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Thanks for that Scea. I did sort of expect you to come up with something as you undoubtedly do. :)

maybe I'm one of those farangs, I tend to take things as I see it, my village doesn't help me see it the way it is sometimes.

I'm no Christain, I suppose I'm not mainstream anything. I did have a big downer on bhuddism last week , and I'm probably still dubious after the local safron maffia got fed chicken drumsticks for breakfast and I got fed Pak. Vegetables of somesort . Sh*t, I worked for those chicken legs, although it was sometime ago. B):D

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There are plenty of Buddhist charities

..and a Buddhist charity would be a better option for helping this small group of kids in need because?

Hill tribe people are often stateless - read, no funding or governmental assistance.

Wherever did you get the idea that Hill tribe people are Buddhists?

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There are plenty of Buddhist charities

..and a Buddhist charity would be a better option for helping this small group of kids in need because?

Hill tribe people are often stateless - read, no funding or governmental assistance.

Wherever did you get the idea that Hill tribe people are Buddhists?

He didn't, he was responding to a post which cast some doubt on the charitable nature of the buddhist system.

I reckon you need to move your bed away from the wall mate.

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There are plenty of Buddhist charities

..and a Buddhist charity would be a better option for helping this small group of kids in need because?

Hill tribe people are often stateless - read, no funding or governmental assistance.

Wherever did you get the idea that Hill tribe people are Buddhists?

Am I missing something here !? Surely Bhudhist Charities can help non bhudhist causes. Charities charity right !?

Some Hill Tribe are Bhudhist by the way.

Scea's going to have to do better than that though. His example was Bhudihist (how do you spell that word) from Taiwan or something. I bet they don't each my Chicken Legs. Thai bhudhism does seem to have some unique traits IMNSHO :)

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I'm sure he appreciates you answering for him and flaming me in the process...

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I'm sure he appreciates you answering for him and flaming me in the process...

Lets not flame anyone Guys, This thread will disapear for sure. The Mods are up early this morning :D

Biff needs to spend 15 years in that Village and see where he stands on the Bhuddism thing. Suspect he can't wait for the experience. :D

Scea will probably be back shortly. he's good at it. B)

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The questions that dindong and others raise are good. There are enough organizations in this world that are known for "harvesting kids". The directors won't let anyone near their operations and accept "money only" for contributions. If you want to donate food, clothing, housing or appliances, you aren't welcome at some of them. So, nothing wrong with getting the facts instead of buying into a scam or just accepting it at face value. So, for those of you who have posted with knowledge of this particular place: Where exactly is the place? Give the directions so people can go see for themselves. If you don't have the directions, then you really don't know much about the subject first-hand at all. And if you do, then a much better form of contribution would have been for you to give the location, with directions and encourage others to go there and see for themselves, increasing the chances of the place getting better support. So, at this point, there is some skepticism and rightly so. What can any of you offer to put it to rest? Assaults and insults don't contribute anything.

I don't need the directions but others may. I have never heard of this place but I can find the place by myself. But if you know where it is, place it on the pinned Google map in our pinned topics list. If it checks out, it will probably stay there for others to reference. If it doesn't check out, it will probably disappear.

Sounds like this might be a good destination for a CR Motorcycle Meet and Greet ride in the future. Not the initial one, of course. But maybe the second one. Garry, VF, what do you think?

The local Thai motorcycle clubs do a lot of support for these types of operations. They send some scouts to check it out, find out what is needed and then they make a weekend or more of it, adding living quarters or improvements in whatever ways they can. I'll ask their members what they know of this place.

At least one person on here has said that he contributed appliances and such directly. Good on him and his group.

Religion and these kids. Wow. Big topic. But in a nutshell, any help the kids get is welcome help. They can certainly decide for themselves, as they come of age, which way they want to go. I know lots of folks that got plenty of direction growing up and as they became adults, they made intelligent decisions about whether or not that way of life was for them.

Ethnic Thai or not? Doesn't matter. If someone chooses to raise them without the benefit of government support and interference and can make a go of it, good for them. Each kid only knows his/her life and personal circumstances. He/She doesn't know or care where they fit into the big picture. Later, it may become important. Right now, they just need to be kids.

Buddhist charities. I couldn't say how much good they do world-wide. I can say this. We often have a young monk at our house. He is about 10 or 12 years old. He loves to visit with my mother-in-law. She and his mother were close friends. His mother died about two years ago. The local temple took the kid in, and he is leading the life of a young monk, getting an education, food, shelter, guidance and other good things. He had no one else to turn to. I am told that almost all, if not all, of the temples do the same thing. So, even if they aren't going around the world saving children, they are doing a lot in their own areas. Also, keep in mind that Buddhists are more or less from less affluent countries and therefore, find it harder to have the capital to go to foreign lands and do good. Even then, I'm sure that some of them accomplish that mission.

Christians: Lots of good work, some bad work sometimes, too. No need to throw out the whole barrel because of a bad apple. I personally know of lots of good that has been accomplished and quite a bit of bad as well. I wouldn't throw away the good just to make sure that no bad occurs. The good far outweighs the bad.

