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I have been working at a company (which shall remain nameless) for over 1 year without a work permit. I have done all the customary visa runs.

I have provided 1 year of outstanding service - missing no days, and landing some of the biggest contracts ever for my employer. I have done my job job properly and professionally and made good money for this company. I cooperated at every opportunity, shared and helped out - unpaid favors - above and beyond the call of duty many times.

However, my employer has studiously avoided giving me a work permit. "Too much trouble, etc..blah blah blah." Now there are some more serious problems developing at this job that are affecting me personally.

Do I have any recourse short of quitting?

Can I complain to the Police or the Labor Board?

Will this have any positive effect or will this just get me into trouble?

If I make a complaint, should I do this before or after quitting?

And - for my own safety - should I file such a grievance while I am inside or outside of Thailand?

Thanks for your consideration.

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You use the word 'company'. Are you a teacher?

This forum is the teaching forum. If your not a teacher then we can move it to a more appropriate forum.

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Thanks. Hopefully some posters will come along with some good advice.

Think carefully before doing anything. You are the one who has broken a law--you are working without a WP.

I am not sure how much trouble, if any, your employer will get into.

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I don't mean to sound harsh. You have been working for a company above and beyond, making them lots of money, ect ect., without a work permit, this does not give you any leverage. It just shows your willingness to be used and taken advantage of. You and your employer both broke the law. The law states that you can not work until the time a work permit is issued. There is no grace period. So what exactly are you thinking, gonna go and admit you broke the law and the rat someone else out to justify it? If your not happy just leave and find a new job. Actually if you meet the qualifications it is very simple to get a work permit it takes about 2 -3 weeks.

There is a recent post in this forum topic "arrested for not having work permit". Read it you will see that nothing has happened to the school. Over the years there has been many post about teacher without work permits being arrested. Never, not once, ever, ever, ever, had they mentioned anything happening to the school or company.

Follow the advice from Scott. Think carefully!!! It sounds to me like you are looking for a little revenge. Suck it up and remember your revenge is you have options to find another job, to return to falangland or anything you want to do.

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The school will, for reasons beyond legal logic but most likely having to do with money, nearly never be penalised or considered at fault for their breaking the law in employing you without a work permit. You have no leverage at all in this regard.

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The posts so far are helpful and enlightening. I think we need to be careful about saying 'nothing happens to the school.' I don't know that we know that for sure. They may end up paying a fair amount of money to get out of the problem. I doubt it, but it's something we don't know. We do know that the employee pays a very dear price however.

In most cases that I am aware of the complicity is on both sides. The employer says they don't provide a work permit and the employee agrees with those terms. In this case, it sounds like the employee was expecting a work permit, but didn't get one.

Hopefully, posters will have more information and examples.

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You say you have made money for this company and landed some of the biggest contracts ever, then you say you are a teacher, I am intrigued.

Regardless, you have worked without a permit, and if you want to take this further you will be the one that bears the brunt of the consequences.

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it seems the school is taking a 'take it or leave it' stance without any responsibility concerning your WP.

i think filing any grievances to the authorities will land you in trouble as the school can deny anything.

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it seems the school is taking a 'take it or leave it' stance without any responsibility concerning your WP.

i think filing any grievances to the authorities will land you in trouble as the school can deny anything.

Is there a hidden message from the school.

If they see you as critical to achievement great riches (you claim you have won many lucraive contracts for them, and this is a very competitive industry) then why would they be ambivalent?

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When working without a work permit, the employer risks a fine with a maximum of 100,000 baht. The employee on the other hand risks not only a fine, but also a maximum jail time of 5 years and deportation from the country.

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Are you a teacher?

Yes

If the dung hits the fan, it will be you that takes the rap.

It only takes someone with a grudge to make your life very difficult.

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LOL,This has to be a pisstake, surely.

Edited by Spoonman

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