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Home Builders/house Builders Isaan - A Success Story

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If you're looking for professional help about the landscaping, send me a PM. I am in KK.

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Sunsamourai

Sure I will let you know as I`m looking to buy some land next to the house as I used most of this plot to make the house as big as possible. Have you got any photos of work done in the past?

Thanks.

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Hi All

Slightly off topic , I am looking for a builder to do a renovation job in Udon Thani on a terrace house.

Strip out ceilings,new gypsum ceilings,painting ,install new bathrooms,tiling, repair work etc. Nothing too fancy.

Can any members recommend anyone for decent workmanship at reasonable rates ?

Thanks for help/ suggestions

Nirvana

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Cheers BigSnake yes both were above standard.

Super Design, looks great, hope the quality and service are up to standard. :o:D

Nirvana I will let you know if they can do work in Udon I had to travel last week.

Hi All

Slightly off topic , I am looking for a builder to do a renovation job in Udon Thani on a terrace house.

Strip out ceilings,new gypsum ceilings,painting ,install new bathrooms,tiling, repair work etc. Nothing too fancy.

Can any members recommend anyone for decent workmanship at reasonable rates ?

Thanks for help/ suggestions

Nirvana

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My wife had her family build a concrete block perimeter wall for our Buriram Province land parcel PRIOR to a few hundred loads of dirt being trucked into the plot to raise the ground level. After the home was built we had a local Buriram stainless steel fence fabricator install a rolling gate for vehicles and hinged gate for people. That local firm also installed stainless steel atop the front cement block fence. I did not want to have a fence similar to the embassy compounds in Bangkok. Money considerations at this point in the construction "process" were a major consideration, but #1 was a fence topping that would hinder potential intruders or give them pause to consider a different "softer" target. The cost of window bars was prohibitive in our situation, and metal security doors of decent quality on exterior doors really would add up to a significant sum of money.

So I looked at the web site of Wasp Security and a different electric fence company in Thailand. I got written price quotes from both firms. I met in person with Mike Rust the owner of Wasp Security in Bangkok at his small office workshop near a BTS station to see the actual products he sells. He had sent me a firm price quote in advance of this meeting and no effort was attempted to "up sell" and change the bid price. I had previously e-mailed to him photos of our existing cement block fence along with accurate linear measurements so he and the other firm could make an accurate price bid.

Prior to installation Mike and his Thai installation manager came to our Buriram Province home to look at the fencing and gates we had installed. They also double checked how the fence would be powered, where the siren and alarm connections would interface and how to properly deal with "difficult" corners. He also double checked the paint colors for the metal posts to coordinate with our existing painted fence.

On the scheduled day his three man crew of polite, clean, courteous installers arrived and for the next three days did a 100% professional installation. My wife was happy to feed his crew lunch as she said they were more considerate and cleaner than any other sub contractor we had on site in the past twelve months of home construction. After a complete testing of the system the staff took the time to explain to my wife and our maid how to properly use the system. The written instructions for the made in Brazil controller was in English. Mike easily and completely answered my few remaining questions over the phone.

9 months later there have been no malfunctions, only one false alarm due to a large tree branch falling onto the wires (they did not break) from a neighbor's tree. It was easy for us to figure out the cause of the alarm as we could see the tree branch. We also viewed how many neighbors came out to see the reason for the alarm sounding. This was not like the response to a car alarm siren in Los Angeles.

In our little town the electric supply from the Provincial Electricity Authority can be out for over five hours at a stretch, but the back up battery in our Electric fence has NEVER run out.

So for those with a cement block fence considering an Iron, stainless steel or barbed/razer wire topping I really think it is well worth your time to get a price quote from Wasp Security or another Electric Fence company in Thailand. The cost per linear foot is FAR LOWER than ordinary iron, and a small fraction of the cost of stainless steel topping. Our electric bill did NOT jump, but having an electric fence topping (legal) with proper signs in Thai gives us the freedom travel and leave the home empty with zero worries of attempted intruders.

The "math" worked simple for us: Which costs less: Cost of ordinary metal topping on the three sides of the property? Cost of the Electric fence topping for four sides? This did not even take into account the cost of any home windows or any doors to have security bars.

Here are photos of the electric fence on top of our side fence and on top of the front fence which already had stainless steel. We initially were concerned that our domestic pets might be accidentally shocked by the fence, but the cats do not go on top of the cement fence and our next door neighbor keeps his pet baby elephant away from the fence.

