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Import taxes and VAT are usually charged on the full value of the item including the shipping costs, which is why they are often considered unusually high, so the 7,500 baht mentioned does not sound excessive.

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I pay according to Thai law. This just doesn't sink in, does it?

That's a particularly silly comment. As anyone who's dealt in this subject is all too aware. the Thai customs code leaves a lot open to interpretation, and allows the officers to decide in what category they want to classify your items....which can greatly impact the rate of duty to be assessed. Accounts of that are widespread here on TV....

Too much trouble to give even one specific example with real numbers and percentages, huh?

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I pay according to Thai law. This just doesn't sink in, does it?

That's a particularly silly comment. As anyone who's dealt in this subject is all too aware. the Thai customs code leaves a lot open to interpretation, and allows the officers to decide in what category they want to classify your items....which can greatly impact the rate of duty to be assessed. Accounts of that are widespread here on TV....

Too much trouble to give even one specific example with real numbers and percentages, huh?

You start whining and moaning about high taxes + corruption which I claim I have seen nothing of, and all of a sudden you want me to provide details of my business on an internet forum.

Mr, whatever your problem is, it will never get solved here, trust me on that one. Read my previous posts regarding processing of claims and taxation, I then suggest you make the appropriate adjustments to your business in order to comply with Thai law and regulations. In case there's a problem I suggest you raise it with your speditor.

Good Luck, Buddha knows you'll need it....

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Import taxes and VAT are usually charged on the full value of the item including the shipping costs, which is why they are often considered unusually high, so the 7,500 baht mentioned does not sound excessive.

The same rules applies in more or less every country in the world.

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I pay according to Thai law. This just doesn't sink in, does it?

That's a particularly silly comment. As anyone who's dealt in this subject is all too aware. the Thai customs code leaves a lot open to interpretation, and allows the officers to decide in what category they want to classify your items....which can greatly impact the rate of duty to be assessed. Accounts of that are widespread here on TV....

Too much trouble to give even one specific example with real numbers and percentages, huh?

You start whining and moaning about high taxes + corruption which I claim I have seen nothing of, and all of a sudden you want me to provide details of my business on an internet forum.

Mr, whatever your problem is, it will never get solved here, trust me on that one. Read my previous posts regarding processing of claims and taxation, I then suggest you make the appropriate adjustments to your business in order to comply with Thai law and regulations. In case there's a problem I suggest you raise it with your speditor.

Good Luck, Buddha knows you'll need it....

Even the Thai PM has recently aknowledged that Thai customs is the biggest corruption problem in Thailand.

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Yes....but not for Mr. Forethat.... He lives in his own little special world...where the Thai customs staff make sure each of his packages is delivered with a calligraphy note and scented rose... and of course.... they waive all the duty and taxes...just because he's such a special friend of theirs. :whistling:

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Yes....but not for Mr. Forethat.... He lives in his own little special world...where the Thai customs staff make sure each of his packages is delivered with a calligraphy note and scented rose... and of course.... they waive all the duty and taxes...just because he's such a special friend of theirs. :whistling:

Everything I have purchased has been cleared through customs by the speditor. The cost is then charged to my VISA or AMEX card. I have never been hit by taxes exceeding 20%, I have never been told to pay any money to private bank account.

I guess I'm just lucky. And you're unlucky. A lot of bad things appears to happen to you. I feel sorry for you, I honestly do. I hope things turn out good after all.

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I've never been asked to pay into a private account. Once again, mistakely, you're mixing up my comments with those of the OP in this thread...

And frankly, nothing bad's happened to me...except for having to put up with your questionable comments, and previously having been overcharged by Thai customs a couple of times until I learned to stop sending items here via FedEx, DHL or UPS...

Once I got that lesson in hand, life progressed swimmingly... Thank you very much.

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I've never been asked to pay into a private account. Once again, mistakely, you're mixing up my comments with those of the OP in this thread...

And frankly, nothing bad's happened to me...except for having to put up with your questionable comments, and previously having been overcharged by Thai customs a couple of times until I learned to stop sending items here via FedEx, DHL or UPS...

Once I got that lesson in hand, life progressed swimmingly... Thank you very much.

Didn't you write:

Anyone who ships anything into Thailand using Fed-Ex, DHL or UPS -- other than non-dutiable documents -- is either asking for grief or just has too much money and wants to give some away...

The first rule of shipping into Thailand is, don't use those shippers for anything

Well, I'm sorry, but I simply dont have any of the problems you're having. I guess you're just unlucky...:cheesy:

On a similar topic, if corruption is so bad in Thailand, why dont you go back to wherever you came from, that way there will be no more grief? Huh?:giggle:

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Ditto. W Mitty does seem to live in his own world, if he can afford to ship Breitlings around the world he probably do s'nt give a tosh about fee's, or even notices.

What shows him/her up is the usual "If you do'nt like it here go home comment"

Often the last refuge of a sham.:ph34r:

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Let's leave any more personal sparring out of this.  If we can't stick to the topic in a civilized manner, the thread has run its course and will be closed.

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Simple lesson, do not send things by DHL, Fed Ex, etc, send item in an ordinary postpack envelope with declared value nil, gift or secondhand book.

Never opened.

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The thing to bear in mind is that if you ship anything via Courier - whichever Company you use - you will be charged Thai Import Duty and VAT every time - and it may not be the correct Rate of Import Duty because the Courier Company has absolutely no interest in making extra work for themselves by disputing the Rate - or even ensuring that the correct Rate is applied - whatever the Thai Customs Department decides to charge is simply passed on to their Client so they accept every valuation.

If you Import via ordinary Mail etc., there is a good chance that the item will be delivered to your door by the ordinary Postman, with no extra charges.

That is not always true however, I have had parcels held at my local Post Office and received a Bill from the Thai Post Office for Duty etc., I had to go and pay the Charges at the Post Office and then collect the parcel.

To do things properly you should appoint a Freight Forwarder / Customs Clearing Agent here in Thailand and ask them for their corresponding Agent in the Country from which the item is being shipped. The Agent will collect the item from the Seller and ship it to Thailand with full documentation - Air Waybill, Commercial Invoice etc., and your Freight Forwarder here will arrange Customs Clearing on your behalf; you will receive and "Import Entry" Document from them detailing the Tariff Code - which determines the % of Duty, and it also shows the amount of VAT payable. If you want to dispute the Tariff Code or Rate of Duty you can do so via your Agent.

Patrick

Edited by p_brownstone

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Both of the two prior posts contain excellent, and accurate, advice...

That anyone living in Thailand who wants to order products from abroad should avoid using DHL, Fed-Ex and UPS should be printed as a key lesson in the farang newbie's guidebook for living in Thailand. It's one of those things you don't learn until you actually live here and discover how arbitrary and ridiculous the customs/duty process can be.

In my experience, even fully and accurately completing the customs declaration information, I've rarely had any duty assessed when the items are sent by U.S.P.S and then delivered here by regular Thai Post.

PB, i understand your advice about shipping agents... But I'm wondering, not knowing the charges/pricing for that kind of service, whether pursuing that would really make any economic sense for the typical casual, and only occasional, expat shipper.

If I was bringing things in regularly for a business or something, then I could understand that... But for someone who just occasionally orders stuff for home use, and goes the U.S.P.S-Thai Post route, I'm wondering whether a shipping agent would be irrelevant and have no role to play.

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