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Text And Talk School.... Bkk

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I'm considering enrolling with the Text and Talk School in BKK (the one near Chatujak) in July, to get my TEFL.

I understand it's 120hours, 6 weeks, 4 days a week.

Anyone have any knowledge of their school, quality, placement, etc...

Cheers

ChrisP

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Chris, you naughty, naughty, man, you- that's like waving a red flag in front of the bull.

I think one of the other posters here might be PM'ing you shortly with details...

However, for a fair estimate of the TnT experience (though I think in Chiang Mai, not Bangkok) you might PM or ask PeaceBlondie.

If you're in town for that long, look me up!

"Steven"

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Chris, you naughty, naughty, man, you- that's like waving a red flag in front of the bull.

Ohhhhh... nooo.... and why would that be..

I'm innocent, really! :o

ChrisP

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I think IJWT's reference is more to what happens on Ajarn.com when people ask about TEFL courses!

I can assure you the same will not happen here :o

Edited by kenkannif

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Just saw the ad. on ThaiVisa for Chichester College TEFL...

Seems a bit short!?? Compared to Text & Talk.

4 Saturdays - 24 hours classroom, 24 hours CyberClass, + hours for writing/journals..

Any observations..?

ChrisP

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I think IJWT's reference is more to what happens on Ajarn.com when people ask about TEFL courses!

I can assure you the same will not happen here :o

Ok, reassured somewhat by that, I'll ask my question here rather than via PM,

hoping that I don't start an emotional discussion.

I'm comparing & contrasting Text N Talk with Tefl International (my literature teachers always compared and contrasted, it was never sufficient simply to compare).

I've read both of their web pages. TnT certainly talks a good line, but the 6 hours of classroom instruction has me concerned. 20:1 seems a very high ratio of book-learning time to practice time.

By the time everything is added up (lodging, utilities, security deposit confiscations) it looks like TnT will be more expensive than TEFL Int. Is that right?

I had thought TEFL Int had a higher number of classroom practice hours, but I must have confused it with some other program (edit: it was APEC). Some program was offering 80 hours of lecture and 40 hours of practice, I think (edit: but that includes course prep etc). But TEFL Int seems to be offering the same as TnT when I look at it today.

So having compared and contrasted I'm now confused and confounded.

Edited by jerry921

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Spend time in each (and others if you're interested) as they'll both let you do so, and then make an informed decision blah blah blah!

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Something I thought a little odd on the Text and Talk website is that they

openly state that although a degree is required to get a work permit, work can be had without one. In all fairness that is true, but for a reputable company to openly state that in their literature looks weird. It surprises me that the MOE hasn't come down on them for it.

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Labor Dept I'd say mate! MoE do teachers licences is all!

Also it is possible (not easy by any means!) to get a WP without a degree.

I think if you check a lot of websites for 'reputable' schools you'll see they do things like this (I think AUA may still have the 3 months probation before you get a WP info on their website).

Common practice and no biggie IMEHO!

Edited by kenkannif

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Labor Dept I'd say mate! MoE do teachers licences is all!

Also it is possible (not easy by any means!) to get a WP without a degree.

I think if you check a lot of websites for 'reputable' schools you'll see they do things like this (I think AUA may still have the 3 months probation before you get a WP info on their website).

Common practice and no biggie IMEHO!

Yes of course we all know it's possible, blah, blah, but to openly say it in the website? I just thought it looked tacky.

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Anything related to paperwork in Thailand is pretty intrinsically tacky, sad to say... I'd commend the schools/businesses who actually tell the truth about the bureaucratic status quo, as uncertain and unprofessional as these things are here!

"Steven"

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Labor Dept I'd say mate! MoE do teachers licences is all!

Also it is possible (not easy by any means!) to get a WP without a degree.

I think if you check a lot of websites for 'reputable' schools you'll see they do things like this (I think AUA may still have the 3 months probation before you get a WP info on their website).

Common practice and no biggie IMEHO!

Yes of course we all know it's possible, blah, blah, but to openly say it in the website? I just thought it looked tacky.

At first I thought you were implying that the MoE would get upset (in a legal sense) about it, now it's tacky or is that what you thought they'd get upset about?

Also it's a training course website (i.e. they're not saying they'll employ you are they?), and it's a common fact that it is possible to get work here without a degree. I'm guessing, and I know this might sound a bit KER-RAZY, but if it said you have to have a degree they might get less business? I think if you check most TEFL providers' websites you'll see the same kind of thing mate. I truly though don't get the tacky bit?

How would you phrase it then?

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but if it said you have to have a degree they might get less business?" 

"How would you phrase it then?"

Ah, there we go!$$$. How would I phrase it? I think I did. How would I rephrase it?

Maybe, 'unprofessional'?

There's no need to inform me that it's possible to find work without a work permit. I'm living proof of it after teaching in Bangkok for close to nine years without a work permit. I'm not ashamed of it beacause under the circunstances I did what I had to do. I just don't like the way they word it in their website. Like I said it looks unprofessional. In ECC's information it clearly states that to obtain a work permit a degree is necessary. However, if you email them, another tale is told.

Edited by kenkannif

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Labor Dept I'd say mate! MoE do teachers licences is all

At first I thought you were implying that the MoE would get upset (in a legal sense) about it, now it's tacky or is that what you thought they'd get upset about?

A legal sense. I don't know who would be more inclined to object to it, the MOE

or the labor department or both.

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