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Total cost including installation on 360 degrees of our just under one rai parcel, Wasp-Security installed 42 60cm powder coated posts with insulators, ten corner stays, fifteen 60 cm stainless steel posts, fourteen other posts or stays, copper coated grounding rod, fourteen warning signs, gate switch, 115 db siren, energizer/monitor/controller, remote control, all of the wire, cables, conduit, etc.. It took three men, three days to properly install the electric fence. The cost was below 90,000 baht. I paid a 40 % deposit and 60% when the installation was complete via bank transfer. It was easy to get a written price quote from both Electric fence companies once I e-mailed them our plot specifications and some photos of the existing cement block fence. Travel costs to Buriram from Bangkok was not a issue since the Wasp Security truck was a sensible Suzuki NGV or LPG powered vehicle.

For the Stainless steel fence I paid 82,500 baht (11 meters @ 7,500 baht per meter). I could have installed a cheaper grade of stainless and cheaper thinner posts, but this better quality Korean stainless worked out best for us. The maid is not fearful to clean the stainless steel fence if the electric fence is turned off. The 4.5 meter stainless steel gate was 50,625 baht of that grade/size/thickness Korean stainless steel.

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Total cost including installation on 360 degrees of our just under one rai parcel, Wasp-Security installed 42 60cm powder coated posts with insulators, ten corner stays, fifteen 60 cm stainless steel posts, fourteen other posts or stays, copper coated grounding rod, fourteen warning signs, gate switch, 115 db siren, energizer/monitor/controller, remote control, all of the wire, cables, conduit, etc.. It took three men, three days to properly install the electric fence. The cost was below 90,000 baht. I paid a 40 % deposit and 60% when the installation was complete via bank transfer. It was easy to get a written price quote from both Electric fence companies once I e-mailed them our plot specifications and some photos of the existing cement block fence. Travel costs to Buriram from Bangkok was not a issue since the Wasp Security truck was a sensible Suzuki NGV or LPG powered vehicle.

For the Stainless steel fence I paid 82,500 baht (11 meters @ 7,500 baht per meter). I could have installed a cheaper grade of stainless and cheaper thinner posts, but this better quality Korean stainless worked out best for us. The maid is not fearful to clean the stainless steel fence if the electric fence is turned off. The 4.5 meter stainless steel gate was 50,625 baht of that grade/size/thickness Korean stainless steel.

Hi Bob the Builder

Nice job, mate.

Looks a very professionally fitted system.

I was wondering, have you thought if there was a way of an undesirable cutting your power supply and rendering the fence useless? Has it got battery back-up ?

Just one of my many obscure thoughts :o

Must come over to see you sometime.

Regards

Dave

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Funny guy Dave,

It sure is NOT "Bob the Builder", but Bob who PAID the builder and one or two sub contractors. "Upgrades, usually by my initiative, had a way of raising the cost of the home. Like ALL expats who have built a home in Thailand, it was not without it's moments of "doubt" and "surprises", but it all worked out. If all the subcontractors were as honorable, intelligent and truthful as the electric fence company I would have more hair and more baht. The largest frustration was sometimes not getting a prompt exactly correct translation of why a procedure was being done. Building a home is a real tough task for the Thai wife to translate and I can only imagine how difficult it must be for the Thai wives or girl friends being part of the "on the ground process" and the Expat paying the bills is back in his native country. But I think being a "fussy Farang" has real merit when you end up with a properly built home for a fraction of the cost a "already built in a housing estate by a developer" home of similar size and similar fittings would cost.

The Electric Fence does have a 12 volt rechargeable battery in the wall mounted control unit and even in recent lengthy power outages the fence is still active. We also posted a couple of signs in Thai with the universal picture of "do not cut electric or phone lines" that came with the alarm system. When the power goes out at our home the Panasonic "Stand-by Lights" go on automaticly.

When kids are swimming we turn off the electric fence.

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Hi

Thank for explaining that Bob.

It certainly seem to be a very good system and the house and garden are looking very nice BTW.

On a slightly related note, have you any idea where one can get a wifi alarm system, not too elaborate or complicated.

Its was asked of me from a mate who wants to 'wire-up' a few barns and I have no idea of a source??

Dave

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The 90 baht Thai Language home MAGAZINES such as "Room" or "Life and Home" have several advertisements in each issue for wireless alarm companies. I think there will be a wide selection of alarm companies with booths at the free Architect Expo that starts in late April at Impact in Bangkok. For me in selecting which security system firm, was the written "after sales service agreement" and length of warranty for a system they install in our rural area. Prices did vary widely for very similar equipment. We went for a wired system, but the wires were installed in PVC PRIOR to wall rendering.

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There was an article in the Bangkok Post the other day with the owner from Wasp-Security thanks for the info Bob very interesting.

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Off the top of my head I can`t remember the size exactly will let you know when I can find the drawings. The contract cost was 1.76 Baht then we did an upgrade of 200K with best materials for bathrooms and kitchen to have the finish we wanted.
do you have the contact details of the builder please I intend looking for builders at the end of this year in sakhonakhon area

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