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Hi guys, anyone know where in Buriram i can buy good size Koi Carp, talking 10 inches plus, need about 50. was talking to a guy in Buriram and he mentioned somewhere by Big C, 200 baht for One fish, brother in law has been to look but cannot find the place.

Anyone got any info.

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No idea about buying Koi but I have been giving serious consideration to putting in a Koi pond.

I have a good workman but need someone with the designing knowhow of Koi ponds, i will follow your thread with interest and hope to need Koi in the near future.

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No idea about buying Koi but I have been giving serious consideration to putting in a Koi pond.

I have a good workman but need someone with the designing knowhow of Koi ponds, i will follow your thread with interest and hope to need Koi in the near future.

Hi Thaicoon & Ron

Although not in Buriram, I get Koi Carp from our local market in the Army base here in Surin(Wed&Sat). Usually we have to order large fish (8>12 inches) and they turn up the next market day with them. I pay 150b each(bulk price) and usually buy 6>10 at a time. To date I have had no fatalities or ones with skin diseases.

I am no Koi expert BTW and cannot comment on the quality of the fish, if you are after 'show' specimens. PM if you want a contact phone number for the supplier.

Incidently, I bought a UV filter from Ebay,UK and brought it over with me and built a biological filter box from bits of plumbing stuff and a BigC container box. Seems to work :o

Dave

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Hi guys, anyone know where in Buriram i can buy good size Koi Carp, talking 10 inches plus, need about 50. was talking to a guy in Buriram and he mentioned somewhere by Big C, 200 baht for One fish, brother in law has been to look but cannot find the place.

Anyone got any info.

dont know where you can get them but I hope you know something about koi. for that many fish you will need a large pond, lots of air and a large filter. I have about 50, have a 30,000 liter pond and a 1000 liter and it still stesses the system. If you are just starting get your pond ready, put a few fish in for a month or two to prime the filter then slowley add more fish. if you dont do it this way you will be replacing fish constantly

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cannot comment on the quality of the fish

Sadly most are poor quality, very few places sell Grade 'A' Koi, most people just want to fill there Ponds as cheap as possible. + they do not want the work to care for them.

If you have a Pond of Koi you need at least 2 other containers with air pumps and filters, always put new fish into a differt pond/container 1st for 3 days changing the water every day...... DO use a carbon fresh water filter to fill the Pond/Containers, Do check your fish every day, if you see a odd spot or a fish is acting strange take it out and put in the small pond/container.

Grade A fish are in the thousend of baht, not hundereds, also depends on the markings. Fully frown with 1st class markings sell for around 3.5 - 4 million each!!

From a Fish Farm babies cost 7 baht each, the Grade A cost 50 - 80 bach each for the same size, put them together and you will see the difference straight away.

Bought 2 10" yesterday from the Farm, grade A cost 1,400 each, this was discounted as buy at least 40 at a time every month.

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I have a good workman but need someone with the designing knowhow of Koi ponds

More the question is what is your budget and size of pond.?

Just the Filter system can cost 165,000 baht !!

A nice size Koi pond is 6m x 3m x 2m deep.

Now in Thailand is a drain system from Germany with back wash [like in a swimming pool] and cost only 5,000 baht.

Do remember when you build the pond to install a light, the swimming pool [set into the wall side] type cost only 1,400 baht, so real cheap

As for building a pond of this size then from 20 - 70,000 baht

A good idea is to fit a skimmer and well as air jets in the wall at least 2/3 thirds down, how is the filtered water going to be returned to the pond? waterfall? or jets along the side? the ideal pond will have nothing but fish in the pond, it just depends on what you want..

Do check out some of the web sites, there are many on 'how to build a Pond'

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It is old but a good web site with loads of Info on building a Koi Pond

http://www.koicymru.co.uk/construct.htm

will give you lots of ideas.....

here in Thailand you will need rebar steel on the bottom and a double skin wall with wire mesh or rebar in between

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Hi guys, anyone know where in Buriram i can buy good size Koi Carp, talking 10 inches plus, need about 50. was talking to a guy in Buriram and he mentioned somewhere by Big C, 200 baht for One fish, brother in law has been to look but cannot find the place.

Anyone got any info.

Hi TC

Hope all is well in UK.

