bubba Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 PAD driving away police at Suvarnabhumi (BangkokPost.com) – Police who set up security checkpoints at Suvarnabhumi airport were overran by a handful of protesters led by the anti-government People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) on Saturday morning. The PAD mobilised more yellow-clad protesters to drive the police out of the airport. The protesters destroyed police vehicles, including inmate trucks, and blockaded the motorway to Suvarnabhumi. After the Emergency Decree was enforced in Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang airports, police were deployed to the motorway and set up security checkpoints to stop more demonstrators from entering Suvarnabhumi. However, the operation fell short as the police could not resist the anti-government raid. Besides, the protesters were able to take back their knives and rods seized by the authorities earlier. So far in today's test match: PAD Yellowshirts: 1 Kingdom of Thailand Keystone Cops: 0 http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/b...s.php?id=132365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CockneyGit Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Of course possible that some supporter by their own help some people who want to go there, so their families has money for food. But for sure no official buying people. The main ingredient for good comedy...... ....timing! Thanks for that, I needed a little boost this morning...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Does anyone have a link to live bbc world news? I've only got CNN and it seems they can't remove themselves from Mumbai. The tragedy that that is, there are a lot of other stories in the world. I'd be surprised if the BBC was any better. During the Tsunami, my hotel in Patong only got the BBC, and it was non-stop reporting on India. Barely any mention of Thailand, Indonesia, Sumatra, etc. Al Jazeera have a reporter at the airport but still mainly on Mumbai. The reporter estimates PAD numbers have doubled since the start with more coming in to enjoy the weekend. And it doesn't seem like the police are about to move in any time soon. http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yes, a simple visit to the PAD at Government House before this week would put paid to the myths and misinformation that seems to be rampant on thaivisa.com. "Paid rent-a-protestors!" Sounds slick when you say it quickly, but it has no validity, just noise. To add: most people made pictures of themself or movies and most of their cameras were not the cheap 3000 Baht model. You could see clearly that these are not the poor one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I think it would be wise to not consider ASTV a 'news source', for posts here or otherwise.Also the 'live feed' shows what their spin doctors want you to see. Stick with the BBC. The problem with the BBC is it tends to be several hours out of date and then inaccurate at best! Yes agree, you get much 'newer' news on Al Jazerra BBC has the same news 4 or 5 hours later, it happens time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatt2dude Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The PAD mobilised more yellow-clad protesters to drive the police out of the airport. The protesters destroyed police vehicles, including inmate trucks, and blockaded the motorway to Suvarnabhumi. Interesting. The PAD I saw in the BBC report were clad in black, balaclava's the lot...... very menacing. In the interest of anti-corruption and what is right, I take it the leaders of the PAD will be stepping forward once this is over..... whatever the outcome...... to face the music and do their "time" for what amounts to an act of terrorism. Anything else would surely be in contradiction of their own protest. We would not want anyone to avoid prosecution of their crimes through influence and manipulation would we? That is of course if hijacking an International airport is actually a crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) Post have been removed. While taking Mr Taksin out of the equation may or may not be the answer to this problem, advocating the death of another human being is not what Thai Visa internet forum is about. No more assasinations, mossads, CIA's or the like please. Cool it down people. Edited November 29, 2008 by soundman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Chamlong says crisis will end before Dec 5 Chamlong Srimaung, a co-leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, said Saturday that the political crisis would end before Friday. He said he was willing to hold talk with Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat anywhere except Chiang Mai because it is too far away. Source: The Nation - 29 November 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 He said he was willing to hold talk with Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat anywhere except Chiang Mai because it is too far away.Source: The Nation - 29 November 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauKarl Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) Does this look like people who will go away without a battle? Even if the Pm steps down, what will their next demand be before they would actually leave peacefully? Edited November 29, 2008 by BeauKarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Thaksin demands PAD to leave Suvarnabhumi Ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra expressed concern over Thailand’s political situation and demanded the anti-government People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) to leave Suvarnabhumi airport immediately. While giving a press interview abroad, Mr Thaksin said the airport must resume operation and the PAD demonstrators must abide by the law and respect others who have been affected. Those who violated the law must be prosecuted, he added. The former premier called on all sides, including the army, to unite and help protect democracy because Thai people have suffered since dictatorship came in the country. More from the Bangkok Post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Thaksin demands PAD to leave Suvarnabhumi Ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra expressed concern over Thailand’s political situation and demanded the anti-government People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) to leave Suvarnabhumi airport immediately. While giving a press interview abroad, Mr Thaksin said the airport must resume operation and the PAD demonstrators must abide by the law and respect others who have been affected. Those who violated the law must be prosecuted, he