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Discovery About Udon Girlfriend's Gender

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Ive seen a couple of photos of Old Ladyboys around 70 years old in a book I just finished about the lives of Ladyboys. They just looked like old demure Thai ladies to me. Sweet smiles and kind eyes.

In addition, with modern medical technology and hormone therapies, which were unavailable to earlier generations of lady-boys, they should be able to "keep up appearances" much better and longer than their "fore-sisters."

That being said, you still have the basic issue of a person who endocrine system is biologically male, cosmetically and hormonally altered to appear feminine, still aging as a man while at the same time still attempting to outwardly appear feminine. [Did I get that right!] This can become very challenging as the aging process takes hold and would become less successful as the years progressed.

All that being said, most Thai women over 30 don't look that great either...so it's sorta pick your poison :o

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Do what you want to do!

Friend of mine in Pattaya, works bar, ladyboy, cant afford to get operation. Your girl is at Uni and has had it done well, that costs money, are the family wealthy?

Dont believe that you met girl in Isaan, who was your first, and a ladyboy ... how did you meet etc.

So do what you want to do. You will anyway. Why bother us with your weird ideas of Isaan girls.

Marry her or dont, UP TO YOU. Yawn

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You are both SO very young, 'conventional' relationships often dont pan out in the end even if started with the best intentions, so try not to think so far into the future. If you feel you have found the right mate i say just put the past behind and live life as you would with any woman. If you drift apart over the years for whatever reason, be it feeling no longer attracted or whatever, then thats just another normal factor in life and can happen in any relationship.

One thing i suggest, if you do decide to give it a shot, is to completely remove from your mind that she was ever a man. She was always a woman. Please dont use that as ammunition in an argument or as an excuse to break up later down the line. I think that would be difficult for her to handle and unfair.

I also admire Lazeeboy for being open and honest about his own experience and that he and his lady are very happy.

Again, good luck Svenn.

Yes, this is the approach I think is best.

She hates ladyboys/katoeys and hates gays even more

Sorry to hear s/he is a hater.

By Thai definition, she is a katoey. So she hates herself? That is sad. She is definitely a woman in a man's body, and she fixed her body. But I think she needs counseling.

More evidence that transgender people and regular homosexuals are NOT the same thing.

I spoke to hastily, she doesn't really HATE them so much as she is not interested in them and tries to stay away from them. She really views herself as 100% woman and katoeys, at least the ones that advertise themselves a lot or lapse into being a man when they're angry, are not the type of people she identifies with. She gets up early, washes clothes, makes food, does her hair and always restrains herself, never trying to show a lot of emotion like many ladyboys or ladies do. Yes, she has zero in common with gays and actually does dislike them, maybe just because they are often a hassle in rural Isaan.

All that being said, most Thai women over 30 don't look that great either...so it's sorta pick your poison :o

:D that's actually true isn't it, good point. Once they're over 35 they do seem to look kind of bitter and tired...

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Do what you want to do!

Friend of mine in Pattaya, works bar, ladyboy, cant afford to get operation. Your girl is at Uni and has had it done well, that costs money, are the family wealthy?

Dont believe that you met girl in Isaan, who was your first, and a ladyboy ... how did you meet etc.

So do what you want to do. You will anyway. Why bother us with your weird ideas of Isaan girls.

Marry her or dont, UP TO YOU. Yawn

Why the hel_l would I lie on a frik'n anonymous forum? If she wasn't my first and only I assume I would have known there was something different about her when we had sex. Yes she is at uni part time and has family with money, we're both in our twenties. It's people that have narrow, stereotypical experiences in thailand, and assume everyone else must too, that we should be yawning at.

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Do you love her? or Are you worried about what she will look like in 10 or 20 years? Ladyboys are normal in Thailand. Thais dont have issues. What do you want from the forum?

Gays are a hassle in rural Isaan? Not here, the one in our village is a good bloke (yes he is the only...etc etc, but we are only a small village).

If you are happy, marry her. If you want people to know, talk to everyone about it, if you dont ...dont!

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I just don't know what happens to ladyboys when they get old, anyone know? Do a lot change back to men, or do some just keep on with everyday life as a lady?

There is a famous one on TV, she also does freelance as a makeup artist (makes a fairly nice living doing so), and did the makeup for the wife and some of her gal pals for the morning ceremony of my wedding. An excellent makeup artist, but IMO a rather moody and somewhat unbalanced individual. She took an hour getting into the "mood" to do makeup, all the while chain smoking and complaining about everything in the world it seemed... like a bitter expat.

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maybe 2 or 3 years ago the BBC ran a series called "Bangkok Bound" each episode was 2 or 3 stories about people connected in some way to Thailand, one such story was about a guy who like the poster met a girl who turned out to be a guy, anyway, end of story was they stayed together and ran a bar in some tourist area of Thailand both very happy, if it feels right then do it.

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So, what's your problem?? You say there is no Hard feelings toward her(?) She was honest enough to tell you the truth, which is a bit on the rear side for most Thai lover. No I don't think you are stupid; of all the hormones changes that you say he when thru it would have been difficult for a season pro to know the prior gender. My guess and best wish is this a Blessing in disguise for you. Best of Luck!! :o:D

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The more I read the more I doubt the story is actually true. How do you go through to you 20's without knowing that a girl gets wet when aroused? Or has a period? This seems like a troll to me.

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The more I read the more I doubt the story is actually true. How do you go through to you 20's without knowing that a girl gets wet when aroused? Or has a period? This seems like a troll to me.

I knew about these things, I just assumed she had some medical condition, like she told me, that stopped periods (premature menopause or something, I don't know). With getting wet, I actually didn't know that much about that, and just assumed her body didn't give out a lot of water or something. I'm a nerd, not a ladies' man or frequenter of brothels, so I wasn't as keen on these things as other guys my age. I'm not alone, lazeeboy had the same experience, it's easy to hide these things.

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The more I read the more I doubt the story is actually true. How do you go through to you 20's without knowing that a girl gets wet when aroused? Or has a period? This seems like a troll to me.

Finally someone has caught on. ...and for my next post - "whoes that clip clopping over my bridge?"

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that's actually true isn't it, good point. Once they're over 35 they do seem to look kind of bitter and tired...

Well my wifes over 35 & she looks neither bitter nor tired!

Fact; irregardless of any cosmetic changes, your 'girlfriend' is a man, a very, very effiminate man, but a man non the less.

As has been said, your entire relationship is based on deciet. On the other side of the coin; IF at sometime in the future, you had a son (obviously not with your 'present' partner:) AND he came to you one day & told you he was gay; what would you do? Stop loving & caring for your child & disown him?

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any post which isn't insanely boring is apparently a troll here. As someone pointed out, these things really happen, so it makes not one bit of difference if this particular OP is real or not.

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where is bambina when needed... a post op transgender lady veterinarian.... as far as im concerned, she is a she...

just a short story: my daughter has a friend from back in high school who considered herself as a boy; she changed her name, dressed as a metrosexual male, started taking hormones, and is now going to the states to do a breast removal... when she /he comes to visit, it already seems totatlly natural to remember that y. is a he. and in our language male or female is defined. there is no ambiguous 'it', and he uses the masculine form of speech. so he is now a he. not sure about what he will do with army service here though...

funny and witty, and sarcastic as a male, as he was as a girl in high school. just happier.

bina

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