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To obtain a teaching license...Do I need to provide the ORIGINAL of my University transcript? Diploma? or will a copy be sufficient?

Do they need an original of my Diploma and offical transcript? Or just my one or the other.

is there a list somewhere?

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I think a copy of the diploma is good enough, but you have to use an original (like, unopened or otherwise stamped and certified and uncopyable) transcript. The transcript has become more important because the diplomas are so easy to fake these days.

Why don't you go looking through the "Teaching in Thailand" subsection of this forum? There's a "Teacher's License" thread buried somewhere in there. Also check out the thread now on the first page called "Red Tape, the Process."

"Steven"

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Generally an original BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR EMPLOYER SAYS YOU NEED AS IT'S EASIER FOR SOME THAN OTHERS! So I had to give in my original (but not transcripts which SOME schools are asking for), whereas if you worked for the super duper wicked school of excellence they'd probably be able to do it with a good copy of your degree etc.!

Basically mate I can tell you what you need to know (check the link I gave you on the other thread) but it's pretty much academic if your employer isn't willing to basically do it for you. One TL is yours to keep, the other is for your employer. and yes if you change employers generally you/they have to reapply for a TL (or at least their part of it!).

You seem to think it can all be done on your own, it can't!

IJWT,

The transcripts are more for the employer it's not (as far as I know) a requirement from the MoE!

Edited by kenkannif

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Generally an original BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR EMPLOYER SAYS YOU NEED AS IT'S EASIER FOR SOME THAN OTHERS! So I had to give in my original (but not transcripts which SOME schools are asking for), whereas if you worked for the super duper wicked school of excellence they'd probably be able to do it with a good copy of your degree etc.!

Basically mate I can tell you what you need to know (check the link I gave you on the other thread) but it's pretty much academic if your employer isn't willing to basically do it for you. One TL is yours to keep, the other is for your employer. and yes if you change employers generally you/they have to reapply for a TL (or at least their part of it!).

You seem to think it can all be done on your own, it can't!

IJWT,

The transcripts are more for the employer it's not (as far as I know) a requirement from the MoE!

Thanks for your help. I've read the web site and am aware of the general process...I just needed some clarification about the timeline and if copies were acceptable.

matt

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(Assuming already got a job offered) Will there be any chance in getting a Teacher license if we only got college diploma plus CELTA? Or ... they wanna see a degree?

I asked the MOE bout what documents needed to be submit, but they seemed to know ...nothing... bout TL. That's just so weird!

All help appreciated :o

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Generally you need a degree, but I know people that have got it with a Diploma and a TEFL, and in some cases just a TEFL!

So again the typical, yes, no and maybe!

Basically your school should know as they'll have to do it really!

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So I have a 4 year undergraduate degree (?) from a university....So do I have a degree, diploma, and a transcript?

I think I'm having some problems with the cultural differences

I'm assuming a diploma is a 2 year degree?

A degree is a 4 year undergraduate University degree?

And a transcript is a piece of paper with all my classes and grades I recieved in each class.

Is this correct?

matt

I'm american btw.

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I'm a Brit (so I might be wrong) but yes I think you have a degree. They (bachelors that is) usually take 3 years in the UK and 4 in the States (make of this what you will :o )

Any American feedback IJWT/PB?

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I was required to have all original documents for my TL that they just obtained for me, i also had to have the University E-Mail them stating i was there from the start to finish.

I work at one of the good schools but their clout meant nothing to MoE.

Be prepared to have all documents. (original) A person that has gone through life making sure he has obtained these degrees, should have them with him or her at all times anyways. I would not go to another country with copys and ask them if that was good enough. It can be fustrating but the rewards are enough to make me like staying.

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About degree vs. diploma...

I'm an American in the U.S. and haven't gotten to try teaching in Thailand yet, but I'm studying the idea. So I don't know what's required, but I wanted to check my understanding of what's been written here...

To me, you get a Degree on completion of a 4+ year post-secondary program. It may be a B.A., a B.S., a B. Ed., or something else, but its a Bachelor's of Something Degree.

I'd assume that Master's Degrees and Ph D's also count as degrees, but they aren't needed since you only need one degree.

A Diploma is a large folio-sized piece of paper with a gold-colored seal suitable for framing or storing in the attic that they hand you when you attend the graduation ceremony.

