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I was asked by my director (boss) the other day if I would be willing to teach the director at the local labor office (the one who authorized my WP) English a few hours a week at a rate of 350 baht an hour. My director said that she could rearrange my schedule to make it convenient for me. I would probably be willing to volunteer my time rather than receive payment, but this women at the labor office insists on compensating me.

I am a contracted employee and not wanting to sound paranoid, but I do not want to cross any (legal) boundaries either. i told my director that i would think about it. What would you do? :o

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Look mate, youv'e hit the jackpot. I don't think there trying to catch you out or anything. It sounds to me like they like (oh repetition!) you and just figure you can help out the official.

go for it, believe me it goes along way here. Visa problems will be the thing of the past.

(Too all the teacher haters, sorry if i mispelled - sue me...)

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I wouldn't do it.

It's a crap rate and you'd be breaking the law.

The big factor would be if you pissed this person off, which is highly possible, then you'd be fuked. Very nicely offer an appropriate excuse to your boss (Don't say 'I don't want to!').

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Its a crap rate, but play it by ear, im married to a Thai, been here 4 years teaching, its not in there interest to set you up.

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Dodgy one for sure. Your director is willing to arrange you schedule to make it convenient for you? You have to do the five finger exercise "what's - in - it - for - her?".

jasreeve17 is right the rate is crap which brings us back to the five fingered exercise and who is taking advantage of who and why? Your director provides cheap English tuition in return for certain considerations. Those considerations may extend to your advantage but, again as said before, you are now in a cleft stick, one false move and it's aus viederzeihn pet (apologies to any Germans reading this for my cr@p spelling).

Personally I'd try and get out of it but that may also not be the best move for you future.

No, I don't envy you one bit.

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Do it but get the director to arrange it during your normal working hours.

Ask for more money. They might be expecting you to negotiate.

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Got to agree with howmuch here.... these things are the way to open doors in Thailand you scratch there back they wil scratch yours..golden oppurtunity jump in

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I wouldn't do it.

It's a crap rate and you'd be breaking the law.

The big factor would be if you pissed this person off, which is highly possible, then you'd be fuked. Very nicely offer an appropriate excuse to your boss (Don't say 'I don't want to!').

Yes I agree that it is a crap rate, however not many people are willing to pay much more for private tutoring where I live in the sticks since not many can afford to! I am very confident that this is not some kind of a set up since I just got my 1 year extension last week and my 1 year stamp in my WP plus I have a very good relationship with my boss who was educated in America and who is really very kind hearted and supportive. What you stated about pissing this person off even unintentionally is what concerns me the most, yet i am not in the habit of pissing people off even unintentionally. Like I stated, I would not mind volunteering a few hours a week especially if the time could be worked around my schedule and think that this could be a good contact, but i really do not want to be breaking any law since i value being legal. Thanks for the advice.

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I say go for it. To echo others here, these are my reasons why:

1) The rate isn't so bad for tutoring upcountry. It'll bring in a little extra cash.

2) You have the opportunity to make a very useful contact. You never know when a highly placed Thai friend or acquaintance will be helpful.

3) This could lead to other private tutoring work if you are interested in securing more hours.

4) You will be doing your boss a favor. This is a very good thing to do in a society that operates primarily under a patronage system.

5) If you can work it out so that the lessons occur during your regular hours then it is a win-win situation for the extra cash.

I wouldn't worry about making an enemy. If you do a good job and show up on time there is nothing to worry about.

Edited by way2muchcoffee

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Briggsy & PhilHarries both make good points, and are good experienced posters. The few that suggest it's the Thai way to get ahead are misleading you. It's the Thai way for Thais to get ahead - your not Thai.

I'd try to get out of it as tactfully as possible. Or, do it in work time after receiving an invitation letter (if possible...).

As far as pissing people off goes; even if all parties are lovely people with the best intentions it happens all too regularly. The single biggest problem for all teachers is workplace dynamics. There is always a lot of politics going on which you will have no way of understanding...

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Briggsy & PhilHarries both make good points, and are good experienced posters. The few that suggest it's the Thai way to get ahead are misleading you. It's the Thai way for Thais to get ahead - your not Thai.

I respectfully disagree. In the six years I've been teaching in Thailand I've made numerous Thai contacts through private tutoring. These contacts have led to more and more work with increasingly higher prestige and pay. Occasionally I'll be asked to do an all expenses paid weekend seminar, which affords the opportunity for even further contact development. One or two of these contacts have even crossed over into becoming friends, and these people have been especially helpful in numerous ways. The private tutoring circuit is all about reputation and word of mouth. Any contacts you can make are useful.

When I started private tutoring 6 years ago I was earning only 400 bt/hr on average. Now I am able to charge a minimum of 1000/hr. This is largely due to word of mouth referrals. These referrals, of course, came from contacts I made earlier. As another example, a friend of mine has niched himself as an IGCSE/IB Chemistry tutor and is affiliated with one of the better British Curriculum schools in BKK. He now has an office at the school, is given a room to teach students in after regular class hours, and commands 1500 bt/hr. He collects no money from the school itself as it all comes from the parents. In fact, it was the parents who convinced the headmaster to provide the room and office to make the tutoring more convenient.

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Briggsy & PhilHarries both make good points, and are good experienced posters. The few that suggest it's the Thai way to get ahead are misleading you. It's the Thai way for Thais to get ahead - your not Thai.

I respectfully disagree. In the six years I've been teaching in Thailand I've made numerous Thai contacts through private tutoring. These contacts have led to more and more work with increasingly higher prestige and pay. One or two of these contacts have even crossed over into becoming friends, and these people have been especially helpful in numerous ways. The private tutoring circuit is all about reputation and word of mouth.

When I started private tutoring 6 years ago I was earning only 400 bt/hr on average. Now I am able to charge a minimum of 1000/hr. This is largely due to word of mouth referrals. These referrals, of course, came from contacts I made earlier.

As another example, a friend of mine has niched himself as an IGCSE/IB Chemistry tutor and is affiliated with one of the better British Curriculum schools in BKK. He now has an office at the school, is given a room to teach students in after regular class hours, and commands 1500 bt/hr. He collects no money from the school itself as it all comes from the parents. It was the parents who convinced the headmaster to provide the room to make the tutoring more convenient.

I agree with you regarding the private tutoring, but that's not my point.

My thoughts were that when a Thai does a favour for a Thai, and you're included, then it's not for your benefit. Also, the way that Thais do business with each other is an area that we will never be allowed into.

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My thoughts were that when a Thai does a favour for a Thai, and you're included, then it's not for your benefit. Also, the way that Thais do business with each other is an area that we will never be allowed into.

Ok then. We agree and can chalk it up to an internet misunderstanding. :o

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My thoughts were that when a Thai does a favour for a Thai, and you're included, then it's not for your benefit. Also, the way that Thais do business with each other is an area that we will never be allowed into.

Ok then. We agree and can chalk it up to an internet misunderstanding. :o

Thank you Sir, respectfully. :D

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Thanks for the replies. I truly appreciate all of your opinions and found them to be constructive. A special thanks to way2muchcoffee and jasreeve17. I will ponder both of your opinions since I found them to be on opposite poles, yet you both made some very good points. i am not sure that I agree with everything stated and will go with my gut in the end. Everyone who lives in this country can appreciate the value of making contacts especially contacts that can be of extreme benefit, but at the same time no one wants to get burnt in the process so I will take some time and way the pros vs. cons. Thanks again! :o

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