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The person in question has not been convicted by a court of law yet.

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The "smirk" on his face is from a previous photo, probably a work permit or school id. are you that naive??

Dude, i don't know about you but my WP photo didn't involve a height meter behind me and me holding a sign that had my name and DOB on it.

Yes thats not a work permit or passport photo......definately a police mugshot.

Its true that this guy has not been convicted before a court yet & I guess I am generally blessed in the country that I come from, as the Police don't go around arresting too many people without having a prima facie case.

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Mr Lister Hannah was appointed to the position of Executive Chairman of the Board for PIA Day School in mid 2009, to oversee the strengthening of the present governance and management of the school, and also clarifying and consolidating the strategic direction for developing PIADS as a world-class International Baccalaureate (IB) curriculum school. He will be working closely with Len Peters, Acting Head of School.

In 2000 he became the Founding President of the highly regarded Prem Tinsulanonda Centre for International Education (Prem Centre) in Chiang Mai. He retired from this position in 2006 but retains close ties with the Prem Centre, and is also a consultant with a number of schools and projects in Asia.

Lister has been involved with all three IB Programmes (the Diploma, Middle Years and Primary Years) since the mid-1970s, and has been instrumental in also founding two now fully-IB schools, the Bavarian International School, Germany, and the Prem Tinsulanonda International School, Prem Centre. He has also participated in and led many teams accrediting international schools world-wide.

http://www.phuketinternationalacademy.com/...p#exec-chairman

hmm, now things getting clearer, don't they?

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And you have to ask yourself - would you entrust your toddlers to a 51 year old man working in a day school - a kindergarden? That would set off an alarm bell immediately in my opinion. This guy is going to teach my toddler nursery rhymes?! I'm sorry, that doesn't compute well.

Would you entrust you kids to a 51 y.o. female teacher? If so, then why not a 51 y.o. male teacher? Are men more intrinsically evil than women? We sure are treated that way - and it's about time it stopped.

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I expect this whole forum will be people damning this man before anything has been proven, how can they take the word of a 4 year old and say the man is guilty. The boy could have easily been coached by the mother who could stand to gain financially by this perhaps someone found out he was gay and figured he would make a good target?

We don't know until he is proven guilty, and that will be very hard to prove.

After this forum has become out of control and filled up with bigoted slander, abuse and hearsay it will be taken down and none will know the truth as this forum never follows up.

You accuse others of being damming yet you throw up ridiculous hypothetical statements the other way????

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I request this topic be closed.

strange isn't it? Even the link to Phuket Gazette has disappeared from the 'schools website' :) It was right in the footer.

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I am not going to apologise for playing devil's advocate here, so don't ask me to do so after reading my post.

Why are so many people assuming that this man is guilty before even going to trial? This could be a case of "that teacher gave my son "F" grade, even though i offered a bribe for an "A" grade - which he refused. I'll show the [email protected]".

So what if he had been fired before this accusation came to the attention of the police? The reason he was fired COULD or COULD NOT be linked to this case. If it was linked, why was the school not more reactive in bringing it out in the open? The school were maybe worried that they would suffer damages: -

a) damage to their reputation

:) financial damages in court

c) damages to staff morale

d) damages gross income

e) damages by needing to recruit and train more staff that leave as a result of this case

f) damages realised as a result of reduced productivity

Did the school try to sweep this one under the rug? Were they worried about becoming an accessory to the fact, being implicated by contributing to this offence? They come out and speak now, knowing full well that their name will be dragged through the mud anyway.

According to what i have so far read, i would also say that there is no solid reliable evidence here of this man committing this offence. It is one boy's word against one man's word. What in the World is going on if a people can accuse each other of wrongdoing if no evidence is submitted? You cannot convict this man beyond all reasonable doubt. It is ludicrous. Hey but why let lack of solid evidence get int he way of the truth?

In addition to this, how can a 4 year old (who was approximately 3 at the time of the alleged offence) boy's testimony be reliable? Plus, he cannot remember the date so how can the alleged offence be pinpointed and how can the accused be given fair opportunity to defend himself if the date of the alleged offence is non existent!

A four year old boy is not legally responsible when commiting an offence so why should a 4 year old boy be legally responsible to offer evidence.....i am assuming there were no witnesses? Awfully convenient if you ask me.

