imaneggspurt Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Well its obvious now he is in bkk ( or part of him ), perhaps Cath found out and this is the result of some love triangle ,. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nonsense.1. If he had hung himself then the body would be underneath. As far as I'm aware, it's a disembodied head. 2. The note stinks of Thai grammar (like "My fiend me") my money's on foul play(russian mafia)made to look like suicide.If he'd been heart broken from his teerak why not just take pills and booze,why go to all that trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiEye Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 In case anyone interested, in today's Khaosod newspaper, they have a close up of the guys head.http://www.matichon.co.th/khaosod/ Whatever is said about circumstances of this death is only pure speculation....Has anyone seen a clear close up picture ? As far as I know, the only two that we have seen do not show anything else than an unclear shot of a spheric shape hanging on a rope. My eyes are not too good, but , unless I missed something, it's all I have seen. I am sure that forensic will have much better elements to work on, and to give a more reliable explanation....To the poor lad who ended his life there, RIP......Hope that circumstances of your death will be explained Photo here link above,not to clear but I think if you new him you would recognise him from this photo. Yes, this is a clearer picture, that will be useful for identification purpose. But circumstances of death will not be discovered with this picture That handwriting is not a Thai person's - Thai people all have more or less the same style of joined up handwriting they learn at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Holy crap, I was at the bridge last night with my wife. What were you doing Hanging around the bridge last night? You may find that the Police want to speak with you? that's a good one ! Sorry, I don't follow what you mean I was also noting that someone appears to have left the BIB a bit of a 'lead' at the bridge. Seems at this time they should have the investigation 'in the bag'.....anyway, all speculation at this time, theres no definate way of knowing where this investigation is heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who, me ? Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Holy crap, I was at the bridge last night with my wife. What were you doing Hanging around the bridge last night? You may find that the Police want to speak with you? that's a good one ! Sorry, I don't follow what you mean I was also noting that someone appears to have left the BIB a bit of a 'lead' at the bridge. Seems at this time they should have the investigation 'in the bag'.....anyway, all speculation at this time, theres no definate way of knowing where this investigation is heading. I am convinced that you did not follow what I meant..... And your explanation of the situation is pretty well packed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 from the pics I saw to me seems a suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Sorry, but i dont like these joke comments being posted here in this above conversation. For me this isnt a story to laugh about.RIP No,you're right,it is a disgusting crime and certainly more prevalent in the south,then anything seen up this way. If in fact it is a crime....it may still possibly be a suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 The grisly discovery was made Sunday afternoon. So how long had it been swinging around there before somebody noticed it? Or had it been seen but was just ignored as just a piece of urban rubbish? It obviously took some time to hang it over the edge and write the note, assuming the note is connected with the head as it might be just some pointless graffiti, so unless it was done during the early hours of the morning many people must have passed that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) my money's on foul play(russian mafia)made to look like suicide.If he'd been heart broken from his teerak why not just take pills and booze,why go to all that trouble. Far too cinematic-the mafia does its best to stay in the shadows. A stunt like this would only attract unwanted attention. Terrorists want attention, but they would most likely have left a more decisive message. This may be the work of a sadist, but the message that was left has me thinking the person who wrote it had a connection to him. *edit* Have analyzed message, but too early make assumptions about it, my bad. Edited February 23, 2009 by Monroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 my money's on foul play(russian mafia)made to look like suicide.If he'd been heart broken from his teerak why not just take pills and booze,why go to all that trouble. Far too cinematic-the mafia does its best to stay in the shadows. A stunt like this would only attract unwanted attention. Terrorists want attention, but they would most likely have left a more decisive message. This may be the work of a sadist, but the message that was left has me thinking the person who wrote it had a connection to him. Should mention I've analyzed the message and I don't think it's an anagram or a code. You probably would of been better off not to share any of that with us....naturally you must have qualifications to support all of your good work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Foreigner Killed and Beheaded The head of an unknown foreigner was found hanging on the Rama 8 