Thanks to moderator Lite Beer for getting involved here and thanks to whoever hit the "report" button that caused him to get involved.

So, if anyone is up to a ride this weekend, let me know. We'll take a bit of fresh fruit and some smiles to the place and say "hello". If anyone wants to go with me before that, let me know. I'll tell the wife I have important business to take care of during the week and she will let me take a break from this work at the house. She will go as well. She is Thai and she loves kids. Anyway, it looks like I have a small trip in store this weekend or very soon. I'll post here with what I find unless someone else goes first and gives us a good report. I'll also put it on the map after I find it.

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All the flaming here was done by jingjoe, now conveniently removed.

I live among hillstribe people and am fully aware that few are them are Buddhists. My non-Thai neighbours are predominantly Christian or animist.

I've found that the Thai Buddhists here are tolerant of minorities and the monks are generally fine people.

I find it difficult to condemn them for smoking and buying the occasional lottery ticket when they are compared to some of the clergy of other religions.

I've never at any stage suggested the children referred to here were at risk or undeserving of charity. I don't doubt that the Christians are making a better life for the majority of them.

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All the flaming here was done by jingjoe, now conveniently removed.

I live among hillstribe people and am fully aware that few are them are Buddhists. My non-Thai neighbours are predominantly Christian or animist.

I've found that the Thai Buddhists here are tolerant of minorities and the monks are generally fine people.

I find it difficult to condemn them for smoking and buying the occasional lottery ticket when they are compared to some of the clergy of other religions.

I've never at any stage suggested the children referred to here were at risk or undeserving of charity. I don't doubt that the Christians are making a better life for the majority of them.

Agreed.

kandahar

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I'm sure he appreciates you answering for him and flaming me in the process...

Lets not flame anyone Guys, This thread will disapear for sure. The Mods are up early this morning :D

Biff needs to spend 15 years in that Village and see where he stands on the Bhuddism thing. Suspect he can't wait for the experience. :D

Scea will probably be back shortly. he's good at it. B)

Whether he appreciates it or not is not of the slightest interest to me, and I wasn't flaming, just suggesting kangaroo boy gets out of the right side of the bed so he might not jump down everyones throat. Bit rich saying I was flaming after he's called other people all kinds of names in this thread for doubting the orphanage, and my posts have been supportive of what the 'missionaries' have been doing, hence my comment about his bed.

As for Bhuddism, or any organised religion, I'm an atheist and a socialist. To me, it's all brainwashing of one kind or another, stops people from getting bored I suppose. To each his own.

Edit; seems he got bounced :)

nice idea about the motorcycle group heading up there, kandahar weighing in with his usual good sense and calm vibe :jap:

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Not one mention about my Chicken Legs Guys. :D

But very wise words from both Kd & scea (and Biff) nontheless

I was thinking along the same lines for the motorcy group if it ever takes off.

I'm up for that reccy trip Kd. I dont have anything planned for the weekend. maybe I can take my Kids also.

I'm sure I can contribute even without my Christain or Bhuddhism doctrine. Did I get the spelling right this time ?

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Not one mention about my Chicken Legs Guys. :D

But very wise words from both Kd & scea (and Biff) nontheless

I was thinking along the same lines for the motorcy group if it ever takes off.

I'm up for that reccy trip Kd. I dont have anything planned for the weekend. maybe I can take my Kids also.

I'm sure I can contribute even without my Christain or Bhuddhism doctrine. Did I get the spelling right this time ?

No, you screwed up the spelling, again.

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Not one mention about my Chicken Legs Guys. :D

But very wise words from both Kd & scea nontheless

I was thinking along the same lines for the motorcy group if it ever takes off.

I'm up for that reccy trip Kd. I dont have anything planned for the weekend. maybe I can take my Kids also.

I'm sure I can contribute even without my Christain or Bhuddhism doctrine. Did I get the spelling right this time ?

Well, I didn't really notice your legs when we met, but even if you have got chicken legs, I'm sure someone will still love you!

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Not one mention about my Chicken Legs Guys. :D

But very wise words from both Kd & scea (and Biff) nontheless

I was thinking along the same lines for the motorcy group if it ever takes off.

I'm up for that reccy trip Kd. I dont have anything planned for the weekend. maybe I can take my Kids also.

I'm sure I can contribute even without my Christain or Bhuddhism doctrine. Did I get the spelling right this time ?

No, you screwed up the spelling, again.

:lol: yeah you did :lol:

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Not one mention about my Chicken Legs Guys. :D

But very wise words from both Kd & scea (and Biff) nontheless

I was thinking along the same lines for the motorcy group if it ever takes off.

I'm up for that reccy trip Kd. I dont have anything planned for the weekend. maybe I can take my Kids also.

I'm sure I can contribute even without my Christain or Bhuddhism doctrine. Did I get the spelling right this time ?

Good that you're going and taking the kids. That means you can haul the fruit in the truck or car and the wife and I can ride the motorcycle.

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