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We (my wife and I) recently went through the process of legally obtaining a gun. I think a 9mm may be too big for your needs, suggest .38mm. I would be surprised if you can get a premit for a 9mm.

Also I would suggest travelling to Bkk to buy the gun - there is very little to choose from in Ubon, I understand.

We purchased a .385 Smith & Wesson revolver for just over Bt90K. The semi autos can be got for about Bt50-60K.

There must be quite a bit of duty on handguns ,(or big margins) The S&W model 385 in .357 magnum sells for $800 US in the states.

The .357 magnum is a good choice in a revolver as it gives the option of using the magnum shell or the more user friendly .38 if a woman is firing it.

Imported guns are very expensive in Thailand. Lots of tax. The prices above sound in the ballpark according to the gun magazines I have read.

however

If you are police, or a member of the armed services you are entitled to a 60% (I think) discount off the price of the firearm.

Cheers,

Soundman.

So if I bring a police officer along I might be able to get a big discount? I might just bring one along. I will check on Friday in Bangkok if this is true.

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Any reason why you picked a revolver over semi auto? I guess the maintenance is easier, but are there other reasons?[/size][/font]

The revolver trigger mechanism cannot be fired accidentally, especially for a second shot. You really have to pull it positively and can feel when it is about to fire, I am told that the semi auto is also more likely to jam. Also, I believe, that it is easier to check if it is loaded or not. I suggest you try both to compare.

The 9mm will have quite a kick and maybe more difficult for a woman to control. The .38 slugs are quite common and cost Bt30 each.

ok thanks for the info. i will take a look at the gun..

cheers

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And I will ask the first question i asked again .... to the OP.... why do you want a gun?

It's a fairly simple question and if you can't answer it without beating around the bush about ammo availability and questioning gun laws ..... well, you shouldn't really be allowed to have one.

I want a gun for home protection. A copal of rounds in the air will scare off an intruder. Shooting an intruder would be of last resort. But this is off topic and would rather stick to where to buy a gun what price and what model..

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My advice to you is this:

Keep the gun safely stored in your house.

Keep it locked un loaded in the boot of your car to & from trips to the range (Ramkamhaeng). Use it to protect your life & your property. Never aim it at anyone or anything you don't intend to kill.

Be safe. Million to 1 chance you would ever need to use it in anger.

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My advice to you is this:

Keep the gun safely stored in your house.

Keep it locked un loaded in the boot of your car to & from trips to the range (Ramkamhaeng). Use it to protect your life & your property. Never aim it at anyone or anything you don't intend to kill.

Be safe. Million to 1 chance you would ever need to use it in anger.

I would say that having a gun is asking for trouble, but the OP has already made up his mind so hey-ho.

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I am just saying that legally you are not allowed to even touch that gun, only your wife is!

Please show where the law states this, normally anyone can use a registered firearm if the registered owner is present, whether that be on a range or shooting cans on a farm. It may be different in Thailand but that is the way it is in most places.

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Amsterdam your OP said,

I should have all the legal documents done by the end of this week to own a gun in my wife name.

You seem surprised/offended that people are commenting on this statement rather than your questions - even though you are asking people to advise you on how to break the law.

I will admit to being firmly anti-gun ownership. but that is not the point here. I am sure even most of those law abiding people who admit to supporting gun ownership would be against people obtaining them illegally.

He is not breaking the law. His wife is getting the gun in her name not his. He is not breaking the law. He and his wife only want it if for self defense. If he has to use his wifes gun to protect his family from murder or rape ect. that is his choice. I am sure the police will see that he had no orther choice to defend his loved ones. If you chose to protect your loved ones by beating the intruder with peace signs and John Lennon "Give Peace A Chance" CD's thats your choice also.

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Amsterdam your OP said,

I should have all the legal documents done by the end of this week to own a gun in my wife name.

You seem surprised/offended that people are commenting on this statement rather than your questions - even though you are asking people to advise you on how to break the law.

I will admit to being firmly anti-gun ownership. but that is not the point here. I am sure even most of those law abiding people who admit to supporting gun ownership would be against people obtaining them illegally.

He is not breaking the law. His wife is getting the gun in her name not his. He is not breaking the law. He and his wife only want it if for self defense. If he has to use his wifes gun to protect his family from murder or rape ect. that is his choice. I am sure the police will see that he had no orther choice to defend his loved ones. If you chose to protect your loved ones by beating the intruder with peace signs and John Lennon "Give Peace A Chance" CD's thats your choice also.

He is not allowed to own a gun for self-defence. While it is often tempting to break the laws that don't suit us, I try not to encourage this. The OP clearly states in his post he wants to own a gun in his wife's name. Now while you might see respecting Thai law as equating to being a tree-hugging hippy, I disagree.

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Depends how you look at it, technically it's not his whatever he states in his post, so it doesn't really matter. Unless its kept in a different house to his wife's etc.. then he isn't doing anything wrong. However if you were to just use your wife to buy it and then keep it in your condo or your own car, then yes it could be seen as illegal.

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And I will ask the first question i asked again .... to the OP.... why do you want a gun?

It's a fairly simple question and if you can't answer it without beating around the bush about ammo availability and questioning gun laws ..... well, you shouldn't really be allowed to have one.

I want a gun for home protection. A copal of rounds in the air will scare off an intruder. Shooting an intruder would be of last resort. But this is off topic and would rather stick to where to buy a gun what price and what model..

Given the difference in tone between your first post and then this one, please excuse me for saying that I think you are talking utter <deleted> in this instance. (<deleted> is a humorous word for testicles in English)

You want a gun because you just want a gun, and that's it really, I can practically guarantee that your wife doesn't want one for self protection and has probably filled in the paperwork under sufferance.