So to prove to the MoE that you have a Degree they want to see your original Diploma, which you had best unframe and bring with you to Thailand, correct? I'm having visions of myself in a white shirt and tie traveling all over BKK and trying not to sweat while carrying around a huge folio like a beginning model or art student.

Now the whole concept of actually letting my Diploma out of my sight is not something I've come to terms with yet. I better worry about disreputable employers keeping it hostage, shouldn't I? I can see them wanting to see the original and make their own copy of it, but letting it out of my sight? I have no idea what kind of hassle I'd have to go through to get a replacement from my university, or if its even possible after this many years. :o

I used to be able to get sealed transcript copies, but there was a price per each, so I'd not want to have to cough one up just for an interview. A job, ok. How many copies should I have ordered up before heading to Thailand?

Would some of the more savvy employers instead of wanting a transcript rather call or email the university for verification? Seems like if that Khao San Road place has people that can forge a diploma they could cook up the transcripts much more easily. When I last saw one it was a bad photocopy of a few pages stuffed into an envelope with a raised-stamp sealing the envelope and a scrawled signature across it.

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About degree vs. diploma...

I'm an American in the U.S. and haven't gotten to try teaching in Thailand yet, but I'm studying the idea. So I don't know what's required, but I wanted to check my understanding of what's been written here...

To me, you get a Degree on completion of a 4+ year post-secondary program.  It may be a B.A., a B.S., a B. Ed., or something else, but its a Bachelor's of Something Degree.

I'd assume that Master's Degrees and Ph D's also count as degrees, but they aren't needed since you only need one degree.

A Diploma is a large folio-sized piece of paper with a gold-colored seal suitable for framing or storing in the attic that they hand you when you attend the graduation ceremony.

So to prove to the MoE that you have a Degree they want to see your original Diploma, which you had best unframe and bring with you to Thailand, correct? I'm having visions of myself in a white shirt and tie traveling all over BKK and trying not to sweat while carrying around a huge folio like a beginning model or art student.

Now the whole concept of actually letting my Diploma out of my sight is not something I've come to terms with yet. I better worry about disreputable employers keeping it  hostage, shouldn't I? I can see them wanting to see the original and make their own copy of it, but letting it out of my sight? I have no idea what kind of hassle I'd have to go through to get a replacement from my university, or if its even possible after this many years.  :o

I used to be able to get sealed transcript copies, but there was a price per each, so I'd not want to have to cough one up just for an interview.  A job, ok.  How many copies should I have ordered up before heading to Thailand?

Would some of the more savvy employers instead of wanting a transcript rather call or email the university for verification?  Seems like if that Khao San Road place has people that can forge a diploma they could cook up the transcripts much more easily. When I last saw one it was a bad photocopy of a few pages stuffed into an envelope with a raised-stamp sealing the envelope and a scrawled signature across it.

Regarding transcripts - I have no idea what I did with mine. I assume that if I ask the University they can provide another - it has been 6 years since I graduated though

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Jerry - Ken wasnt meaning the pysical piece of paper that you get at the old award ceremony.

He was meaning the different levels of post school awards that you get leading up to BAs, MAs etc

In the UK you can go to college for 1 year and get a Higher National Certificate in whatever, after 2 years you get a Higher National Diploma and then you can move to a university and transfer credits so after 3 you get a BA.

So does the US have somethng similar to the Certificate and Diploma ( Associate degree?)

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I'm a Brit (so I might be wrong) but yes I think you have a degree. They (bachelors that is) usually take 3 years in the UK and 4 in the States (make of this what you will :o )

Any American feedback IJWT/PB?

For us Americans, you *do* need both your diploma (that's the sheepskin, i.e., the big embossed certificate that says you got the degree, usually you receive this in a ceremony AFTER a four year (yes, that's right) or longer period of study) *and* the transcript (which is a detailed, course-by-course, grade-by-grade, credit-by-credit official list from the registrar of your college (sometimes must be *directly* from the registrar by mail, case-by-case), also confirming that you have your degree.

The need for the original diploma is not unusual; for example, the Japanese government also requires a look at it to get paperwork started there. I keep mine in a nice binder (with one fold). I wouldn't let anyone here KEEP it, but by all means have it available for them to look and copy.

Wouldn't have thought that would be so confusing, but that's what they are!

"Steven"

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