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well since i'm female, and we dont have pension plans on kibbutz, and i dont like bars, and i have no money, etc etc etc... i was toying with ideas.... i've already told meadish i can do the 4a.m. milkings..i have hands on experience

then there's the idea of a goat farm...... never mind... when the time comes, if it does, then i'll have to look i guess... or else live like a poor issaan farmer, i'll have to practice chewing betel leaves w/o teeth 

why would somebody spy on someone elses' bar, its not like hi tec espionage?!

Hi Bina,

You could make a pension plan. All the females I worked with had one but thats another story. Maybe if I were still young I would do as the younger generation is doing.

However, there is a goat farm about 1 klm from where I stay which does not make money. Infact they were giving goats away to farangs a month or so back. The feeding is too costly if you want to do it properly. Have you ever seen a Thai eat Goat? I have got to admit that the guy who was breeding them has not got a lot of ground for them to graze on. It's just a hobby for him. I tried to make money with ducks and again the feeding was to costly and the ducks were not laying so I had no returns. My wife went to feed them one morning and 70% were dead with a virus, the rest I disposed of. Regard to the spying in the bars:- It could be that they are out seeing the amount of customers other bars have compared to thier own amount of clientel. I have actually seen this and we all talk about it.

By the way, a lot of these poor Isaan farmers are not so poor as you and I think.

Best of luck on whichever adventure you try.

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Just a simple question from a lowly carpenter with a small pot of gold and without a rich father. Is a guesthouse feasible in an Isaan village? Any other options?

Nobody has mentioned the ownership issues.

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Just a simple question from a lowly carpenter with a small pot of gold and without a rich father. Is a guesthouse feasible in an Isaan village? Any other options?

Nobody has mentioned the ownership issues.

Sorry about that but I think it would be too lengthy a subect, we know the results of that....... We know who wins!

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Bina,i saw some large goat herds around the North Bangkok area roaming freely along the verges of roads ,probably catering to the muslims in the city.A goat farm could possibly also work in the far South.If you set up in Isaan you would have high costs to reach your market.

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Bina,

The irrigation canal that runs by my property has the problem of weeds growing in it and along its edges. Could I tether a couple of goats along the canal so they would eat this vegetation? Would they more or less eat it all? Farmers do sometimes tehter cows along the canal but they don't eat most of whats there. I've heard that goats are not finnicky eaters. What do you think?

Chownah

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Only one way of making DECENT MONEY in Essarn, is to buy a b-l-o-o-d-y good printer,
:o

Very true, unfortunately.

Does anyone know of any farang that has made a fortune in Isaan?

I can't think of anyone, apart from my mother-in-law(Thai).

She has a kindergarten and night club ABS(not the same place) and other things going on in Khon Kaen

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A guest house in Isaan is certainly feasible but making money with a guesthouse in Isaan is another question entirely.  Does anyone here have any stories about how much money some farang has made running a guest house in Isaan?  Does anyone here have any stories about some farang that went broke with a guesthouse in Isaan?

And since you describe yourself as a 'lowly carpenter' I will assume that you have no great desire or ability to run a business.  If I am correct in this assumption then there probably isn't any way that you can make money in Isaan.

******** Have been self employed for years ********

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I hear the Bigsnake guesthouse is up for sale,been touted around the banks in the area.

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A "falang" bar, resteraunt, you could spin off doing house rentals/sales car moterbike rentles, internet  sell "falang" foods ect, It would have to be in a fairly big town with a lot of falangs though.... mabye somewhere like Surin :D  :o

Actually If there was somewhere like that near me they would probably make a tidy living as people would drive  from far around to go there.... mabye.  The other option is cows.

**** What a great idea. Surin you say. Hmmmmm. *****

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Only one way of making DECENT MONEY in Essarn, is to buy a b-l-o-o-d-y good printer,
:o

Very true, unfortunately.

Does anyone know of any farang that has made a fortune in Isaan?

I can't think of anyone, apart from my mother-in-law(Thai).

She has a kindergarten and night club ABS(not the same place) and other things going on in Khon Kaen

My wife showed me an article in a Thai news paper, a long time ago about some german (I think) guy who had a 500 head dairy farm there (which would make him one of the biggest in Thailand after Chok Chai (3000 head)). He must be doing pretty good, I recon with 500 head he could be pulling in half a million bhat a month easy (profit).

Although he actually opened with a big herd so he was probably not short of money to start with.

