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Realizing that there is a long period of waiting before you can harvest, after that period is done, what kind of return can be expected per Ria?

What are the up keep costs?

In Issan do they require irrigation or will the rains when and if they come take care of it?

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My wife and her family have about 40 rai of one year old rubber trees. They have been researching this for quite some time and the figures of about 20,000 baht per rai per month were bandied around. It takes about 5 or 6 years to start producing but they are planting other crops in between the rows of trees for some money earning before then.

Once the land is prepared and trees planted the only costs so far have been fencing the plantation so the buffaloes and cattle dont eat the leaves and a bit of cleaning of weeds.

When I first arrived in Ubon 7 months ago there was nobody within 100ks radius selling rubber trees, now every 5 ks on all roads from my home have people selling trees. The government must be trying to promote the rubber plantations up here.

As to the watering of the trees. Nearby there is another plantation where the trees have not been watered since I have been here and they are still alive and growing, all but slowly. Our trees have been hand watered from a tank every week or 10 days and they are coping fine. Mind you they will take off once the rains come.

Hope this has been some help to you.

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I have a friend who bought a small plantation in buriram

paid about 1m baht

he reckons about 25-30k per mth nett return,not sure of the size,i will ask him next time i see him.

not a bad pension investment really.

News of rubber tree planting has been growing significantly for at least last 10 years around Isaan region. It might be worth referring to the requirements of rubber tree planting. Try http://www.agnet.org/library/article/eb354a.html

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Further to my last about income from the rubber trees per rai. I mentioned that the wife's family had researched about 20k baht per rai. That should have read about 20k baht per 6 rai.

Sorry for the mistake.

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My wife and her family have about 40 rai of one year old rubber trees.  They have been researching this for quite some time and the figures of about 20,000 baht per rai per month were bandied around.  It takes about 5 or 6 years to start producing but they are planting other crops in between the rows of trees for some money earning before then.

Once the land is prepared and trees planted the only costs so far have been fencing the plantation so the buffaloes and cattle dont eat the leaves and a bit of cleaning of weeds.

When I first arrived in Ubon 7 months ago there was nobody within 100ks radius selling rubber trees,  now every 5 ks on all roads from my home have people selling trees.  The government must be trying to promote the rubber plantations up here.

As to the watering of the trees.  Nearby there is another plantation where the trees have not been watered since I have been here and they are still alive and growing, all but slowly.  Our trees have been hand watered from a tank every week or 10 days and they are coping fine.  Mind you they will take off once the rains come.

Hope this has been some help to you.

Actually this was a lot of help, I accidently ran into something just checking the cost per ria of in an area. 21 ria with the trees in about five years from production I'm told for 900K. In Udon you are paying up 500K for small lot to build on, it intrigued me as it looked as if there would be hope in the future of at least offsetting costs. But not knowing anything about the business, it was difficult to tell if I was being told the truth. It would appear that within a ten year period you could recover your investment and actually start showing some income. So I might just build a house out there. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

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Further to my last about income from the rubber trees per rai.  I mentioned that the wife's family had researched about 20k baht per rai.  That should have read about 20k baht per 6 rai.

Sorry for the mistake.

Even with the change of numbers per ria it still olks like a ten year plan would be realistic.

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Further to my last about income from the rubber trees per rai.  I mentioned that the wife's family had researched about 20k baht per rai.  That should have read about 20k baht per 6 rai.

Sorry for the mistake.

even with the adjustment of numbers sounds like a ten year plan would be accurate.

How many workman do think you will need to accomplish your needs?

Is there a harvesting cycle or is it pretty much a contant activity once the trees mature?

Pension plan yes I think so and with the age difference between my wife and myself 21 years an income beyond her V.A. benefit. So I believe with the right approach it would give me something to do on occassion adn protect the family a well. Sounding more like a win win all the time

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I'd be careful about estimating exact profits because the price of rubber can vary considerably, I remember it falling to less than 18 baht a kilo, now it's around 40 baht I believe. The rapid rise of the Chinese economy has led to rapid demand and price increase and I guess there's no sign of a slowdown but 20 years down the road?

Even 3 or 4 years ago I remember there was a quota per quarter in our village which meant no tapping at times, plus when it rains,(a rare occurence in Issan), you can't tap. Still, it's all the rage now, saplings for sale on the roadside everywhere,no fun as a job mind, getting up at 2 or 3 am to notch the trees and then going back at 11 am to collect the latex, still, if you employ someone you can maintain your beauty sleep.

bannork

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I'd be careful about estimating exact profits because the price of rubber can vary considerably, I remember it falling to less than 18 baht a kilo, now it's around 40 baht I believe. The rapid rise of the Chinese economy has led to rapid demand  and price increase and I guess there's no sign of a slowdown but 20 years down the road?

Even 3 or 4 years ago I remember there was a quota per quarter in our village which meant no tapping at times, plus when it rains,(a rare occurence in Issan), you can't tap. Still, it's all the rage now, saplings for sale on the roadside everywhere,no fun as a job mind, getting up at 2 or 3 am to notch the trees and then going back at 11 am to collect the latex, still, if you employ someone you can maintain your beauty sleep.

bannork

I noticed the fluctuation on one of the sites that was listed in the thread, they looked for about seven good years, that leaves me two. I was asking the cost of labor as I have no intention of working I am retired and I like it that way. Tinkering maybe but not working I'm fortunate enough that my retirement carries us very well, I truly thinking about the wife more then I for money.

I keep seeing that Thia government is really promoting this, is that only as to low costs loans. Which is something that I really don't want. Do they offer a service to assist in management of the project such as checking the soil and making recommendation. sounds like you have a lot of experience in this.

Does the product have to be processed on site after gathering, where is the loacl market for sale and do you need to transport to that loaction?

I know some of these things seem like really dumb questions but I really have no idea

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Is it not the government's latest plan to dig up the rubber plantations and stick in oil palms? :o

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I was under the impression that rubber trees need year round water to thrive and that it was all the plantations are in the South.

In Isaan you would have to have a huge lake to supply a large plantation.

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I was under the impression that rubber trees need year round water to thrive and that it was all the plantations are in the South.

In Isaan you would have to have a huge lake to supply a large plantation.

There's plenty of plantations on hillsides near us in Bandung, Udon Thani province.

In the south you always see the latex lying in balls by the roadside; later after pressing, it's hung out to dry on fences, looking like saddles for horses,the smell is rather unpleasant.

However I've never seen this in Udon, I think they take it straight to the co-operative where it's processed.

bannork.

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