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Drug Abuse, Prostitution Still Thailands Woes

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If memory serves me correctly, one of Achaan Phasuk's earlier works published by the ILO, From Peasant Girls to Bangkok Masseuse, noted that, and hold on to your hats, that at the time of publishing (1982) that 30% of all women in Thailand between the ages of 15 and 50, or there about as I have not read the book in decades, had at one time or another worked in the sex industry. And within that industry only about 10% worked with the foreign tourists while the other 90% worked with local and regional clients. I would imagine that with the rise of the middle class over the intervening decades that the per cent of Thai women having worked in the industry has dropped a bit. But I would also imagine that with the regional importation of women from across the borders to replace the Thai women, that the percentage of foreign to regional business has remained the same. The Thai media as well as the international media always like to focus on the foreign, especially Farang customer base, especially when it comes to child prostitution. It is all a smoke screen to avoid looking into the mirror.

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Wow! 48,000 people working in the sex industry. Was that just within a 1 Kilometre radius of Walking St, Pattaya?

or did they include Soi Cowboy and Nana? What a ridiculous figure!

And 44%, that means 21000 are aged between 13 and 16?????????????

Who was it who said there are lies, damned lies and statistics? :D

You are referring to the great Samuel Langhorne Clemens (November 30, 1835 – April 21, 1910),[1] better known by the pen name Mark Twain...

Enjoy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain

:o

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"BANGKOK: -- The country is suffering from widespread drug abuse and a rising number of young male prostitutes..."

A rising number of male prostitutes, heaven forbid. Female prostitues... well yea, thats Ok and welcomed....

Thai logic at its best again.

You have got to love this place

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When talking with Thai regarding prostitution, I usually get the answer that these women are doing this job by choice, they serve a social purpose, protecting honest women from men basic instincts (men should not be blamed, boys will always be boys) and the problem, if problem there is, is mostly a foreigners problem, just look at patpong and pattaya.

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Furthermore, every big western city has is red light district, so why foreigners always try to put Thailand down ?

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When talking with Thai regarding prostitution, I usually get the answer that these women are doing this job by choice, they serve a social purpose, protecting honest women from men basic instincts (men should not be blamed, boys will always be boys) and the problem, if problem there is, is mostly a foreigners problem, just look at patpong and pattaya.

Rightyo Issan women are not honest, but do a public service,

so 'good honest women' need not service their men enough to keep them happy.

But the obvious Thai controled zones of western targeted prostitution are bad;

Why? Because they are farangs and so not as good as dishonest Issan service providers.

No mention as to the fact Patpong, Nana Pataya and the like are where a BIGGER price is

charged by those willing. ie shorter time, less work load, and better pay for the 'willing' girls.

No mention that the hi so people support the kleptocracy that keeps most of Issan poor,

and incidentally makes a huge profit off most of this indirectly.

Yes there are red light districts in MOST countries,

but NOTHING approaching the size and breadth of Thailand's scene.

If you think the farang Thai market is big, you've never really looked at the 100% Thai scene.

But blame the farangs they are leading all our poor honest women astray

with bigger budgets and 'tools' to if rumor be true LOL.

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But blame the farangs they are leading all our poor honest women astray

with bigger budgets and 'tools' to if rumor be true LOL.

You miss my point here. Falangs blame Thailand for prostitution but at the same time Falangs are responsible for the most visible part of prostitution in Thailand (as far as foreign medias are concerned). If the falangs are not happy with prostitution, they should clean their act first because as far as Thai are concerned, there is no prostitution problem in Thailand.

Agreed, there is hypocrisy on both sides. But,as it is a farang forum, I believe we should clean our acts first.

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Furthermore, every big western city has is red light district, so why foreigners always try to put Thailand down ?

Becoz 'Thailand' in the eyes of the West, iz THE Red Light Distric' ov the worl' Parrot. Still a bit fick aren' yoo? :D

By the way. You related to that other prik PettyChevvy? You're a lot alike :o

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You ask any Westerner what first comes to mind in regards to Thailand or Bangkok and I assure you that the majority of answers will be the pervasive sex industry. The numbers quoted in the article are awfully low IMHO. Thailand is so synonymous with prostitution that it has a large page on Wikipedia on this subject alone. Wikipedia article Prostitution in Thailand It's worth a read.

