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I think Andrew Drummond's report clears up what what said to whom when he advises:

4. The word ‘f*cking’ is offensive and is well known by the Thais. Normal people find this word offensive, even when used purely to emphasis a point, even where I come from. Do not use it in conjunction with the term ‘b*tch’ to describe a female immigration officer, or ‘country’ to describe ‘Thailand’. You could be charged in your home country if you said the same. ...

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I think Andrew Drummond's report clears up what what said to whom when he advises:

4. The word ‘f*cking’ is offensive and is well known by the Thais. Normal people find this word offensive, even when used purely to emphasis a point, even where I come from. Do not use it in conjunction with the term ‘b*tch’ to describe a female immigration officer, or ‘country’ to describe ‘Thailand’. You could be charged in your home country if you said the same. ...

On what do you base this. THe following aricle would tend to prove the opposite.

http://www.findlaw.com.au/article/8872.htm

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I think Andrew Drummond's report clears up what what said to whom when he advises:

4. The word ‘f*cking’ is offensive and is well known by the Thais. Normal people find this word offensive, even when used purely to emphasis a point, even where I come from. Do not use it in conjunction with the term ‘b*tch’ to describe a female immigration officer, or ‘country’ to describe ‘Thailand’. You could be charged in your home country if you said the same. ...

On what do you base this. THe following aricle would tend to prove the opposite.

http://www.findlaw.com.au/article/8872.htm

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2009/04/29/...-11-the-sequel/

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The Andrew Drummond article does not appear to link anymore. Pity as this was one of the better informed articles I've read about Mr Burrowes case.

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Burrowes misses flight!

PHUKET CITY: It seems British tourist Simon Burrowes’s troubles in Thailand will never end. His flight out of Phuket left at 3pm today, but, in a situation that is all too familiar to Burrowes, he was not on it.

Immigration officials there told him they wanted to make some “additional inquiries” before permitting him to board the plane.

A police officer accompanying Mr Burrowes decided that Mr Burrowes would have to go to the Phuket Immigration Office in Phuket City – and miss the flight that had been paid for by an anonymous Thai benefactor.

This time, it seems, he kept his cool.

“It's not that much of a surprise, really,” he told the Gazette, explaining that after all he had been through, he was fully prepared for a hitch.

“It’s nothing. It really is nothing,” he said, sounding resigned.

Accompanied by the police officer and a Thai national who has been helping Mr Burrowes since he was released from prison, at the time of writing the luckless muay thai fighter was in a car heading for Immigration in Phuket City.

Friends of Mr Burrowes are attempting to secure him a place on another flight later today.

– Dan Waites

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-- Phuket Gazette 15/05/09

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Friday, May 15, 2009

Burrowes update: more jail time possible!

PHUKET CITY: Simon Burrowes may have to spend a night in a cell at Phuket City Immigration Office while his case is processed, the Gazette has learned.

An officer at immigration said Mr Burrowes should be able to leave the country tomorrow after "some paper work" is completed.

This might mean he will have to spend a night in jail, the officer said.

Thai jails are not unfamiliar to Mr Burrowes, who spent three weeks in Phuket Provincial Prison after losing his temper with an Immigration officer at Phuket International Airport.

Mr Burrowes was due to fly out of Phuket today at 3pm after receiving a one-way ticket home to the UK, paid for by an anonymous Thai benefactor.

When he reached Phuket Airport to catch the flight, he was told that some unspecified "additional inquiries" would need to be made.

In what might have felt like a case of deja vu to the muay thai pugilist, the flight left without him.

He was driven to Phuket City Immigration Office, where he remains.

A foreign gentleman is understood to be attempting to secure Mr Burrowes's release today.

For our previous report, click here.

Immigration officials would not permit a Gazette reporter to interview him and the officer in charge of the case at Immigration was reportedly "not available for comment".

Martin Carpenter, Honorary British Consul in Phuket, said he was aware of the situation.

"We will provide Mr Burrowes with any assistance that we can to make sure he can get back to the UK," he said.

"The Immigration department are probably only following procedures," he said. "I don't even know if the Immigration department knew if Mr Burrowes was actually leaving this afternoon."

The consulate had not received a court report following the Burrowes case and did not know his exact immigration status, he said.

"It is up to the individual and their legal council to understand exactly what his immigration status is," he added.

The Gazette has been unable to confirm whether the latest detention is related to unpaid overstay fines.

Mr Burrowes earlier told the Gazette that he thought the public prosecutor in his case had managed to get his 20,000 baht in overstay fines waived.

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-- Phuket Gazette 2009-05-15

– Dan Waites and Gazette reporters

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Immigration officials would not permit a Gazette reporter to interview him and the officer in charge of the case at Immigration was reportedly "not available for comment".

Sure, they just want to show their power for the last time... What a pathetic idiots! Just when you think it could not get any worse. They really musty have small penises (but still bigger than their brains). Feel sorry for this guy. And the good people in Phuket who will undoubtedly suffer from this in the long run as less and less tourists are coming!

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Immigration officials would not permit a Gazette reporter to interview him and the officer in charge of the case at Immigration was reportedly "not available for comment".

Sure, they just want to show their power for the last time... What a pathetic idiots! Just when you think it could not get any worse. They really musty have small penises (but still bigger than their brains). Feel sorry for this guy. And the good people in Phuket who will undoubtedly suffer from this in the long run as less and less tourists are coming!

I sincerely hope that this sad story will get the most prominence in the UK (and international) press that it can get. What a sad indictment of the Thai officialdom, even though those of us who live here are accustomed to it. From recollection (and I don't want to read through all the threads again, so forgive me if I'm wrong), but the whole basis of his altercation at the airport when originally scheduled to depart, was through the female immigration officer not being totally believing that he (a black man) had a UK passport?

