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El Shadai Orphanage

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I am in no way saying these people are not in need or that it is bad to help them. I'm just surprised, when we are surrounded by people in need, that we sometime, almost arbitrarily, single out one particular cause as being greater than others. I didn't comment earlier because I already feel like I have enough on my plate. If you want to help that is great. I just had a gut reaction to that one section of the post. Sorry if that bothers you but I'm not taking it back.

And Jubby, I never left, just being all-back-of-the-bus, is all. ;)

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Nah, doesn't really bother me and i don't expect you to take anything back, as always, i respect your opinions :) and yes, we are surrounded by people in need. I am too, here in London, some get help some don't. We do what we choose to do, it's all good, we can't help everybody. Whilst you seem to be ' all back of the bus' right now, I seem to be up-front pissing off the driver! :lol: I'm sure that's inter-changeable.

Cheers, Biff

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I too, found that highlighted bit to be an odd thing to write. I pretty much saw it initially just the same as VF does. But I also thought that a lot of people, including me, sometimes say things that don't quite come out the way we meant them to. I think we all know, if we live in Thailand, we are probably supporting a lot more people than we did in our home country. To me, that is a given. But I also find, for my own circumstances anyway, I am constantly exposed to other groups in need of help here; groups outside of family, much more so than in the old country. And I do help. There are just too many to choose from over here. So, to think that anyone has "finally found a worthy cause" is kind of comical unless you are blind and deaf. However, we all did finally find "THIS" worthy cause and I think that is probably what the poster meant. If it isn't what the poster meant, then yeah, I think he has the wrong idea about how most of us operate over here.

Most of the people I know here are helping others, outside of the family, in the ways that they can. And I am pretty sure that anyone who adds this place to their list already has a pretty full list. In some cases, it will be that whatever is given to this new cause will take away from a previous cause.

So, I saw what VF saw and understood it the same but on contemplating it, I think it wasn't meant as it was written. And I had about three hours to think about it before I wrote anything in reply to it. It usually helps me if I digest info before dragging out the big pencil. I too, am kind of slow.

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The highligting of this place and I will not call it an orphanage because by all accounts it is not, brings the subject of Hilltribe people to the fore.

Most of the members on this board who have been here a few years, know of many more and maybe more deserving places requiring aid.

I certainly do, and mostly without any religion attached.

Some friends and I support a small village in the Doi Wawee area, nothing big but a continuous donation which educates and feeds the poorer families in the village and no strings attached.

Finally in this case I would not shoot the messenger because he has done more for this place in a few days that their sponsors have done in years.

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The highligting of this place and I will not call it an orphanage because by all accounts it is not, brings the subject of Hilltribe people to the fore.

Most of the members on this board who have been here a few years, know of many more and maybe more deserving places requiring aid.

I certainly do, and mostly without any religion attached.

Some friends and I support a small village in the Doi Wawee area, nothing big but a continuous donation which educates and feeds the poorer families in the village and no strings attached.

Finally in this case I would not shoot the messenger because he has done more for this place in a few days that their sponsors have done in years.

Hey dindong.

If you're making a run to that village in the future, I would appreciate an invite. I would like to see what they have and what they haven't. Maybe I'll see something there that I can help with.

kandahar

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Hi all, If I have offended anyone, please, accept my apologies. I have re-read what I wrote several times, and, I agree, I could have worded it better. All I was trying to say was that if you are able to help in any way, we would be very appreciative. Cheers.

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I'm actually happy to see all the information come out about this place. As said previously most of us have extended families, but it can't hurt to help out if one can. I think the hardest part is that most people (like myself) aren't aware of a lot of people that are in need in their local area and can only act on what they know or what they feel is right thing for them to do. In short I think any kind of donation or gift would be appreciated, even if it is a 'one off'. Making no donations isn't bad either as we all have varying commitments in our communities and can at least pass on this information for others with perchance the ability to act on this if they can. :jap:

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Thanks to the TV members for all the comments

It has been shown that the local TV members do get things done, as well as supporting a lot more places, rather than just one location.

It seems to me that the TA ones here still have not got the hint.

I will leave it at that.

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Let us not turn a positive into a negative. It was a bit confusing at first but hopefully the visit took care of that. Let us focus on the positive.

Those who choose to do nothing. I respect that ABSOLUTELY without reservation. Those who choose to do something I applaud ABSOLUTELY. Anything else is illogical.

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It has been added to the pinned Google map. If you find it on the "map" version, you can click on the "Earth" version and see that the marker is exactly on top of a reddish colored roof. That is the older, main house. Several buildings have been built there since the pic was taken and lots of neighbors homes have gone up since then as well. Directions to follow shortly.

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It has been added to the pinned Google map. If you find it on the "map" version, you can click on the "Earth" version and see that the marker is exactly on top of a reddish colored roof. That is the older, main house. Several buildings have been built there since the pic was taken and lots of neighbors homes have gone up since then as well. Directions to follow shortly.

Thanks bud, that will be a doddle to find now :D

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Directions: Immediately after you cross the highway 1207 river bridge near Rim Kok Resort, travel 1.25 K. Arrive at a stop sign, intersection with Meakok Road. Be careful. Traffic from the right does not stop, you have a stop sign but NOBODY wants to stop there, so even if you stop, you're likely to get rear-ended by someone behind you who is used to flying through that intersection. Also oncoming traffic does not stop and may turn left in front of you. From that stop sign, continue forward for almost another 1.25 K, which will now be a total of 2.4 K from the river bridge. At that point, you will see on your right a big display containing a pic of Thai royalty and two huge gold fish under and on either side of the pic. Lots of signs accompany the display. See pic below-

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A note: As you are looking at that sign complex, you will see a tall gold temple spire in the right background of the scenery.

At that sign/intersection,turn right and proceed down the winding road approximately .75 K. At that point, or shortly before, you will see this house in front of you and on the right. That house is on the street you want. Turn right onto that street and pass this house-

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This road is concrete. There are several branches off of this road but they are gravel or dirt. Stay on the concrete and wind around and climb the hill. At .4 K, you will be ready to crest the highest point of the concrete road and you can see El Shaddai on the right, exactly at the crest. Here it is as you will see when getting close. It is the boys dorm and the little thatched driveway gate is where you turn into the place.

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If you pass the place, you will start downhill from there and will run out of concrete within 50 meters or so. If you head their way, here are some numbers you can call. I'm not sure which is best to reach them but all of the numbers are published as points of contact for that couple.

Ph. 6653-150280, 6684-8103145, 6689-4359185

If you click on these pics and they open too big for you computer, exit that and try a right-click on the pic and select "Open in new tab". They should open in a new tab just right for your computer screen. This is for the new Version of Google Chrome Browser and Internet Explorer, new version. Firefox, other browsers or Mac, I can't help you.

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Better late than never? I hope so. Sorry for the delay. Here's some pics of the trip to the kid's home we ( Scorpio1945, jubby, kandahar, one anonymous guy and the wives/girlfriends took a couple of weeks ago. If the pics open too big, then try right-click and open in new tab.

The kids, Mom and Dad, Dad and one of our own having a laugh, the kids with our ladies and Mom and Dad :

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Last, but not least, two pics of the ladies with the kids, Mom and Dad, and the two brave TV men who decided it was okay to stand before the camera.

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