Edited by gunnyd

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Furthermore, every big western city has is red light district, so why foreigners always try to put Thailand down ?

Becoz 'Thailand' in the eyes of the West, iz THE Red Light Distric' ov the worl' Parrot. Still a bit fick aren' yoo? :D

By the way. You related to that other prik PettyChevvy? You're a lot alike :o

Edited : not worth it.

Edited by Pierrot

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I have lived on 3 continents

traveled to 16 or 17 countries, lost track

lived in 3-4 large to world class great cities

and several smaller cities.

I think I have visited two dozen MAJOR cities.

And made a point of exploring them with and without guides.

There is NO PLACE on the planet that I have seen

that had as wide open, in your face, and HUGE like a

900lb gorilla in the corner, sex business as exist JUST in Bangkok.

I have also seen a dozen + cities in Thailand.

There are two levels of this in Thailand.

That more discrete, but clearly LARGER Thai on Thai industry

And the blatantly direct marketed 'here's where you go' visiter's industry.

The former dewarfs the later.

The HUGE places on big roads, among others, have big group rooms

and several bedrooms off it. For that up scale Thai male / male bonding experience

with girls between rounds of Sangsom. This is all over BKK and in smaller

kariokes in the country, rarely is EVER a farang to be found. If so, just one

and he's there bonding for business reasons, and feeling really out of place,

no doubt. But that's the way it's done.

Like communal baths in Japan, followed be enough sake to sink the Bismark.

One need only be riding in a taxis and look in on any given evening and

see the types and numbers of clientel.

What is more obvious externally is the write homes about the farang direct sales.

Prostitution is so prevalent across the country, why not make MORE money

selling to the imported punters. It's just another market with special needs,

and a good markup. But isn't the bread and butter business.

It IS a good place for those with blinkers on, to lay blame and deflect face loss.

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every big western city has is red light district,

Every city? Do tell. Where is the red light district in Chicago? St. Louis? Minneapolis? Phoenix?

so why foreigners always try to put Thailand down ?

I wouldn't go so far as to say "always," but in many cases because it is about 1000% easier to be abruptly and self-righteously judgmental than to be tolerant and understanding of all the factors involved.

I would also speculate that most (western) foreigners have absolutely no clue of how rampant the sex trade is through every single Pacific Rim and ASEAN country. Thailand is simply the one that gets the most publicity and sterotyping. It just goes to show how narrow-minded many people are, not by intention perhaps, but just because of they way they live and where they get their information.

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Furthermore, every big western city has is red light district, so why foreigners always try to put Thailand down ?

Becuase The Thai make in value for money. So Farang keeps coming back for more (or for whore). :o:D:D

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Thailand has a big sex industry, yes.

Most Asian countries do. There economies don't create enough jobs for poorly educated, unskilled women who have been left with child by infantile alcoholic males.

And remember a great many of the western media's "sex industry" stories are from lazy journos who churn out the same moralistic drivel before they head off for a short time, and by dweeby academics who crunch numbers but have never shared pillow talk with a Thai.

Edited by johnnyk

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You ask any Westerner what first comes to mind in regards to Thailand or Bangkok and I assure you that the majority of answers will be the pervasive sex industry. The numbers quoted in the article are awfully low IMHO. Thailand is so synonymous with prostitution that it has a large page on Wikipedia on this subject alone. Wikipedia article Prostitution in Thailand It's worth a read.

Great Reference Gunnyd!

Thanks! Well worth reading...

Yep, I generally don't trust these "official Thai press releases" -- the Chula professor research noted in the Wikipedia article is interesting... Most farangs only see the tip of the tip of the iceberg on this... This phenomenon is deeply ingrained in Thai culture and is supported by many "Thai" factors -- poverty, low education, weak women's rights, weak employment, corruption, the history of slavery, polygamy, hierarchical social structure and the "kleptocracy" as one poster already mentioned...

Amazing Thailand -- the Land of Smiles :D

go out and do some of your own research....

Here's an idea... How about we all create a collective book on the subject?

I am SURE it would be much better than the trash that comes out of Thai official press conferences...

:o

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