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Phuket Murder Suspect Lee Aldhouse Arrested At UK Airport

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Boater - not really sure, just hanging out with a brit friend of mine a couple of nights ago and he said to me "apparently he's on a plane from cambodia to the uk right now and they will nab him when he lands in the uk" he told me who told him but it was someone i didn't know so i dont really recall a name or anything.. then i heard the same thing again the next day from another brit that they hnow had him. whether this came from the same source or not i really have no idea. so i guess i'm repeating heresay tho the bit bout him being nabbed in the airport is obviously true =)

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They should send him to Iraq or Afghanistan and send him out on patrol..........

by himself !!

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it will be interesting to see what his exact route was out of Thailand, also what his version of events where

If he is smart he says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

Nobody will be beating a confession out of him in the Uk he has the right to remain silent and put the burden of proof on the prosecuiton of thialand.

If I was him I would be well happy to be home

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While I might be considered an "expert" in some things, I freely admit that Law is not one of them. As such, I am just wondering about a few things.

1) I'm fairly certain that the UK would not extradite him back to Thailand UNLESS Thailand guaranteed not to seek the death penalty. Otherwise, it's a no-go.

2) Seeing as how it was an American serviceman he killed, does, or would the U.S. have any jurisdictional say in this matter, such as having him extradited there to try him?

3) Could he, with the assistance of Thai police and authorities, be tried in England for the murder?

Anyone with answers, not speculation please, to #2 & 3, would be welcome.

1) He will never be extradited

2) No way

3) Yes

How do I know? Experience.

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We have a similar circumstance in Qld Australia.

USA couple on honeymoon, they go diving at the barrier reef, he is a dive instructor. He does something to her under the water and lets her sink and drown. (vary basic details sorry)

Anyway, he was originally charged with murder but manslaughter was on the table and he pleaded guilty to that. He will get out next year but the USA have sought extradition for him to be charged with murder in USA. Qld government won't allow the extradition because the state in question allows the death penalty. So the head honcho in the USA wrote to confirm they won't request the death penalty and our government has agreed to send him back.

By the way, I originally thought of the double jepeordy rule by doing this but the USA can charge him becaue they base the murder charge on information that he began the preparation for it whilst there on the fact he upped her insurance.

I would think that this guy cannot be charged for this offence in the UK because he committed no crime there or plotted the crime there but a letter requesting an undertaking not to request the death penalty in Thailand would make the extradition possible.

Just my thoughts.

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he might be sent to the USA.

:lol:

I truly hope so, as once the gangsters inside find out the twit of a Brit killed a decorated Marine I guarantee you he will be wishing he had gotten the death penalty.

Don't drop the soap Lee.............

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The usual round of Thai police bashers have fronted up. Welcome!

The fact that he was nabbed at a UK port of entry means that the Thai, British and whatever third (or fourth) country's police successfully worked TOGETHER to ensure he was taken into custody in a country where he's unlikely to escape, pay-off a border guard or otherwise escape justice. This means that the UKBA's fledgling e-Borders system works and works well. It's not just for serial speeding ticket dodgers any more. Watch for the UK government wonks making much of this high-profile success.

For those waiting earnestly for Thai prosecutors to <deleted> up the extradition, keep in mind that it was a US citizen he killed so there's probably already an agreement in place that the death sentence will be taken off the table for the purposes of pissing off the civil libertarians and getting this suspect back to Phuket. After he gets inside the Bangkok Hilton, they can agree to restate the charges and punishment. However, before that happy moment, I would bet that he will be, through his counsel, claiming how he is an unwilling victim of steroid abuse, have come from a broken home, unlikely to get a fair trial, has a dieing mother and the usual stream of excuses.

He has another out ok lets say they guarantee he wont be executed FINE but if I was his lawyer I would go after the conditions of the Bangkok Hilton which has many many charges fo Human rights abuses and they have a very valid case to deny extradition on the basis that his human rights would be denied if locked up in the Bangkok Hilton

Unfortunatley the UK and Euorpe are very Human rights orinetated and I think he has a very good case to avoid extradition on multiple fronts.