Bridge. The police will review footage from closed-circuit cameras in the area and are searching for witnesses who may help investigators in solving the case. Police officers from Bavornmongkol Police Station as well as forensic police came to inspect the head of an unknown Caucasian man thought to be between the ages of 30 and 40. The victim had been killed and beheaded before his head was hung on Rama 8 Bridge over the Chao Phraya River. Investigations found that his neck bone was disconnected and the victim had tear wounds on the back of his neck. Moreover, the skin on the back of his neck was tied to a nylon string. It is speculated that he had not been killed long ago. On the bridge railings where the victim's head was hung was the message "I want to but I cannot" and "I came to Bangkok to be you" were found. The police will carry out further investigations to see whether it is associated with the murder. The Bavornmongkol Police Station has cooperated with nearby police stations to determine in which area the victim was residing and whether there had been any witnesses. Also, the police will cooperate with the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration to ask for footage from the closed-circuit cameras in the Rama 8 Bridge area to determine the victim's identity, cause of death as well as the identity of the murderer before getting in contact with the embassy of the victim's country. - TOC / 2009-02-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 You probably would of been better off not to share any of that with us....naturally you must have qualifications to support all of your good work? Why would I need qualifications to post in a forum? I make posts hoping for constructive feedback. You post to expel as much garbage as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Not one mention of the word "suicide" in the latest news above. This is murder. Edited February 23, 2009 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 How is it that no one knows this person?The picture's pretty clear.I would have thought someone would recognize a farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 my money's on foul play(russian mafia)made to look like suicide.If he'd been heart broken from his teerak why not just take pills and booze,why go to all that trouble. Far too cinematic-the mafia does its best to stay in the shadows. A stunt like this would only attract unwanted attention. Terrorists want attention, but they would most likely have left a more decisive message. This may be the work of a sadist, but the message that was left has me thinking the person who wrote it had a connection to him. Should mention I've analyzed the message and I don't think it's an anagram or a code. You probably would of been better off not to share any of that with us....naturally you must have qualifications to support all of your good work? monroe,i should think the message is clear"dont <deleted> with us" imo the russian mafia are a law unto themselves(paying the police in vast sums of baht to allow their activities to go unhindered)looks to me like a message to others.but then im no sherlock holmes,more like clousseau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakeha Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Two options: suicide or foul play. Suicide: seems unlikely Foul play: a very serious message has been delivered to others out there. They know exactly who they are as they know the deceased and will never talk for obvious reasons. I doubt this one will ever be resolved unless certain high ups know something in which case it will absolutely be deemed a suicide. RIP. The truth won't come out in my opinion. Edit: option one ruled out. Edited February 23, 2009 by byoung2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 monroe,i should think the message is clear"dont <deleted> with us" imo the russian mafia are a law unto themselves(paying the police in vast sums of baht to allow their activities to go unhindered)looks to me like a message to others.but then im no sherlock holmes,more like clousseau Yeah, I know the type. Just being around them it almost feels like conventional law and logic no longer apply. So, I suppose it's best not to over-or-underestimate any group or individual. As of now, this isn't a high-profile murder. Though it could very well turn into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaks Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 You can see the mans face here..... http://www.rssthai.com/reader.php?t=local&r=13395 And that writing looks spooky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfbkk Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Who done it?Business partner? Romantic significant other? Terrorist? Political activist? Hired hit man by any of the above? Serial Killer? The makings of a novel but fact is stranger than fiction. I agree. Looking at this and the brutality behind that, this does not look Thai at all. Mafia Methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaks Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Who done it?Business partner? Romantic significant other? Terrorist? Political activist? Hired hit man by any of the above? Serial Killer? The makings of a novel but fact is stranger than fiction. I agree. Looking at this and the brutality behind that, this does not look Thai at all. Mafia Methods. I had to look twice at what you just wrote: 'This does not look Thai at all. Mafia methods.' Yeh of course Mafia gangs and the brutality that goes with them do not exist