. I am not interested. How to get legit oil massage in Thailand? Would legit mean not going naked? In the west, you would go naked, but they use towels in a way to signal it is all about therapy and not the big O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptuan Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I used to like Thai traditional massage but now find I don't like it. I even think some of the moves such as pressure to the arteries in your thighs and snapping your head can be very hazardous to your health.... I'm with you. My first (and last) Thai massage was at the prestigious Wat Po. After the painful twisting, turning, and snapping, (and I'm in shape--not a weakling) I felt like I had just survived combat in a "professional" wrestling ring. I go for a massage to relieve the stress, not add to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop_corn Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I agree with Realmadrid... !!!! hehe, I just can imagine a guy asking in a decent massage place for a special massage with a happy ending.. O_o! lmao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 old ladies aren't going to give you a pickle massage They certainly will if you let 'em. Some of my buddies aren't very picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 To be honest personally I go for a thai massage I go for a masage. Nothing better than having a good 2hr - turn me into a pretzel session. Don't particularly care for oil because it takes 5/6 showers to get it off me. (feels good though at the time) Any rate if one was to go for a massage for other reasons other than a massage I'd think there would be better options available than going to a massage parlor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howtoescape Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 To be honest personally I go for a thai massage I go for a masage. Nothing better than having a good 2hr - turn me into a pretzel session. Don't particularly care for oil because it takes 5/6 showers to get it off me. (feels good though at the time) Any rate if one was to go for a massage for other reasons other than a massage I'd think there would be better options available than going to a massage parlor? My thoughts exactly, however when i go for a massage and it is the 1 blokes turn in the shop to give a massage i will only let him do a foot massage as the thought of a male giving me a massage isnt a pleasant one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstumbo Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I have had oil massages in the past where I just leave my underwear on. They usually say something about taking them off, but I just say that I want to leave them on. They kind of get the hint that I really want a massage. I got Thai massages before, but I also feel that they stress the joints too much. I want pressure and working on the muscles, not my joints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distortedlink Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 In Chiang Mai, every time I decide to go for a massage, the girl is either sick or on holiday and her grandmother is left minding the shop. If like me you prefer some nice attractive girl for your massage, you are going to be disappointed if you live in the North. In Chiang Mai over the last few years, someone has given them an education on how to fleece deprived farangs out of their cash by insisting on exorbitant tips. These days I visit the old style medicine hospitals for a massage and although I usually end up with someone’s great Aunt, they do give an excellent massage for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 100bht tip is usually what I give for 2hrs. (prob get ragged for giving that much, but figure least I can give considering what it costs in west for a massage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiakaha Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Try the Wat Po Traditional Thai Massage school...around 250 BT from memory, haven't been for ages.Gets a few tourists, but is reasonably pleasant. Not a luxury spa setting, but none the less, it is supposed to be the home of traditional massage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distortedlink Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 (edited) 100bht tip is usually what I give for 2hrs. (prob get ragged for giving that much, but figure least I can give considering what it costs in west for a massage) 100 baht tip for a 2 hour service than you are not doing yourself or anyone else any favours. In Thailand the Thais consider that what you first pay is standard from than on and will come to expect the same from other customers. For those of us that live here this just increases the cost of living and puts more pressure on tourists to find more money and pay more for a Thai holiday. 10 years ago tipping was not part of the Thai way of doing business, unless for an exceptional service. Than as tourism increased here, farang holidaymakers who thought Thailand was cheap, began giving over the top tips so they would appear as big shots to what they believed were the financially poor Thais. This has inevitably increased prices for social and entrainment, making it more difficult for these establishments to attract customers because they have become too expensive. Everyone's a loser all round. Edited March 9, 2008 by distortedlink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 ^^^^Up to you to be a cheap charlie!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howtoescape Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 100 baht tip for a 2 hour service than you are not doing yourself or anyone else any favours. Apart from the massuese and her family, and the shop where they spend this extra money, and the van driver who gets more work delivering more goods to this shop, and the goods manufacturer whose company grows and the new staff that he takes on, i can go on and on. For those of us that live here this just increases the cost of living and puts more pressure on tourists to find more money and pay more for a Thai holiday. So long as youre ok then. This has inevitably increased prices for social and entrainment, making it more difficult for these establishments to attract customers because they have become too expensive. They are business's they can put up or lower there prices to get entertainment, in the 8 years i have been going to LOS entertainment establishments sem to be springing up everywhere hence there is lots of competition to keep prices at an equilibrium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awk Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Anyway, I do enjoy traditional Western massage, such as Swedish. However, in Thailand, when I see oil massage offered, I assume it will be a cover for sex services. I am not interested. How to get legit oil massage in Thailand? Would legit mean not going naked? In the west, you would go naked, but they use towels in a way to signal it is all about therapy and not the big O. While oil massage is a more likly precursor to "something extra" than thai massage, it is by no means a cover for sex services. I know several females who enjoy a oil massage now and then, without me thinking it's anything more than that. The staff would probably take the hint if you keept your underwear on, but then you would probably end up with oily underwear. Even in the cases where something extra is offered, a simple "no thanks" should always work. Unless you're even more hansum than me, they're not likly to force you to accept anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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