Copal that (sic) with the well reported facts that most crimes of house theft in Thailand occur when you aren't actually there or are asleep and don't get the chance to wake up before the deed is done, having a shotgun propped up in a corner, or in a nice display cabinet, is seriously a bad move, a really bad move.

Now please, just admit it, you fancy having a gun to shoot small furry animals and other harmless recreational purposes (sat) .... you shouldn't be allowed to have one .... a catapult will suit you sir.

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It seems like ..........if my wife wanted to buy a gun (in her name) for self protection .............

it should'nt be posted on TV :o

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And I will ask the first question i asked again .... to the OP.... why do you want a gun?

It's a fairly simple question and if you can't answer it without beating around the bush about ammo availability and questioning gun laws ..... well, you shouldn't really be allowed to have one.

I want a gun for home protection. A copal of rounds in the air will scare off an intruder. Shooting an intruder would be of last resort. But this is off topic and would rather stick to where to buy a gun what price and what model..

Given the difference in tone between your first post and then this one, please excuse me for saying that I think you are talking utter <deleted> in this instance. (<deleted> is a humorous word for testicles in English)

You want a gun because you just want a gun, and that's it really, I can practically guarantee that your wife doesn't want one for self protection and has probably filled in the paperwork under sufferance.

Copal that (sic) with the well reported facts that most crimes of house theft in Thailand occur when you aren't actually there or are asleep and don't get the chance to wake up before the deed is done, having a shotgun propped up in a corner, or in a nice display cabinet, is seriously a bad move, a really bad move.

Now please, just admit it, you fancy having a gun to shoot small furry animals and other harmless recreational purposes (sat) .... you shouldn't be allowed to have one .... a catapult will suit you sir.

In actuality it was my wife father who suggested the idea to purchase a gun for self defense and I thought it was a good idea. No the gun is not for him and will not be made available to him.

Now let me ask you this. The land you live on and the home you live in is that in your name or your wife name? although I don’t know you I would bet that most farang who live in Issan live in a home they paid for but do not own. Is this legal?

I would love to go hunting furry animals if there are areas legal to do so. I would how ever not go hunting with a hand gun. This might be a good new post to ask where this is possible.

I don’t want to go off topic any more on this but I will be happy to debate/discuss this if you pm me. For now in this forum I will only discuss GUNS and where to get them for a good price.

Cheers

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And I will ask the first question i asked again .... to the OP.... why do you want a gun?

It's a fairly simple question and if you can't answer it without beating around the bush about ammo availability and questioning gun laws ..... well, you shouldn't really be allowed to have one.

I want a gun for home protection. A copal of rounds in the air will scare off an intruder. Shooting an intruder would be of last resort. But this is off topic and would rather stick to where to buy a gun what price and what model..

Given the difference in tone between your first post and then this one, please excuse me for saying that I think you are talking utter <deleted> in this instance. (<deleted> is a humorous word for testicles in English)

You want a gun because you just want a gun, and that's it really, I can practically guarantee that your wife doesn't want one for self protection and has probably filled in the paperwork under sufferance.

Copal that (sic) with the well reported facts that most crimes of house theft in Thailand occur when you aren't actually there or are asleep and don't get the chance to wake up before the deed is done, having a shotgun propped up in a corner, or in a nice display cabinet, is seriously a bad move, a really bad move.

Now please, just admit it, you fancy having a gun to shoot small furry animals and other harmless recreational purposes (sat) .... you shouldn't be allowed to have one .... a catapult will suit you sir.

In actuality it was my wife father who suggested the idea to purchase a gun for self defense and I thought it was a good idea. No the gun is not for him and will not be made available to him.

Now let me ask you this. The land you live on and the home you live in is that in your name or your wife name? although I don’t know you I would bet that most farang who live in Issan live in a home they paid for but do not own. Is this legal?

I would love to go hunting furry animals if there are areas legal to do so. I would how ever not go hunting with a hand gun. This might be a good new post to ask where this is possible.

I don’t want to go off topic any more on this but I will be happy to debate/discuss this if you pm me. For now in this forum I will only discuss GUNS and where to get them for a good price.

Cheers

Good on you Amsterdam :D

though I'm afraid some still want to discuss your father in law :D ........

yeah it aint easy :o

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In actuality it was my wife father who suggested the idea to purchase a gun for self defense and I thought it was a good idea. No the gun is not for him and will not be made available to him.

He probably already has one,

Now let me ask you this. The land you live on and the home you live in is that in your name or your wife name? although I don’t know you I would bet that most farang who live in Issan live in a home they paid for but do not own.

Correct, but a roof over your head is a basic necessity. (and the way you phrased that question is a good indicator that you have not spent that that much time here, here being Isaan)

I don’t want to go off topic any more on this but I will be happy to debate/discuss this if you pm me.

I'd prefer not to thanks, I don't think that anyone should own a gun for recreational purposes if it is to be used outside of a recreational facility, you do, on that we will never agree, so there is no point.

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In actuality it was my wife father who suggested the idea to purchase a gun for self defense and I thought it was a good idea. No the gun is not for him and will not be made available to him.

He probably already has one,

Now let me ask you this. The land you live on and the home you live in is that in your name or your wife name? although I don’t know you I would bet that most farang who live in Issan live in a home they paid for but do not own.

Correct, but a roof over your head is a basic necessity. (and the way you phrased that question is a good indicator that you have not spent that that much time here, here being Isaan)

I don’t want to go off topic any more on this but I will be happy to debate/discuss this if you pm me.

I'd prefer not to thanks, I don't think that anyone should own a gun for recreational purposes if it is to be used outside of a recreational facility, you do, on that we will never agree, so there is no point.

I told you.......... :D .....well I'll stick to my swords.......and let my wife practise to hit bulls eye! :o

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