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I think you both are speaking about different people! The young man at the corner of soi 7 was there quit a time around July 2009: http://www.flickr.co...57601981409481/

That's the guy!!!!

There's the Camel store behind him...

So where is he now? I hope he made it back home.

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I think you both are speaking about different people! The young man at the corner of soi 7 was there quit a time around July 2009: http://www.flickr.co...57601981409481/

That's the guy!!!!

There's the Camel store behind him...

So where is he now? I hope he made it back home.

I never tried to talk with him after my experience with the American sitting in front of Nana Square who lost his normal sence a bit, although I was curious because he was always good visible present. Eating a bit, looking some hours and disappeared.

I am also curious what this farang was doing besides making music: http://www.antoni-uni-photography.com/Thailand-Asia-Antoniuni/Bangkok-strolls/Bangkok-Sukhumvit-Nana/10520844_ikSVp#906812612_SHZzE-A-LB

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In regards to the Canadian , he does stand a chance to be repatriated by the Canadian embassy , but he must get an interview with a Canadian national , the Thai people there will more or less tell him to fuc-k off . They can buy him a one way first class ticket which he is obliged to repay the cost of at a later date , he could enquire about refugee status as if he stays in Thailand his life could be in jeopardy . The welfare state could be called in to assist him to re-establish himself , you as a friend could check all of this out on the government site and other locations .

that is good. many of these guys would refuse to fly economy.

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...the Thai people there will more or less tell him to fuc-k off...

That's exactly true. The Canadian Consulate is notorious for not helping ANYONE. If you ever get a chance to walk into the Canadian Consulate you would never suspect that there might actually be White people living in Canada.

I had a friend that had a few unfortunate episodes of bad luck (and this can happen to anybody) which when compounded effectively rendered him penniless. He went to the Canadian Consulate, explained his predicament, and begged for any kind of assistance to help him out of this temporary rut; They REFUSED to do ANYTHING. He then informed them that he was a diabetic, and asked can they at least provide him with funds to purchase his necessary medicine; NO CAN DO.

Essentially they sent this person out on the street to die, knowing full well he wouldn't survive long without medicine.

My guess is the guy that the OP saw, had already gone to the Canadian Consulate and received the exact same treatment. If no one else helped him he's most likely dead. The Canadian Consulate probably paid to have his body shipped back to Canada and thought, "there's one less case we have to worry about!"; NEXT! :annoyed:

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People fall into spirals of decline everywhere in the world. But if you are foreigner going through this, you also have visa problems. It isn't very surprising that out of large pool of people, that some are falling off the edge and/or basically dying.

Edited by Jingthing

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When reading sad stories about how people back in the west ended up on the streets.

How fast it goes for some people, after they lose job, family, then house, etc.

It can happen surprisingly fast in the UK.

I went from married middle class schoolteacher and elected town councilor with a house and family to unemployed and unemployable homeless 'person of interest' regularly picked up by the police in 3 months.

Nothing I did to start the slide, and nothing I could do to stop it, apart from leave the country.

Edited by pjclark1

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Funny that a lot of people conveying opinions on here assume that the guy has fallen into this predicament through bad luck or by circumstances out of his control.

In many of the bigger cities (and not so big) around the world you will find these types that others address as "vagrants", but in reality these people have just had enough of this materialistic money worshipping society and just opt to check out.

I actually took time to talk to one of these "streetwalkers" in East Coast Australia. This particular guy was university educated and had once had a very good job, until his marriage broke up and various other bad luck had befallen him. The result was that he could'nt care less in participating in "normal" life again, sold everything he'd owned, and lived as would a homeless person in rough tents around beaches and international parks, and pretty much wherever he could. He had an old push bike and reportedly had travelled a good part of Australia on it.

He said the experience was very freeing, not having possessions to worry or having things to insure, covet and protect. Obviously he had no desire to return to what was considered normal society. His story is well known and collaborated around the local area.

I guess he liked the freedom of having no-one to answer to and not having to be accountable to anyone.

Also, he apparently had no shortage of funds in the bank and although not overly worried, one of his concerns was where his money would go after he died.

I think a lot of these drifters may end up in Bangkok, due to the lower cost of survival.

So, who's to know whether these people have not chosen to be this way and are completely happy and at peace with their existance???

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...the Thai people there will more or less tell him to fuc-k off...

That's exactly true. The Canadian Consulate is notorious for not helping ANYONE. If you ever get a chance to walk into the Canadian Consulate you would never suspect that there might actually be White people living in Canada.

I had a friend that had a few unfortunate episodes of bad luck (and this can happen to anybody) which when compounded effectively rendered him penniless. He went to the Canadian Consulate, explained his predicament, and begged for any kind of assistance to help him out of this temporary rut; They REFUSED to do ANYTHING. He then informed them that he was a diabetic, and asked can they at least provide him with funds to purchase his necessary medicine; NO CAN DO.

Essentially they sent this person out on the street to die, knowing full well he wouldn't survive long without medicine.

My guess is the guy that the OP saw, had already gone to the Canadian Consulate and received the exact same treatment. If no one else helped him he's most likely dead. The Canadian Consulate probably paid to have his body shipped back to Canada and thought, "there's one less case we have to worry about!"; NEXT! :annoyed:

I take it it wasn't close friend then???

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A lot of these types have plenty of money to live on, but are just a little wacky. We had one German in Chiang Mai who looked like an older Robinson Crusoe who would hang out alone on the benches at Thapae Gate for years, who turned out to be quite wealthy.

There is another Italian guy who has worn the same white t-shirt and gym pants for years and hardly ever talks to anyone. He is always carrying a plastic bag, but most people do not realize that it contains a book which he exchanges every couple of days for a new one, so he has money.

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I take it it wasn't close friend then???

No he wasn't, but I still helped him out, and I have far less disposable income than the Canadian Consulate has.

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So, who's to know whether these people have not chosen to be this way and are completely happy and at peace with their existance???

I'm sure foreigners living rough on the streets of Suhkumvit are very content with their situation and feel a profound sense of peace and freedom

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So, who's to know whether these people have not chosen to be this way and are completely happy and at peace with their existance???

I'm sure foreigners living rough on the streets of Suhkumvit are very content with their situation and feel a profound sense of peace and freedom

Of course, and if you ask them are they happy living that way, and they say yes, some might say that is strong evidence of mental illness.

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they manage to romanticize a real social problem, trivialize it, and divorce themselves from any responsibility or social concern about it.

That is not difficult in a country that is crawling with poor people in every nook and cranny. How many knee-jerk, expat "liberals" are doing anything to help them out (other than paying their bar-fine)? :unsure:

Edited by Ulysses G.

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they manage to romanticize a real social problem, trivialize it, and divorce themselves from any responsibility or social concern about it.

That is not difficult in a country that is crawling with poor people in every nook and cranny. How many knee-jerk, expat "liberals" are doing anything to help them out (other than paying their bar-fine)? :unsure:

That really isn't the point. The point is the liberals are not making up romantic right wing politically inspired fantasies about how wonderful obviously suffering people's existences are.

It's really not that far from those kinds of delusional rationalizations to make assertions that slaves were really mostly happy with their lives, and abolitionists were over-reacting.

Next ...

Edited by Jingthing

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The point is that just sitting at the computer whining about it does not change anything. :whistling:

Edited by Ulysses G.

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