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Very fishy...maybe he bought his way out of the kingdom. Or he flied from a neighbor country. Almost sure he won't be extradited too, since he's risking the death penalty here in thai. It would be a shame if he got away with a so meaningless and horrendous murder so easily...

We discussed the Swede a few days ago - sentenced for a 1st.degree murder on a Thai bar girl back in 2005- he was released after 5 years.

I hope he will rot in a Thai prison.

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The usual round of Thai police bashers have fronted up. Welcome!

The fact that he was nabbed at a UK port of entry means that the Thai, British and whatever third (or fourth) country's police successfully worked TOGETHER to ensure he was taken into custody in a country where he's unlikely to escape, pay-off a border guard or otherwise escape justice. This means that the UKBA's fledgling e-Borders system works and works well. It's not just for serial speeding ticket dodgers any more. Watch for the UK government wonks making much of this high-profile success.

For those waiting earnestly for Thai prosecutors to <deleted> up the extradition, keep in mind that it was a US citizen he killed so there's probably already an agreement in place that the death sentence will be taken off the table for the purposes of pissing off the civil libertarians and getting this suspect back to Phuket. After he gets inside the Bangkok Hilton, they can agree to restate the charges and punishment. However, before that happy moment, I would bet that he will be, through his counsel, claiming how he is an unwilling victim of steroid abuse, have come from a broken home, unlikely to get a fair trial, has a dieing mother and the usual stream of excuses.

He has another out ok lets say they guarantee he wont be executed FINE but if I was his lawyer I would go after the conditions of the Bangkok Hilton which has many many charges fo Human rights abuses and they have a very valid case to deny extradition on the basis that his human rights would be denied if locked up in the Bangkok Hilton

Unfortunatley the UK and Euorpe are very Human rights orinetated and I think he has a very good case to avoid extradition on multiple fronts.

OK, so the extraditing authorities agree NOT to seek the death penalty and NOT to put him up at the Bangkok Hilton. As soon as another 'out' is invented, it's summarily circumvented.

He may as well be already on his way back IMHO.

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ok so other news source says cambodia-singapore-uk

He left Thailand via Khlong Yai immigration on August 17 for Cambodia. The crossing does not have a computer data base.

It is believed Aldhouse then went to Singapore, where he boarded the flight bound for London.

also this is 3 DAYS ! after the murder and Phuket police had supposedly notified EVERY border agency, someone there will be getting the sack i think

also i am surprised no one at singpaore spotted him ... also was he using a fake passport ? or .......

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He has another out ok lets say they guarantee he wont be executed FINE but if I was his lawyer I would go after the conditions of the Bangkok Hilton which has many many charges fo Human rights abuses and they have a very valid case to deny extradition on the basis that his human rights would be denied if locked up in the Bangkok Hilton

Unfortunatley the UK and Euorpe are very Human rights orinetated and I think he has a very good case to avoid extradition on multiple fronts.

He may as well be already on his way back IMHO.

NO CHANCE he will immediately request a lawyer he has a right to a lawyer and they will delay any extradition

Its gonna take a while

Y gotta understand even if a person is found guilty they are still entitled to eat and be treated like a human being which is not what happens in the Bangkok Hilton even if we disagree the UK is so out of whack and treats criminals better then victims

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As he faces the death Penalty will he be extradited???

Not that straight forward as you would expect, this is covered in the Extradition Act of 2003 which has been ratified by the Thai Government, Thailand is a Category 2 country for the purpose of the act.

A person can be extradited to a country that has the death penalty for the crime for which the person who is subject to the extradition request is accused, however the Secretary of State has to receive a written undertaking that the death penalty will not be imposed, or if it has already been imposed, will not be carried out.

Section 94 Death penalty

(1) The Secretary of State must not order a person's extradition to a category 2 territory if he could be, will be or has been sentenced to death for the offence concerned in the category 2 territory.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply if the Secretary of State receives a written assurance which he considers adequate that a sentence of death (a) will not be imposed, or will not be carried out (if imposed).

Unless he agrees to extradited this will be a long and complex procedure.

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