So it all boils down to "his word against mine" - who would you believe? a 4 year old (who's parents COULD have alterior motives)..... or a teacher?

If there is evidence then let's see it or hear about it. If the evidence is irrefutable and conclusive then he will be justly convicted.

I personally don't see the logic in hammering this guy (or any other guy, regardless of the nature of the aleged offence) and jumping to conclusions before opening statements in a court of law have been given.

My gut feeling is that there is a lot more to this case than meets the eye. But if he's guilty, he'll be punished!

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Lets also remember that children in the UK start school as young as 4 years old. Are we suggesting that they won't retain anything taught to them, as they have no concept of time/date??

Ask the next kid near you about time and date now and you shall find out.

Are times and dates really important. Events is what matters, sadly because we dont listen to chidren enough so many episodes of abuse go unrecognised and swept under the carpet. You only have to look at the last few legal cases in the UK.

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I doubt the boys in brown would have allowed his name and mug be plastered in public if there was any doubt that he was not guilty or at least had a track record.

Hard to believe that a man like this gets to either 51 or is it 57 without arousing suspicions. I would think that perhaps the school removed him from his position for a related reason. If the school was negligent which seems likely they are equally guilty in my eyes of betraying the trust of the family and more importantly the child. I have to say that in the past 12 months there seems to be an influx of scum bags in the Chalong, Kata and Karon areas abusing young women. As the girls are working girls they dont report the crimes which allows the bast*rds to move about freely. That all said I have met quite a few teachers who claimed to have secured their qualifications on the internet.

So all grand fathers over the age of 50 should also arouse suspicions in regards to their young grand children :D ... Please !!! Age has nothing to do with this.. :)

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Are times and dates really important. Events is what matters, sadly because we dont listen to chidren enough so many episodes of abuse go unrecognised and swept under the carpet. You only have to look at the last few legal cases in the UK.

I have enough reasons to believe that stories have been made up for more or less political reasons like you can find here.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=3437733

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I am not going to apologise for playing devil's advocate here, so don't ask me to do so after reading my post.

Why are so many people assuming that this man is guilty before even going to trial? This could be a case of "that teacher gave my son "F" grade, even though i offered a bribe for an "A" grade - which he refused. I'll show the [email protected]".

So what if he had been fired before this accusation came to the attention of the police? The reason he was fired COULD or COULD NOT be linked to this case. If it was linked, why was the school not more reactive in bringing it out in the open? The school were maybe worried that they would suffer damages: -

a) damage to their reputation

:) financial damages in court

c) damages to staff morale

d) damages gross income

e) damages by needing to recruit and train more staff that leave as a result of this case

f) damages realised as a result of reduced productivity

Did the school try to sweep this one under the rug? Were they worried about becoming an accessory to the fact, being implicated by contributing to this offence? They come out and speak now, knowing full well that their name will be dragged through the mud anyway.

According to what i have so far read, i would also say that there is no solid reliable evidence here of this man committing this offence. It is one boy's word against one man's word. What in the World is going on if a people can accuse each other of wrongdoing if no evidence is submitted? You cannot convict this man beyond all reasonable doubt. It is ludicrous. Hey but why let lack of solid evidence get int he way of the truth?

In addition to this, how can a 4 year old (who was approximately 3 at the time of the alleged offence) boy's testimony be reliable? Plus, he cannot remember the date so how can the alleged offence be pinpointed and how can the accused be given fair opportunity to defend himself if the date of the alleged offence is non existent!

A four year old boy is not legally responsible when commiting an offence so why should a 4 year old boy be legally responsible to offer evidence.....i am assuming there were no witnesses? Awfully convenient if you ask me.

So it all boils down to "his word against mine" - who would you believe? a 4 year old (who's parents COULD have alterior motives)..... or a teacher?

If there is evidence then let's see it or hear about it. If the evidence is irrefutable and conclusive then he will be justly convicted.

I personally don't see the logic in hammering this guy (or any other guy, regardless of the nature of the aleged offence) and jumping to conclusions before opening statements in a court of law have been given.

My gut feeling is that there is a lot more to this case than meets the eye. But if he's guilty, he'll be punished!

I SOOOO TOTALLY AGREE!!! Well said !!!

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