johng Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Worst so far this year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Worst so far this year ?Thanks for the pics...where were they taken? Edited October 11, 2009 by moo9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I always believed that Pattaya need a good douche but not this way Great photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Worst so far this year ? Thanks for the pics...where were they taken? One was the car park of Friendship, most of the rest look to be taken from just there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Pictures of South Pattaya road near to Soi Baukow and Friendship supermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogercw Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I live in View Talay 6 by the Central Mall. Looking down at the traffic on Second Road it looks like the water is up to the hubcaps on all the cars and to the top of the tires on the smaller cars. This is about an hour after the rain stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayong09 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Love the picture of the girl and the must have mobile phone, not a care in the world, only in Thailand! Edited October 11, 2009 by rayong09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Your pics are great, but in some parts of 2nd road, in the Mikes Shopping Mall area stretching up to Pattaya Klang, the flooding was much worse. I was driving along there and have no idea how my slow slung car kept going as all around me vehicles and bikes were breaking down, and I was alarmed to see even the Baht Bus exhausts were completely submerged, and the water was washing the feet of the passengers. I was terrified my car would conk out so I decided to turn left into Siam Bayview Hotel to find some parking. Big mistake, the hotel driveway was even deeper than the road, and I have no idea how I managed to drive through the deep water and up the slope at the front of the hotel. When I waded back to the road, the water was well above my knees, and I am 6 foot tall. My exhaust must have been several inches under water. Maybe it's because it is a diesel engine, like the baht buses. Does anyone know about this? Can diesel engines run with their exhausts submereged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Diesel and gas engines can run with their exhust under water, just depends on how far under the size of the motor etc. As long as the pressure from the water is not high enough to stop the exhaust you are ok, what you really need to worry about is you intake, if you suck up some water in the intake it goes into the engine and can cause allot of problems. (bent rod, head gasket etc) I told my wife 100 times not to drive into water, but of course in one ear out the other, ended up having the complete engine overhauled (this was in the USA $3200 to fix it) be careful in the water!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I was terrified my car would conk out so I decided to turn left into Siam Bayview Hotel to find some parking. Big mistake, the hotel driveway was even deeper than the road, and I have no idea how I managed to drive through the deep water and up the slope at the front of the hotel.When I waded back to the road, the water was well above my knees, and I am 6 foot tall. My exhaust must have been several inches under water. Maybe it's because it is a diesel engine, like the baht buses. Does anyone know about this? Can diesel engines run with their exhausts submereged? There's no doubt about it, the Germans really know how to make cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retireAt45 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Many thanks for the photos. The photos highlighted one of the many infrastructure problems of Pattaya City facing many years ago. For the past 5 years, the City Hall of Pattaya had introduced many multimillions Dollar projects to prevent flooding in the City, but the problem of flooding never solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retireAt45 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Your pics are great, but in some parts of 2nd road, in the Mikes Shopping Mall area stretching up to Pattaya Klang, the flooding was much worse. I was driving along there and have no idea how my slow slung car kept going as all around me vehicles and bikes were breaking down, and I was alarmed to see even the Baht Bus exhausts were completely submerged, and the water was washing the feet of the passengers.I was terrified my car would conk out so I decided to turn left into Siam Bayview Hotel to find some parking. Big mistake, the hotel driveway was even deeper than the road, and I have no idea how I managed to drive through the deep water and up the slope at the front of the hotel. When I waded back to the road, the water was well above my knees, and I am 6 foot tall. My exhaust must have been several inches under water. Maybe it's because it is a diesel engine, like the baht buses. Does anyone know about this? Can diesel engines run with their exhausts submereged? Please be extremely careful. In the street of Pattaya there are many live electric wires hanging on the electric poles. News regarding unlucky Pattaya residents or tourists nearly got electrocuted by these wires during raining season are very common. Please be extremely careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junki3korean Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Thanks for the photos.