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I just wondered if anyone could tell me why they don't farm sheep in Isaan. Lamb is tasty meat, I'm sure there'd be a market for it.

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already been discussed once:

southern muslem thai eat sheep and goats; all the thai people i know dont touch it with a ten foot pole they claim that sheep and goats stink... i love lamb and goat (i raise them, but not in thailand).... to each his/her own;

i think that sheep are difficult to raise in humid tropic climates unless there is a breed that i dont know about that can deal with the humidity (beduin sheep deal with dry desert heat)...we shear ours every May before the heavy heat...

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I love a good lamb chop now and then but to try and find one is very difficult. The only mutton I could find was at the local farang store in Buriram but at a price. Maybe if there was more demand for it, it would become more available. Now that Thailand and Australia have renewed and improved their relations things might become easier for us mutton chompers.

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There is actually some sheep and goat farming in thailand, even up here (central thai) but as bina says most thais wont eat it because they think it smells (even though they have never tried it).

As far as I can tell the meat goes down south and is bought by agents. I've never seen goat or lamb on sale in the markets here, although Macro does stock frozen aussy lamb some times (about 600 bht a leg)

I've often though that there is a speciality market for good quality lamb (the thai lamb is'nt) i.e resteraunts/hotels/deli's in bkk and tourist areas.

Raising them in the heat and humidity would be a challenge, i've also thought about getting a few new born lambs and fatting them up for a few months (baged food and good quality grass). Of course you would have to kill them (or get someone to do it for you), butchering is an other problem as the thais just tend to hack bits off.

I dont know if lambs have to be hung (like beef) before eating, if so that would also be a prob.

Cheers RC

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Bina and Random have just about said it all, but I'll add a penn'orth to the basket. Having kept goats in the past, they present no problems in the raising (if done correctly) or the marketing (if you know where to look), but most Thais do turn their noses up at them, even without ever having tasted goat meat/chevon. However, sheep present a new set of problems, being predominant grazers, unlike the drought-tolerant browsing goats, (who will put up with heat, cold and generally take the good times with the bad). Sheep need shearing and as there's no market for wool in Thailand afaik, then your only option would be too dump it, or start a cottage industry with your missus spinning a jenny. Could be quite fun, if you'r into the Good Life (not just Felicity Kendall's knickers), and wanted to pioneer a new industry in LoS. It's not as if Thais, don't love wrapping up to the eyeballs in every piece of clothing in their wardrobe, when the mercury hits 19 C, all of 4 days a year each Dec/Jan! Nowt like a wooly jumper in the morning (if you're from Nz or Wales)! :o

So, not impossible, but just not the easiest option in the book and you'll be buggered if you can find a source of lambs, this side of Ratchburi (wee tip of where to look for goats and sheep). :D

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Pla, I can actually get lambs here(or used to be able to), and theres lots of goat farming. For the wool it would have to be mittens and slippers, although last year I could of done with a wooly jumper it was regularly geting down to 14 C in the nights.

Come to think of it its getting a bit chilly in the mornings now, time to dig the fleece out.

Cheers RC

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dont need to hang lamb: slaughter the kosher or islamic way (bleed first, then hack off the pieces) and put on a good wood fire....

mutton , well, no israeli jew or beduin or arab in his right mind will eat it, too old and strong tasting... also, bag fed (concentrated food) lamb doesnt sell well here, most people buy lamb at 17 shekel a kilo live, send it to pasture for an other month to get the 'free range' taste', then light the barbecue...

sheep graze from the ground, and only grass hay types; goats forage every where and make better use of what they eat... they are hardier, more intelligent, can withstand stress from dogs etc... sheep shearing is a major backache and to really shear a flock, you usually rent a person who travels around the country from flock to flock, and he has workers that do mechanical shearing... but wont do it for a few sheep.... i do (did,see below) my sheep, angora goats and alpacas; that is, my thai worker does it better and faster then me, but i had to teach him.

its ramadan here, and my 11 beautiful zoo goats (some worth over 2000 shekels a piece not as meat ), most of them recently bred, two bottle fed pet lambs and one horse were stolen in the middle of the night even with alarm systems and all... and the thieves tied my baby three yr. old camel up with a rope and she strangled herself since she was never trained to stand tied....

any body want to donate some thai buffalo???? too big and heavy to steal :o

hey RANDOM , my goat came back negative for johnnes disease but only got the results two days after they were stolen.... intensive worming with something , not ivomac, and vitamin b complex shots for two weeks seemed to do the trick just in time for id al fitr (muslem holiday after ramadan)

no offense to any muslems on the forum....