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"pension plan": READ MY LIPS i live on a kibbutz, i dont get a salary, i am not allowed to work and pocket the money, and we are considered independants if we leave, therefore do not receive unemployment, etc.... we are land rich, money poor but the land is not ours to sell...

issaan farmers may be also (some), land rich money poor.... but more and more are selling up land for money which gets spent and then they have: nothing although out ward appearanes may be that they do have more than you think (big car fancy house and gold doesnt mean wealth in the bank!); i'd rather have a flock of healthy chickens /ducks etc for my own use

chownah and alletta... most goats do eat stuff cows and other grazers dont eat, and utilize what they do eat much more efficiently; u need more then one; they like to be in herds (two to five) w/or w/o male (dont need male all year, just for breeding); male goats up to 7-8 months are very good eating; females after giving birth can be milked up to a year if u dont breed again : enough for a family to make their own yoghurt, paneer, etc...

goats do roam more than cows etc so have to tether at least one or have someone keep an eye on them (hand raise and /or make one a pet , she stays close to 'home' and you, and others follow her lead...also, a goat left alone means a goat on the bbq of someone else fairly quickly (at least here in the mid. east)

i definately woudnt make goats a business in n.east thailand; i see from here that the amount of work to amount of milk/cheese makes prices very high. and meat, shipping etc definately a problem, also i suspect that most goat meat eaters probably raise there own (how much goat meat appears in restaraunts in the south?).. but definately for sustainable living i'd go for it

frankly i wouldnt look for a 'get rich' scheme but a 'stay alive subsistence level scheme'; my (long distance) partner is uneducated issaan farmer type with some land so unless someone has a really good idea for making money to live off of, my idea of ever living in thailand may not ever happen unless my teenage children do like old fashioned thai young adults do and go at to work and support me........

as RC says: the guy with big bucks is the one that started with big bucks and could afford to go big.... and get bigger

why is it so difficult to do B&B in issaan: i thought that people want ot see the 'real' rural ethnic thailand, live with the natives etc...??? surely someone who is, say, swedish, can advert in internet in home country for 'homestay' in rural thailand, etcs and make extra money from it?? i'm not talking rolling in the money, but 'additional cash' type thing ... like the clientel that is not looking for sauna, bar and jacuzzi but the more adventurous crowd that want to 'eat live and feel' the way things were... its the big thing here now: every other used to be farmer is doing a few 'a' frames, wife is cooking home cooked country farm fresh eggs etc... and city types pay a ton to feel 'rural'....

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A "falang" bar, resteraunt, you could spin off doing house rentals/sales car moterbike rentles, internet  sell "falang" foods ect, It would have to be in a fairly big town with a lot of falangs though.... mabye somewhere like Surin :D  :o

Actually If there was somewhere like that near me they would probably make a tidy living as people would drive  from far around to go there.... mabye.  The other option is cows.

**** What a great idea. Surin you say. Hmmmmm. *****

I guess that Lampard10 is incommunicado right now..... :D

I am sure he will have something to say soon..... :D

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chownah and alletta... most goats do eat stuff cows and other grazers dont eat, and utilize what they do eat much more efficiently
My cows eat anything, and the "thai" style Brahman/Sahiwal crosses are even better, I do agree on the efficency bit though.... although turning say 30kg of "food" into 20 kg of milk a day is'nt bad.
i definately woudnt make goats a business in n.east thailand; i see from here that the amount of work to amount of milk/cheese makes prices very high. and meat, shipping etc definately a problem, also i suspect that most goat meat eaters probably raise there own (how much goat meat appears in restaraunts in the south?).. but definately for sustainable living i'd go for it
If you do goats in Thailand forget about the milk/cheese unless its for personal use. Its the meat you want, there are 2 goat farms fairly near me, I was talking to the owner of one a few weeks ago, he was really happy with it. You dont have to worry about "shipping" as apparently "agents" come and but direct from the farm...all for consumption down south. With your knowlage of animals you would have a good head start here. It just comes down to the quantities you need to make a decent living. I know some chicken farms that only make 2-3 bhat a head on chickens (every 45 days) but if you have 100,000 of them its not bad, we used to deliver to a farm that had 150,000!!
why is it so difficult to do B&B in issaan
I think its viable as an "add on" to a buissiness, just for a bit of extra cash, but I dont think you would get the quantity of visitors to make a viable living from it. Thought about doing a "home/farmstay" thing myself a few times, but its not very high up on my priorities

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