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakman Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Diesel and gas engines can run with their exhust under water, just depends on how far under the size of the motor etc. As long as the pressure from the water is not high enough to stop the exhaust you are ok, what you really need to worry about is you intake, if you suck up some water in the intake it goes into the engine and can cause allot of problems. (bent rod, head gasket etc) I told my wife 100 times not to drive into water, but of course in one ear out the other, ended up having the complete engine overhauled (this was in the USA $3200 to fix it) be careful in the water!!! Some cars have the air intake very low to the ground and can suck up water into the intake. Hydrolock is a bad thing. At low engine rpm, you might get lucky not to damage the engine and fix it by pulling the spark plugs, turning over the engine and changing the oil. Exhaust is fine, but if you do drive in deep water, be sure to apply a bit of brake pressure to dry your brakes after moving out of the water. If you can, within a few days, drive long enough to heat up the axle bearings to drive out any water that might get into them or sucked into the differential (rear or front or both on 4wd) due to the cooling of the differential oil. Some vehicles are designed for running in deep water, the differential vents are plumbed higher up the chassis, most are small vents on top of the differential housing or transmission on front wheel drive vehicles. Rust can form quickly and compromise the lubricants or internal parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Diesel and gas engines can run with their exhust under water, just depends on how far under the size of the motor etc. As long as the pressure from the water is not high enough to stop the exhaust you are ok, what you really need to worry about is you intake, if you suck up some water in the intake it goes into the engine and can cause allot of problems. (bent rod, head gasket etc) I told my wife 100 times not to drive into water, but of course in one ear out the other, ended up having the complete engine overhauled (this was in the USA $3200 to fix it) be careful in the water!!! Some cars have the air intake very low to the ground and can suck up water into the intake. Hydrolock is a bad thing. At low engine rpm, you might get lucky not to damage the engine and fix it by pulling the spark plugs, turning over the engine and changing the oil. Exhaust is fine, but if you do drive in deep water, be sure to apply a bit of brake pressure to dry your brakes after moving out of the water. If you can, within a few days, drive long enough to heat up the axle bearings to drive out any water that might get into them or sucked into the differential (rear or front or both on 4wd) due to the cooling of the differential oil. Some vehicles are designed for running in deep water, the differential vents are plumbed higher up the chassis, most are small vents on top of the differential housing or transmission on front wheel drive vehicles. Rust can form quickly and compromise the lubricants or internal parts. Thanks for that. Maybe my car (a BM) is designed to run in deep water. Although the floor of the car was well below the water level, not a drop seeped into the car - or boot (trunk). Everywhere bone dry. It was quite amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I was terrified my car would conk out so I decided to turn left into Siam Bayview Hotel to find some parking. Big mistake, the hotel driveway was even deeper than the road, and I have no idea how I managed to drive through the deep water and up the slope at the front of the hotel.When I waded back to the road, the water was well above my knees, and I am 6 foot tall. My exhaust must have been several inches under water. Maybe it's because it is a diesel engine, like the baht buses. Does anyone know about this? Can diesel engines run with their exhausts submereged? There's no doubt about it, the Germans really know how to make cars. ...and submarines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapfries Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Worst so far this year ? Brilliant Pictures, 'johng' - because the light would have been fairly suspect at that time. Please let us know what kind of camera you used: I shall rush-out and purchase one right away ! (seriously !) Yes; the drainage system in Pattaya (especially South Pattaya & Pattaya Klan) leaves a heck of a lot to be desired ! Also on Sukhumvit Rd. (near the South-Pattaya trafic lights) it is like an "instant ocean" and 95% of vehicles just can not (dare no) negociate this treacherous obstacle. Further east, along the new Railway Roads, things are even worse, since the heavy flooding brings tons of debris down hill (via the many side Sois) and it all gets deposited onto the road-surface. I've seen entire truck-loads of concrete building blocks; timber-pieces etc. The danger is, that a lot of this debris is under he water-surface . . . . extremely dangerous allright ! Thanks again for the superb pics ! Cheers, JGK/Pattaya (for 18 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Whatever criticism you may level at the Thais, their ability to smile, joke and accept extreme misfortune is remarkable. Last night the entire area of 2nd Road, and many of the adjoining Sois were more than a foot under water, and the interiors of nearly all the bars, restaurants, shops and guest houses were also badly flooded. Yet I didn't see so much as a frown anywhere. Their businesses were badly disrupted, most places had been forced to close, the staff were sitting atop of tables and chairs waiting for the water to subside. No one was making any money, but no-one was complaining. Many were laughing and joking. We may have many frustrations when dealing with some of the more unsavoury aspects of Thai culture, but their ability to smile in the face of adversity, and accept what life throws at them is an object lesson to most of us from the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Biggest advantage of driving a diesel powered car is that there are no high voltage electrics involved in the ignition. As long as the air intake of your car is above water level, along with the other electronics (engine management) the engine will keep running. Even splashing/spraying water on the electronics will have little negative effect as all should be