I have a pond about 20m by 10m by 4m. Being a cheap charlie it is the hole I was left with after digging out the soil to raise the land the house is built on. Anyway it retains water all year round at varying levels. I suspect your pond is similar i.e not concrete.

In this I keep Koi, Pla nin and various other infiltrators, all seem to live in harmony without the need for filters, lights etc after all they are carp and love grubbing around in the clay. In fact they are bullies and shove all the pla nin etc out of the way at grub time.

These koi were purchase in the local market for 10 or 20 baht each. Couple of inches long and now after 3 years a foot plus in length. A friend recently built a pond and stocked it with 2-3 inch koi after just 3 months the are now 6 inches + long. Personally i think smaller fish have a much better survival ratio.

Hope this helps and look forward to seeing finished product in due course.

TBWG :opost-24662-1238917769_thumb.jpg post-24662-1238917819_thumb.jpg

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Thanks for the Info guys, used to keep koi in the UK, had about 40 fish all over 18 inches had these for years, going to work one morning 5am, most of the fish were scattered around the lawn, all dead, this really p........ me off, as talking a lot of bucks, we had these when they were about 8 inches, spoke to the local wildlife trust, i thought maybe a mink, it was an otter.

the pond,we have concreted part of it, but no filter as yet, TWG, have you a filter, as koi also like mud

http://www.koiphen.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=108

I was thinking maybe just put a waterfall and jets in to circulate the water, not really bothered about the pond been crystal clear. but all your info is making me think, i will give all instructions to the wife as she is flying out in the morning.

also we have dug a 2 rai lake out, but that is for another project in the future.

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Thanks for the Info guys, used to keep koi in the UK, had about 40 fish all over 18 inches had these for years, going to work one morning 5am, most of the fish were scattered around the lawn, all dead, this really p........ me off, as talking a lot of bucks, we had these when they were about 8 inches, spoke to the local wildlife trust, i thought maybe a mink, it was an otter.

the pond,we have concreted part of it, but no filter as yet, TWG, have you a filter, as koi also like mud

http://www.koiphen.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=108

I was thinking maybe just put a waterfall and jets in to circulate the water, not really bothered about the pond been crystal clear. but all your info is making me think, i will give all instructions to the wife as she is flying out in the morning.

also we have dug a 2 rai lake out, but that is for another project in the future.

Hi TC

No filter but thinking of installing a fountain of some sort for oxygenating as necessary.

TBWG :o

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Can anyone tell me of a good place to buy pond, and Koi supplies in Bangkok, apart from JJ Market?

Thanks

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Koi as everyone knows are ornamental fish and enthusiasts buy them to admire their colours, and as such you NEED clear water, there is a big difference in keeping koi for this purpose than putting a few in a pond which is primarily used for commercial fish which it appears relies on keeping a constant supply of algae, hence the fact that fertiliser in various forms is used to this end, any real koi enthusiast will tell you what is needed to meet a good koi pond requirement, and yes the Japanese do keep koi in mud ponds for 6months but only to enhance their colours and the only time they are seen is feeding time and when they are being removed, if you cannot see your koi, the expensive ones or the cheapies why have them in the first place, my pond here in the kingdom is 8,000gallons with a through put of water every 45 minutes along with a very good filter system that allows me to keep 100 fish ranging in size from 10inch to 24inch. as for price, you usually get what you pay for as far as quality is concerned but one thing is certain,expensive fish die just as easily as the cheapies so get your system right and learn a bit about filtration if you want clarity my pond is 4feet deep and the fish are clearly visible on the bottom.

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Can anyone tell me of a good place to buy pond, and Koi supplies in Bangkok, apart from JJ Market?

Thanks

There are many Farms, but all are at least an hours drive outside of BKK....... West - North West and South West, the main big Fish markets is about 100km south west of BKK.[open 7 days a weeks but the best is to get there in the early hours of Tuesday morning, but VERY busy with all the Traders from BKK and area] also in the same area are 3 smaller ones [markets] and 4 Farms.

JJ Market is very expensive..

The oblong fiberglass ponds they sell the fish from cost 7,000 baht !! anyone can buy from the wholesaller they get them from 1,850 baht.

Good Koi are between 6 - 7,000 baht, same size from the Farms 1,500 - 2,000 etc etc.

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If you have Grade A quality Koi, don't buy cheap food, quality food is much better and they will keep their colour.

Temperature is also a factor, so unless you have a deep pond get a heater for the cold weather

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