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Thai Gangsters Demand Protection Money From Bar Owner

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Well it says 62 have veiwed this, no comments ?....am i to assume its not worthy and is normal practice for thailand,...... :)

Pattaya is not Thailand ....

This is normal practice for bar in Sukhumvit road etc Bangkok and places like Pattaya , Phuket (Patong Beach) and also Koh Samui now

80% of the bars in Pattaya are Russian, Police or militairy "co-owned"

Thats news too me.

So for any new comming farang with Bar idea's in that area .. you must at least have 10 years of prison in your own country or at least be a little criminal.

You aren't serious are you? I've never been arrested let alone served time.

Pieter

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Have been in the "entertainment" business for the last 15 years, either directly or indirectly, and out of my own experience I'd say that what you have seen is rather exceptional!

Haven't had anything like that ever happen to me, nor to my rather extensive amount of friends/acquaintances who are in the same business...

Each and every case of requests for "financial" assistance, or the attempts anyway, have come from the BiB or other officialdom such as the copyright people. And never do they use "popping somebody" as a threat! Rather as another poster wrote they would insinuate license problems, frequent "raids" to check everything is in order (and usually they'll find something which is not) etc.

Probably the most annoying bunch is the group flogging advertising in a police magazine. A stern talking to and pointing out the CCTV camera system (which every entertainment venue is supposed to have) makes them go away rather fast.

My guess (which might be entirely wrong of course) is that it looks more like maybe there are business conflicts between partners, or maybe a bit of money lending/debts involved as those are the situations where violence is a high risk...

I'm not defending Thailand, extortion does happen on a rather big scale, but somehow they seem to do this Thai style, i.e. generally with a smile on their face...

And then another little rule of mine, stay low, stay invisible. Especially if you have a rather big venue! Driving an old banger of a car instead of a shiny flashy Beemer or Benz. You have Thai staff to handle that kind of stuff, hide behind them. Has served me well!

Agreed, good post.

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One question. Is this one of those self proclaimed well connected farangs we all hear about, on these forums?

I was wondering the same.

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One question. Is this one of those self proclaimed well connected farangs we all hear about, on these forums?

I was wondering the same.

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One question. Is this one of those self proclaimed well connected farangs we all hear about, on these forums?

I was wondering the same.

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If this is directed at the business owner i am posting about then no, he knows no one like that, perhaps from what you are suggesting that is his downfall, :)

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The owner of my hotel in Ko Chang told me he'd rather had a hotel in Chiang May but because of the Mob he was forced to quit and now has this quiet place over there.
Well according to chiang mai above you its rubbish !,. :)

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The owner of my hotel in Ko Chang told me he'd rather had a hotel in Chiang May but because of the Mob he was forced to quit and now has this quiet place over there.
Well according to chiang mai above you its rubbish !,. :)

I was referring to the comments made about Pattaya bar ownership etc, not about Chiang Mai.

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How do you know that this is not a shake down by some minor thugs?

Their are people who will try it on.

Talk to a high level police official. If you have to pay some thing. Pay the cops.

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Well it says 62 have veiwed this, no comments ?....am i to assume its not worthy and is normal practice for thailand,...... :)

Pattaya is not Thailand ....

This is normal practice for bar in Sukhumvit road etc Bangkok and places like Pattaya , Phuket (Patong Beach) and also Koh Samui now

80% of the bars in Pattaya are Russian, Police or militairy "co-owned"

So for any new comming farang with Bar idea's in that area .. you must at least have 10 years of prison in your own country or at least be a little criminal.

Pieter

Or (usually if you are thai) have your own small, private army to man the place (which is what we had on Koh Tao :D that way you only get nit nawy police hassle :D

The draw back is it costs almost as much to keep the place safe as it does to pay them.

The moral of the story is, don't open a bar unless you allow for the 'security payments'

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think the fact that its a 35 million baht concern and on the outskirts that could have got some scum bags attention, I had a bar and office selling real estate in Pattaya, I never got approached once by anyone about paying security, the owner or his missus may have mouthed off a bit too much on what they have?

good luck to them whatever happens, the OP says someone has made an offer on the business....what if that someone doesn't really want to pay all of that and has decided to shake down/scare the living crap out of the owner so it becomes a nuisance and he is just happy to get rid, either that or has a heart attack due to the stress?

whatever it is it's not nice :)

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I thought it was common knowledge about the contributions to the policemans ball , Welcome to the Land of Smiles.

Edited by Thongkorn

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Get a thai to sort this - local Poo Yai or high ranking BIB on a small donation should sort this.

I loved the 80% of bars are run by the Russians comment - utter <deleted>!

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