splash water proof. Not so with petrol engines, the weak point here is the high voltage ignition system. Just a little water spraying on less then perfect (new) cables/distributor will probably stall your engine! High voltage and water do not go well together. New petrol engines will have less of a problem as electric/electronics are well protected, and nowadays often there is no distributor anymore, but a coil for each spark plug, greatly reducing the length of high voltage carrying cables on the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaParent Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 And yesterday I was surprised driving along Sukhumvit outside the water ski lake that there was no flooding at all. That is usually one of the prime spots for rivers forming. Perhaps all that drainage installation works they did was actually effective and the City Hall might now look at the same solution to the bigger problems inside the city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo3 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Anyone know why the local city council are replacing the large ditch in the central reservation of Sukhumvit Road with much, much smaller concrete pipes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Worst so far this year ?Brilliant Pictures, 'johng' - because the light would have been fairly suspect at that time. Please let us know what kind of camera you used: I shall rush-out and purchase one right away ! (seriously !) The camera is a Canon Powershot A590 IS I set it to auto but forced the flash off. Some of the pics where blurred ( didn't upload those ones ) because the auto focus had a hard time. The flood subsided after about 3 hours,this morning its raining again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Glad I'm on the hill. Just wish they'd build another supermarket and get some banks branches up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I seem to recall that after the flooding last year, city hall said that they were clearing the plastic bags out of the storm drains to ensure that this never happened again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) The Thai Meteo said it was 55 mm of rain per sqm yesterday. Not too much though, BKK used to get far above 100 mm/sqm this season. However it much depends where the weather station is located, there might be huges differences among two not too far distanced locations. I think the problem is not easy to get solved and too be frank, this kind of flooding happens 1-2 times a year, usually in Sept./Oct. Guess many Thais don't take it as serious as us... Edited October 12, 2009 by moo9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnut Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I had a 2006 civic that I once drove through water like that in Phuket. The car rocked sideways like a boat the water was so deep and I really thought i would have problems with the car. But nothing was wrong I couldn't believe it. I still do not like to drive through water like that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHateCaptcha Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Biggest advantage of driving a diesel powered car is that there are no high voltage electrics involved in the ignition.As long as the air intake of your car is above water level, along with the other electronics (engine management) the engine will keep running. Even splashing/spraying water on the electronics will have little negative effect as all should be splash water proof. Not so with petrol engines, the weak point here is the high voltage ignition system. Just a little water spraying on less then perfect (new) cables/distributor will probably stall your engine! High voltage and water do not go well together. New petrol engines will have less of a problem as electric/electronics are well protected, and nowadays often there is no distributor anymore, but a coil for each spark plug, greatly reducing the length of high voltage carrying cables on the engine. Interesting information...driving in a flood situation in and electric or hybrid vehicle might also be a shocking experience...always been a concern with me with these newer types of vehicles. That's why I love my diesel Sport Rider SUV...never had a problem and I've driven it through the Sukhumvit "ocean" that forms in the low-spot between South and Central roads whenever it floods heavily...fun to look at all the cars stuck on the high ground while I just wade on in Could never understand why anyone would buy a car in Pattaya. Things were not too bad on the Darkside...went out just after the heaviest rains stopped around 6 pm and no problems on Nernplubwan and went to Tocino for a great Italian dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I had a 2006 civic that I once drove through water like that in Phuket. The car rocked sideways like a boat the water was so deep and I really thought i would have problems with the car. But nothing was wrong I couldn't believe it. I still do not like to drive through water like that though. Don't know about the Japanese, but as someone has already suggested, maybe the Germans have applied their U- Boat technology to their cars. I wonder if they would still go if they were completely submerged? "Deuk sprung Deutsch technique" - or something like that. Sorry Raro, only joking.... Seriously though, I wouldn't want to repeat that experience too often - I'll keep away from downtown next time the heavens open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_another_guy Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 North bound Sukhumvit somewhere between south & center roads yesterday. Almost an hour to travel a couple of kilometers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 If you look out your window to the east of Pattaya right now, looks like we are in for a repeat performance of yesterday afternoon!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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