added. The former premier called on all sides, including the army, to unite and help protect democracy because Thai people have suffered since dictatorship came in the country. More from the Bangkok Post here. This guy should be on stage. Is it possible to measure the wealth of a man by the number of bounty's on his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Thaksin demands PAD to leave Suvarnabhumi Ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra expressed concern over Thailand’s political situation and demanded the anti-government People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) to leave Suvarnabhumi airport immediately. While giving a press interview abroad, Mr Thaksin said the airport must resume operation and the PAD demonstrators must abide by the law and respect others who have been affected. Those who violated the law must be prosecuted, he added. The former premier called on all sides, including the army, to unite and help protect democracy because Thai people have suffered since dictatorship came in the country. More from the Bangkok Post here. Surely the comment about abiding by the law is part of a late night comedy skit Anyway we now know who is calling the shots at Chaing mai High Command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Thaksin demands PAD to leave Suvarnabhumi It is very obvious now he is running this muppet government. The wanted criminal making demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xangsamhua Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 PAD driving away police at Suvarnabhumi So far in today's test match: PAD Yellowshirts: 1 Kingdom of Thailand Keystone Cops: 0 It's not a case of Keystone Cops, but of police who have no faith in their commanders and are unwilling to put themselves on the line for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravelrash Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 If the police can't evict the PAD then that really is it for the inept government. As a seize power at any cost move by the PAD it has been quite a clever strategy as they have the army on side. In reality this is a another coup, but by insurgency rather than via the usual army. No doubt the country and economy will take years to recover from this but as in any situation where there is a power play for control of a country the power brokers from opposing sides really don't care. If more violence ensues later in response to this then Thailand may have done itself immeasurable damage. PAD supporters here should consider that a victory in a battle isn't always what it seems, you can sometimes win the war but lose the peace. Sadly the usual military coup would probably have caused less damage. What remains to be seen is whether after the dust settles the PAD will have managed to split the country further. There is already an insurrection in the south, are they now going to disenfranchise (as they have threatened) and alienate the north and northeast? Thailand is more than just Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungryhippo Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 advocating the death of another human being is not what Thai Visa internet forum is about. It's interesting you say this because over the weeks I have read nothing but calls on this forum for the death of PAD protesters with no action taken against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Chamlong says crisis will end before Dec 5Chamlong Srimaung, a co-leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, said Saturday that the political crisis would end before Friday. He said he was willing to hold talk with Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat anywhere except Chiang Mai because it is too far away. Source: The Nation - 29 November 2008 Unbelievable Chamlong is goading Somchai now. Will he leave his Chiang Mai redoubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabbo-Lad Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Thaksin demands PAD to leave Suvarnabhumi Ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra expressed concern over Thailand’s political situation and demanded the anti-government People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) to leave Suvarnabhumi airport immediately. While giving a press interview abroad, Mr Thaksin said the airport must resume operation and the PAD demonstrators must abide by the law and respect others who have been affected. Those who violated the law must be prosecuted, he added. The former premier called on all sides, including the army, to unite and help protect democracy because Thai people have suffered since dictatorship came in the country. More from the Bangkok Post here. Absolutely priceless. SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Just seen the other side of the "peaceful" protesters on BBC clad in black with face masks and carrying weapons - bodes well- not! The overall description - insurgency - "n. an organized movement aimed at the overthrow of a constituted government through use of subversion and armed conflict." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitele Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Does this look like people who will go away without a battle? Even if the Pm steps down, what will their next demand be before they would actually leave peacefully? Let's get ready to rumble!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 PAD guards detain policeman Guards of the People's Alliance for Democracy detained a police senior sergeant major Saturday morning. Pol Senior Sgt Maj Sompop Nathee, an officer from the Border Patrol Police Region 1 was arrested when he rode a motorcycle to a scene where police crashed with protesters at a police checkpoint on Kingkaew Road. Sompop was taken to be questioned by Samran Rodphet, a leader of the PAD. Samran ordered the guards to continue to detain the police officer after the questioning. Sompop told Samran tht he happed to drive his car past the Kingkaew checkpoint when the clash occurred and he was forced to retreat along with other policemen. He later decided to ride a taxi motorcycle to the spot to retrieve his car but found that it had been damaged by the protesters. He was captured by the PAD guards at the spot. When PAD guards took him to Samran inside the Suvarnabhumi Airport, reporters and photographers tried to follow him to interview and take photos but the guards and other protesters booed at the newsmen and did not allow them to follow the guards. Source: The Nation - 29 November 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Need to remove the PAD from the airport by any means possible... this isnt rocket