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Working Without A Work Permit

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If you get arrested for working without a work permit you'll get into a lot of troubles, and I can assure you this is no fun at all:

- You get detained in a cell with space for 10 people, but there will probably be 70 people in there, so no space for you to lie down or even sit down, you will have to stand all the time....sharing a hole in the floor as a toilet....this will last 3 to 7 days depending when you case goes to court...

- You will be sentenced and fined for working without a work permit. The fine is somewhere around 20,000 THB. The sentence is deportation from Thailand.

- You will have to pay a lawyer to take care of your case and to buy you a oneway ticket back to your home country. Depending on the lawyer and where your home country is, this can be anywhere between 100,000 and 200,000 THB.

- Once you're back in your home country, you can return to Thailand, but your passport will have a red stamp inside it telling that you've been sentenced and deported....so the immigration at the airport in BKK can very well tend to refuse your entry....some of the airlines also tends to refuse you purchasing a flight to Thailand....

THIS IS NOT WORTH ALL THE HASSLES! Quit your job now!!

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The real point is that even if you do have some leverage over the employer, YOU will pay a price too, and that is all you should be considering. YOU have been breaking the law, and just because your employer has been complicit doesn't mean you'll get off easily if the law gets involved. Also be careful about threatening anyone with anything - if that is what you mean by leverage.

Also bear in mind that performance is not a one-sided assessment - we all have seen situations where employees honestly feel they have performed well but unfortunately no-one else agrees. Most businesses usually don't wantto get rid of the money-earners without a good reason.

Good Luck!

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now what I was just reading about the Thai's cracking down on so-called 'tourists' seeking illegal work in Thailand?

I hope you don't think you are a 'one off', Thailand is full of farangs like you. How many schools do you hear getting busted?

Should you 'grass up' the school involved, there will be only one loser. You.

Walk away, and next time get the rules straight before you start playing the game.

Recently I had an acquaintance here in Bangkok tell me that he was left underpaid by his prevous employer whilst he was working for them illegally on a tourist visa. He now intends to inform his employer's wife about his former Boss' sexual transgressions should he not come forward with the money owed for his job of work. So now he becomes a blackmailer and extortionist. Not to mention, a hypocrite too.

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I believe that one point needs to be made here. Whether with or without a work permit, a contract, written or oral, was agreed upon by your school and yourself. There is no mention otherwise, so I will assume that the employer paid you for your services during the time you worked there and that you were satisfied with this arrangement.

Whether you had the work permit and/or the contract or not, there are always reasons (even without a reason being given) for either side to terminate the agreement. If you are unhappy, then the best and only option is for you to terminate the agreement and walk away. NOTHING will be gained by throwing up the dirt at this point--and there is a risk that much will be lost as all the older posts have mentioned already.

Edited by Jamalbinabdullah

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The "Work Permit Scenario" has been around the education system since the King decreed that all Thais should study English. They employ "native speakers" so that they can teach the students the correct accents and not Thai-style "sing-song" interpretations. Unfortunately they also understand that foreigners that want to stay in Thailand would want to teach English (if all other forms of employment are not open to them). Many schools will tell you that you don't need a Work Permit or just purposely forget to tell you about that requirement so that they can save the 2500 baht fee and paperwork head aches. Most of those schools have "connections" with the local enforcers of those rules and so they don't fear any problems. The problem lies with the labor department and not necessarily immigration officers. If your particular school should fall in disfavor with someone there, they will be the ones to expose you and you'll have BIG problems and not so much for the school.

My personal recommendation is to either pay for the work permit yourself or quit. :)

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Some of the smaller schools and those in less populated areas really don't know how to get a work permit. They seldom deal with foreigners. A friend of mine was in this position. The school was very helpful in supplying him with what he needed, but they didn't have a clue how to do it. He did all the leg work, with some assistance and got a work permit.

I would guess this is a less common scenario than the one where they just don't do it.

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there a lot's of teacher without a WP :)

:D

To be perfectly honest with you; teaching without a WP is your own problem. It takes only a few weeks to get it. If the process takes a while, you should at least inform the labor department that you’ll do all to get it done. Deportation, a fine and a stamp in your Passport isn’t worth doing that.

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Off-topic, but I am curious; what on earth is that a picture of?

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Looks like a v-twin motorcycle engine to me in desperate need of a top end.

It’s a 750cc Yamaha engine, Khun Mouth the Super mechanic here destroyed it, instead of fixing the problem….

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