kurnell Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 A friend of a friend is sitting in jail in Phangan at the moment after he was caught with small amounts of weed and a few E's. Police have told him he will have to go to court in 2 weeks and offered to let him out of jail in the mean time (minus his passport) for 100,000 baht. This sounds a little high to me. What is the likey outcome? Fine? Jail time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 What a fool your friend is..... me thinks he should just pay the money, can't imagine wanting to spend 5 minutes in the jail yet alone risking spending an extended time in there over a few baht. Perhaps he will think again about his drug habbit in asia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 What a fool your friend is..... me thinks he should just pay the money, can't imagine wanting to spend 5 minutes in the jail yet alone risking spending an extended time in there over a few baht.Perhaps he will think again about his drug habbit in asia pritty goofy comment "neverdie"..................Ya the kid got shafted he could have got the whole thing dropped if he'd given the arresting officier 20,000 on the spot. Now he should pay the money and slip to malaysia. If he's smart he'll split.....their comming down hard on E the pot is no big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 sounds like a very high bail, if its minus the passport. best to get your friend a lawyer. court appearance following deportation is the most likely outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSingh Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Negotiate the payment with the Passport, pay it, & get the <deleted> out !! & then hit your Friend 3 times around the Head whilst calling him the biggest Idiot you've ever known in your life.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Note: Friend of a friend. None of my friends are dumb enough to get caught Is it likely that he faces jail time for a few E's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuian Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Plain stupid.... not even sorry! "a couple of Ee's...." people are in for much less! It's the law, the law, is the law and this guy has to learn his lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'll second MSingh. Any negotiations for that much "bail money" should include passport, otherwise get a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'll second MSingh. Any negotiations for that much "bail money" should include passport, otherwise get a lawyer. If he pays and does not get his passport then it is not "negotiations for release", its bail. Any under the table negotiations would include the passport. So, in all likelihood, given that he is already sitting in jail and most likely been processed, its probably too late for such negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxexile Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 unforgiven Ya the kid got shafted pretty goofy comment "unforgiven". the "kid" pretty much shafted himself, nobody shafted him at all. he brought it all on himself. it serves no purpose to say that it serves him right , but .... it serves him right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiud Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I agree with SBK. Is too late to get the passport back. That money is only to get out jail an IMO is just a kind of extortion money. Get a (trusty) lawyer to get out jail and wait for bail. Usually people pay some 30/50.000 to get out waiting for Samui bail. I agree, caught with E is more serious that with grass only... This is not Europe Good luck for your unprovided friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmswaine Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Poor guy. Can't really say too much, but "negotiation" is the best thing. Get somebody to help you who knows how things work over there. As for you guys who say is serves him right, don't you remember when you were young? Edited April 10, 2009 by malcolmswaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Anyone know a good lawyer on Phangan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sel Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) If he pays and does not get his passport then it is not "negotiations for release", its bail. Any under the table negotiations would include the passport. So, in all likelihood, given that he is already sitting in jail and most likely been processed, its probably too late for such negotiations This sounds right. I would add that If you pay bail then you get a receipt. The receipt in the persons name who payed the bail is then used to collect the money after the court appearance and verdict. It can take a few days to to get it back and comes back as a cash cheque (in my experience) though it's only payable to the cops as cash. Don't know what happens when you're on the receipt and get deported. Edited April 10, 2009 by Sel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceCafe Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 As for you guys who say is serves him right, don't you remember when you were young? Yes, and I for one was brought up to take it on the chin! Som num naa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSingh Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'll second MSingh. Any negotiations for that much "bail money" should include passport, otherwise get a lawyer. If he pays and does not get his passport then it is not "negotiations for release", its bail. Any under the table negotiations would include the passport. So, in all likelihood, given that he is already sitting in jail and most likely been processed, its probably too late for such negotiations. It's never to late for the $$ in this Country sbk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 What a fool your friend is..... me thinks he should just pay the money, can't imagine wanting to spend 5 minutes in the jail yet alone risking spending an extended time in there over a few baht.Perhaps he will think again about his drug habbit in asia pritty goofy comment "neverdie"..................Ya the kid got shafted he could have got the whole thing dropped if he'd given the arresting officier 20,000 on the spot. Now he should pay the money and slip to malaysia. If he's smart he'll split.....their comming down hard on E the pot is no big deal Unforgiven, <deleted> is this 'goofy' for? Please explain. Goofy isnt so bad anyway, been called alot worse Malcolm, Yes I remember when I was young, I wasnt taking drugs though.....