Sad, sad, story. Only the lack of 'on the ground' support from the UK Embassy (maybe I'm wrong, perhaps they were there), is even sadder. Imagine how this story is going to play amongst the holiday planning public in the UK.

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I can understand all this saga as far as it concerns a visitor - in that it eventually leads to a small fine and him getting kicked out the country whatever the circumstances.

Where I find this more difficult to understand is in the case of a friend of mine - he was accused of being rude to an employee of an establishment (along the lines of telling her to 'fuc_k off'). Now he denies it and she has no witnesses but the judge advises him to plead guilty to settle the matter (he could have settled the matter at the cop house for Bt100k but didnt wish to as he felt he wasnt guilty).

Anyways he pleads guilty on this advice (partly due to his wife been explained the merits of the plea) and is charged a Bt1000 fine. Now this is all well and good - everything settled etc.. But when he next leaves the country, in which he works, has a GF and children, he is told that he can never ever return.

Now I will readily admit that I know this guy well enough that he might have said '<deleted> off' to the girl in question (although he denies it) but I still dont get the idea that if he did, his life, his career, his GF and kids life should be ruined as a result of it.

To an extent I can see why a country should be allowed to set the bar pretty high to allow someone in - I would not say such things to someone anyway. But considering the scum that are allowed to visit and stay here, Thailand is in no position to do so.

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I agree totally. When this country considers where it can improve it's image to attract more visitors/tourists, it could benefit from doing a review of it's own receiving/departing facilities (i.e. immigration). Let's face it, all visitors impressions start and end here, and whilst we all know and understand the hightened levels of security these days, surely there has to be suitable training for the Immigration personnel to deal with what are fairly common issues/concerns in any country?

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Homeward bound: Simon Burrowes finally gets off Phuket

PHUKET: After spending a his final night in Phuket under the observation of Phuket City Immigration officers, British national Simon Burrowes finally left Phuket at 5.50pm yesterday aboard a Silk Air flight destined for Singapore, where he was scheduled to catch a connecting flight to the UK.

Asked why Mr Burrowes had to spend his final night on the island under the supervision of immigration officers despite completion of his court case and payment of a 500-baht fine for verbally abusing an Airport Immigration officer in January – when he originally planned to go home – an immigration officer told the Gazette that as Mr Burrowes had no money to pay for accommodation, they had to make sure there were no more problems.

Before coming to Thailand, Mr Burrowes was living in rented accommodation in Wembley, North-West London. He planned to return to his job and home after three months in Phuket.

Due to his extended stay in Thailand, he now faces bleak prospects back home, where he no longer has a job or housing.

Mr Burrowes said that he had “learned a lot” from his experience in the Land of Smiles, but had no plans to ever return here.

Mr Burrowes’s troubles in Phuket began in January, when he was held up at Airport Immigration by officers who suspected his passport may not have been genuine.

The suspicion was initially aroused because Mr Burrowes appeared to be shirtless in the photo on the passport, which was in fact legitimately issued.

As officers tried to verify the passport, Mr Burrowes realized his non-refundable flight would take to the skies without him.

He then became angry and abusive toward the female immigration officer holding his passport.

After pointing a finger at the officer’s face and shouting, “Give me back my [expletive deleted] passport you [expletive deleted] bitch,” Mr Burrowes snatched the passport back from the officer and walked away from the counter.

That move turned an already bad situation into a complete nightmare.

He was arrested and spent three weeks in Phuket Provincial Prison before being bailed and ordered to appear in court on verbal abuse charges. Mr Burrowes initially planned to fight the charges, but pleaded guilty on the day. He was fined 500 baht and released.

Penniless, Mr Burrowes was finally bought an air ticket home by an anonymous Thai benefactor, but when he tried to catch the flight on Friday afternoon he was again foiled by inadequate paperwork – he didn’t understand that he needed to get a police report and then have his visa renewed at the Phuket Immigration Office in Phuket City, some 50 kilometers away, before he could be allowed to leave.

Once again, he had to miss a non-refundable flight.

It was apparently “third time lucky” for Mr Burrowes yesterday evening, however. He was last seen by the Gazette successfully passing through Immigration for his flight to Singapore – again paid for by a friend.

– Tiparintron Tanaakarachod and Nick Davies

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-- Phuket Gazette 17/5/09

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Penniless, Mr Burrowes was finally bought an air ticket home by an anonymous Thai benefactor, but when he tried to catch the flight on Friday afternoon he was again foiled by inadequate paperwork – he didn't understand that he needed to get a police report and then have his visa renewed at the Phuket Immigration Office in Phuket City, some 50 kilometers away, before he could be allowed to leave.

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Considering the typical pro-active attitude of the average Thai, I guess nobody explained to him that he needed these papers..... Or even worse, they did not tell him on purpose.

I wish Mr. Burrowes all the best, esp since he even lost his job and house over this (according to the PG).

Land of Stupidity

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Penniless, Mr Burrowes was finally bought an air ticket home by an anonymous Thai benefactor, but when he tried to catch the flight on Friday afternoon he was again foiled by inadequate paperwork – he didn't understand that he needed to get a police report and then have his visa renewed at the Phuket Immigration Office in Phuket City, some 50 kilometers away, before he could be allowed to leave.

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Considering the typical pro-active attitude of the average Thai, I guess nobody explained to him that he needed these papers..... Or even worse, they did not tell him on purpose.

I wish Mr. Burrowes all the best, esp since he even lost his job and house over this (according to the PG).

Land of Stupidity

his or theirs?

in his position i would have ensured as far as is possible all eventualities covered - appears he did not consider the expired visa stamp in his passport which even without his recent experiences would be a red flag to check it out

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