science, this isnt that hard. -Cut power/water -blockade roads into the airport -rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons -jam mobile phones Overwhelm them with a superior force. If you need to use force do so - after warning them what will come if they do not disperse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Airport Activists Capture Copper Anti-government protesters in Thailand have taken a police officer captive as tensions at an airport standoff escalate. The trouble occured when 1,000 activists moved in on a police checkpoint close to the Suvarnabhumi international airport in Bangkok, seized on Tuesday. The advance triggered a confrontation that subsided without violence when the police hastily withdrew. However, one remaining officer was grabbed by protesters, put in a vehicle, and driven away, international reporters said. The kidnapping intensifies fears that the four-day airport siege will end in violence, despite the Thai prime minister earlier pledging to use peaceful methods to resolve the issue. Thousands of travellers remain stranded in the country's capital with all civilian air traffic blocked. Both protesters and police reinforced their presence at Suvarnabhumi international airport, prior to the officer's capture. Earlier, more protesters arrived at the airport in cars and buses despite road blocks set up by police, boosting their number to several thousand. "Today, we see blood with our eyes. We will fight," said Sondhi Limthongkul, protest leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy. "At this moment, there is no way we will negotiate." Protesters are demanding the resignation of the government it accuses of being a puppet of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Shinawatra, who recently relinquished control of Manchester City football club, was ousted by a 2006 military coup and fled overseas to escape corruption charges. Current prime minister Somchai Wongsawat, Shinawatra's brother-in-law, declared a state of emergency at Suvarnabhumi and at the smaller Don Muang domestic airport, also occupied by demonstrators. But in a televised address on Friday night he said: "Do not be concerned. The security forces will use peaceful means. "There will be negotiations and whatever else which is appropriate in the situation." Mr Wongsawat also demoted the national police chief amid speculation he disagreed with government policy. The failure to end the illegal airport closures has led to calls in the media for Mr Wongsawat to step down, even from those who oppose the protesters. Source: Sky News - 29 November 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Need to remove the PAD from the airport by any means possible... this isnt rocket science, this isnt that hard. -Cut power/water -blockade roads into the airport -rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons -jam mobile phones Overwhelm them with a superior force. If you need to use force do so - after warning them what will come if they do not disperse. there does n't seem to be any back bone for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Just seen the other side of the "peaceful" protesters on BBC clad in black with face masks and carrying weapons - bodes well- not!The overall description - insurgency - "n. an organized movement aimed at the overthrow of a constituted government through use of subversion and armed conflict." That is how Jonathan Head described the protesters. He did mention as well that his information was from his government sources. His admission about his sources doesn't give a lot of credibility to his reporting, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Need to remove the PAD from the airport by any means possible... this isnt rocket science, this isnt that hard. -Cut power/water -blockade roads into the airport -rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons -jam mobile phones Overwhelm them with a superior force. If you need to use force do so - after warning them what will come if they do not disperse. there does n't seem to be any back bone for it though. If I'm not mistaken, the utility companies have backed the PAD's cause for awhile now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Police/Army can cut this off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkom Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 PAD guards detain policemanGuards of the People's Alliance for Democracy detained a police senior sergeant major Saturday morning. Pol Senior Sgt Maj Sompop Nathee, an officer from the Border Patrol Police Region 1 was arrested when he rode a motorcycle to a scene where police crashed with protesters at a police checkpoint on Kingkaew Road. Sompop was taken to be questioned by Samran Rodphet, a leader of the PAD. Samran ordered the guards to continue to detain the police officer after the questioning. Sompop told Samran tht he happed to drive his car past the Kingkaew checkpoint when the clash occurred and he was forced to retreat along with other policemen. He later decided to ride a taxi motorcycle to the spot to retrieve his car but found that it had been damaged by the protesters. He was captured by the PAD guards at the spot. When PAD guards took him to Samran inside the Suvarnabhumi Airport, reporters and photographers tried to follow him to interview and take photos but the guards and other protesters booed at the newsmen and did not allow them to follow the guards. Source: The Nation - 29 November 2008 Does anyone see anything wrong with this article? The PAD arrested a Police Senior Sergeant, shouldn't it be the other way around where the police arrest the PAD? And when they took him back to be "questioned", reporters and and camera men where not allowed to follow. It just shows that the PAD has no respect for the law and think that can whatever they please. But I'm curious to know if when push comes to shove where will Sondhi Limtongkul, Chamlong Srimuang and the other leaders of the PAD will be if there will bloodshed. I'm sure they will be safely hiding behind there puppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astor Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Need to remove the PAD from the airport by any means possible... this isnt rocket science, this isnt that hard. -Cut power/water -blockade roads into the airport -rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons -jam mobile phones Overwhelm them with a superior force. If you need to use force do so - after warning them what will come if they do not disperse. I agree, the police behavior is very shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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