in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midasthailand Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Looking at his face in the picture I would opine that he was definitely murdered. Most likely drugged and then beheaded, why? His face has a look of contentment or serenity about it that is unlikely to be seen on the face when one leaps to ones death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknDanny Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I have never seen so much unbelievable hypotheses' in all my life. Talk about armchair detectives From decyphering messages to calling a death based on a 2X2 photograph. You guys are good All we have to go on right now is the Police Report. With the Police tendencies over here to put most things onto Suicide, the fact they are saying it is NOT a suicide, leads me to believe that. I dont think the real truth will ever come out, but hey guys keep up with the conspiracy Mafia/ Triad/ Russian /Gay theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiFurnishedApts Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Didnt one of Saddams henchmen loose his head when he was hung a year or so back ? I am sure that a drop of that distance would be enough to do that. Condoleances to his family whoever they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I have never seen so much unbelievable hypotheses' in all my life. Talk about armchair detectives From decyphering messages to calling a death based on a 2X2 photograph. You guys are good All we have to go on right now is the Police Report. With the Police tendencies over here to put most things onto Suicide, the fact they are saying it is NOT a suicide, leads me to believe that. I dont think the real truth will ever come out, but hey guys keep up with the conspiracy Mafia/ Triad/ Russian /Gay theories. thanks jackdanny,but we have n't got into the who dunnit properly yet....more to come i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 You probably would of been better off not to share any of that with us....naturally you must have qualifications to support all of your good work? Why would I need qualifications to post in a forum? I make posts hoping for constructive feedback. You post to expel as much garbage as possible. Monroe, Seems to me that you are the one expelling garbage & knowing it, since after posting it, you quickly changed it. You oringinally posted that , "I have Analysed the message and don't think its an Anagram or a code". <deleted>? It would appear from this type of garbage comment that you have been watching too many episodes of CSU or one of those other garbage Police shows. No doubt this is the closest you get to any sort of real action & just what TV needs, another armchair expert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrad Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I don't think neverdie is joking. A usual police investigation would involve a request for anyone at the location around the time of the 'event' to come forward to tell them about anything they may have seen / noticed that could be relevant.*I'm not a policeman though and who am I to tell the BIB how to do their job. I would be willing to talk to the BIB, but I honestly didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I think I was the only Farang there at the time. The wife and I left after they turned off the lights under the bridge (around 10:30 - 11pm). Rama VIII bridge is a great place to go and relax in the cool river breeze. The wife drags me out there at least twice a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I don't think neverdie is joking. A usual police investigation would involve a request for anyone at the location around the time of the 'event' to come forward to tell them about anything they may have seen / noticed that could be relevant.*I'm not a policeman though and who am I to tell the BIB how to do their job. I would be willing to talk to the BIB, but I honestly didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I think I was the only Farang there at the time. The wife and I left after they turned off the lights under the bridge (around 10:30 - 11pm). Rama VIII bridge is a great place to go and relax in the cool river breeze. The wife drags me out there at least twice a month. Don't worry too much about it ole mate. You will get a death sentence, but it will be reduced to 25-30 years.....do you have a good lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M555 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) how weird,especially the message. Edited February 23, 2009 by M555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantbkk Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) This just in: Body of beheaded westerner found Police Monday located the body of the head of a westerner, which was found hanging from the King Rama VIII Bridge Sunday. The body was floating on the river near the bridge at 2 pm. The Nation This is the actual press release from The Nation's breaking news on the internet. I couldn't begin to write like they do so don't flame me. Edited February 23, 2009 by grantbkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumonster Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I have never seen so much unbelievable hypotheses' in all my life. Talk about armchair detectives but hey guys keep up with the conspiracy Mafia/ Triad/ Russian /Gay theories. you haven't seen my theory yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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