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its ramadan here, and my 11 beautiful zoo goats (some worth over 2000 shekels a piece not as meat ), most of them recently bred, two bottle fed pet lambs and one horse were stolen in the middle of the night even with alarm systems and all... and the thieves tied my baby three yr. old camel up with a rope and she strangled herself since she was never trained to stand tied....

Skip the alarm systems - just hang a sign saying something along the lines of:

"هؤلاء غنم قد غُذِّيَتْ بلحم الخنزير الغير مطهوّ ."

(These sheep have been fed with pork meat)

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Hi Bina

Really sorry to hear about your animals being stolen.

As you and plachon have said goats are definatly more suited to the enviroment here, I also think "kid" tastes nearly as good as lamb, and a good goat curry takes some beating.

I have'nt seen any sheared sheep here just ones with scraggy mangy fleeces, not shure if they shear them ( but have'nt seen that many anyway).

I had 2 cows already tested positive for johnnes, I did'nt think it was treatable, but could'nt take the risk anyway, so off they went (probably burgers now).

Oh by the way how much is a shekel ??

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If you like good Oz lamb, speak nicely to Big Bob at The Office in Soi 33 next time yr in BKK and he will give you the location of his supplier around the soi 71 area off Sukh.

It's worth a visit.

Great stuff and very tender. :o

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I just wondered if anyone could tell me why they don't farm sheep in Isaan. Lamb is tasty meat, I'm sure there'd be a market for it.

There is an English guy that has a sheep farm just outside Surin. We buy his meat for our restaurant. So it's not just hearsay.

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I just wondered if anyone could tell me why they don't farm sheep in Isaan. Lamb is tasty meat, I'm sure there'd be a market for it.

There is an English guy that has a sheep farm just outside Surin. We buy his meat for our restaurant. So it's not just hearsay.

Any more details Lampard, like village/district or even name, as would be interested to go and have a butchers some time. Might buy a half side of lamb at the same time, if there's any available. :o

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I just wondered if anyone could tell me why they don't farm sheep in Isaan. Lamb is tasty meat, I'm sure there'd be a market for it.

There is an English guy that has a sheep farm just outside Surin. We buy his meat for our restaurant. So it's not just hearsay.

Any more details Lampard, like village/district or even name, as would be interested to go and have a butchers some time. Might buy a half side of lamb at the same time, if there's any available. :o

It's called 'The Siam Sheep Farm' run by Steve Aldington tel; 068759994/016008140 and its in Lamduan about 24 kms from town.

The full address is

Siam Sheep Farm

Baan Chay Crerin M8

T.Trabean Tear

A. Lamduan

Surin

regards martin

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It's called 'The Siam Sheep Farm'  run by Steve Aldington tel; 068759994/016008140 and its in Lamduan about 24 kms from town.

          The full address is

                Siam Sheep Farm

                    Baan Chay Crerin M8

                          T.Trabean Tear

                              A. Lamduan

                                  Surin

                          regards martin

I thought farming was a restricted occupation not open to foreigners. No?

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It's called 'The Siam Sheep Farm'  run by Steve Aldington tel; 068759994/016008140 and its in Lamduan about 24 kms from town.

          The full address is

                Siam Sheep Farm

                    Baan Chay Crerin M8

                           T.Trabean Tear

                              A. Lamduan

                                   Surin

                          regards martin

I thought farming was a restricted occupation not open to foreigners. No?

Not that I've heard. I've just sold our Ostrich farm in Surin, and that was a limited company,with me owning 45% shares. They took too much looking after what with the Pub and all that.

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