<deleted> are you on about, do you think all young people are STUPID enough to be running around taking illegal drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygourmet Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Weed should not be a problem ; but ecstasy is imported and certainly for some business reason. Locales, by not having a hand on this market are getting very upset. Also, waiting two weeks before going to court is also a bad sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmswaine Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 <deleted> are you on about, do you think all young people are STUPID enough to be running around taking illegal drugs. Those of us who haven't been left behind by social evolution and don't spend Saturday nights reminiscing about their stamp collections will probably have fallen into your "STUPID" category at least once in their lives. What do you think people are doing when they're going to the Full Moon Party. Wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patklang Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Malcolm,if everybody knows what goes in at the full moon party dont you think the cops do too. The stupidity isnt realy about taking drugs,thats crazy,the stupidity is using drugs in Thailand,and he has done the crime,so tell him to stop whinging and take his sentence like a man and not a wimpering child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patklang Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Its a friend of a friend and he still sticks up for the druggie,methinks you are a druggie too????? you are correct too,everybody does something stupid in life but this guy is certainly short of a few brain cells,using drugs in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 me thinks patklang has you worked out little mal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmswaine Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) You seem to think theres only two types of people in this world, 1. Stamp Collectors & 2. Grubby druggies. You miss the point. That's tantamount to saying anyone who drinks the occasional glass of wine is a Grubby Alcoholic. Edited April 10, 2009 by Rooo flaming not allowed please.Rooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehaigh Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Anyone know a good lawyer on Phangan? i think sopha handles a lot of drug cases, always seems to be stoners in her office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmswaine Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hey, sorry Roo ... Seriously, I am only joking. This is all meant in the best of humor, and no offense intended to anyone. I hope everyone has a sense of humor ... I've got nothing better to do today than wind people up ha ha!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuian Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Anyone know a good lawyer on Phangan? the only one i know and recommend for such things is in Nathon/Samui opposite the Police Station....a wee bit to the right... Mr.Poonsak call: fax: ask for Ms.Nok - she speaks English rather well... PM Samuian for relevant phone #'s. Edited April 10, 2009 by Rooo Phone #'s removed.Rooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 How many is "a few". Could he facing "with intention to sell"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'll second MSingh. Any negotiations for that much "bail money" should include passport, otherwise get a lawyer. If he pays and does not get his passport then it is not "negotiations for release", its bail. Any under the table negotiations would include the passport. So, in all likelihood, given that he is already sitting in jail and most likely been processed, its probably too late for such negotiations. It's never to late for the $ in this Country sbk... I know someone pretty well that knew a guy that got pinched for a myriad of different chemicals. Guy got taken to the station where he offered 1 million as his opening bid to make it go away. BIB after a few days came back with 2 million as a counter and the poor bloke didn't have that much, so, hi ho, hi ho, it's off to court he goes. He should have opened up with a lower bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSingh Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I know someone pretty well that knew a guy that got pinched for a myriad of different chemicals. Guy got taken to the station where he offered 1 million as his opening bid to make it go away. BIB after a few days came back with 2 million as a counter and the poor bloke didn't have that much, so, hi ho, hi ho, it's off to court he goes. He should have opened up with a lower bid. Exactly... My threory, not that i'd hope i'd have to use it in this instance but you know what i mean, is start as low as possible as whatever you do start with, expect to pay at least double IE 100k turns into at least 200k, 1m turns into 2m etc etc etc.. If you start high ( no pun intended ) then they're aware that you've got a bit of $$ so of course they're gonna go for more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 So start the bid at 20 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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