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to try and get the extra gramms on the piglet we up the feed at day (approx) 55 to 3kg. today the born average on 3 litters has been just under 2kg, born alive "good "numbers 12,14,14.  2 litters  had a piglet each aorund */- 1.kg i class them at a loss, ie not 100 percent.

some time in the past we had a problem of piglets being born toooo big, 2.5kg plus. for us its find line between to much and not enough during gestation....

do you ultrasound scan or just visual check? we had a gilt go through the 100 day this week thinking she was in pig... but for sure she aint.....

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11 hours ago, jompa67 said:

 

We use FarmScan-M50

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Cost around $1.200 on ebay 

thats a good price, we used to have access to 2 units, the cheaper one being a chinese unit, i think the cheap one was 80,000 baht plus and the good one from usa was 140,000 baht plus..... they both just detected mass/blobs, could not see if alive or mummified.... 

using this unit do you find it 100 percent correct? ie never no late Not In Pig...mummified litters

 

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On 2018-05-02 at 4:15 AM, thoongfoned said:

thats a good price, we used to have access to 2 units, the cheaper one being a chinese unit, i think the cheap one was 80,000 baht plus and the good one from usa was 140,000 baht plus..... they both just detected mass/blobs, could not see if alive or mummified.... 

using this unit do you find it 100 percent correct? ie never no late Not In Pig...mummified litters

 

Our workers just use it to find out if they are pregnant or not. It can scan deeper than many other of more expensive models but we have not test it for mummified yet.

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A month or so ago I was asked about my farrowing areas. I have just found a couple of pictures of the pens we use. Sorry there isnt a shot of the whole pen but you should get some idea. They are 1.5 metres wide and 5 metres long and were built as nursery pens. A metre inside the the pen I can attach a fence which contains the sow feeder which is put in place when the sow is placed in the pen to farrow. The piglets can walk under the fence into the 1x1.5 creep area. This allows me an area to handle the piglets without interference from the sow. At weaning the piglets stay in the pen and the sow and fence are removed. 

bill busbridge pict of nursing pen 2012.jpg

2012-05-06 18.12.24.jpg

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Thanks, the feeders I built were a real winner. The same system was used in the group sow pens, the boars and for finisher pigs. They could be filled from the centre aisle and cleaned out as well so there was almost feed or cleaning mess inside of the pens. Made things a lot easier than trying to feed full size breeders inside the pens. No wrestling or push and shove. Because the feeder tubs are mostly outside the fence they are naturally separated so each pig had its own feed dish, so no arguments. As soon as they heard the feed buckets being filled they all stood and waited at they own bowl. Very civilised.

 

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19 hours ago, sateuk said:

Got 3 sows want to sell as to old and 1 aggressive does any1 no where can sell in buriram area and how much is it a kg thanks

 

We have 8 old sow to sell. My wife told me that we can get 30/kg if they are in good condition. I was calculating for 25 bath/kg, so I'm happy.

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1 hour ago, jompa67 said:

 

We have 8 old sow to sell. My wife told me that we can get 30/kg if they are in good condition. I was calculating for 25 bath/kg, so I'm happy.

i think its 40 ish baht kg +/- this month, culling some today so will ask what they are buying at... they dont weigh them just buy on sight...... bulk loads 100 + sow a time, many farms in one day.

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On 5/19/2018 at 6:14 PM, altcar bob said:

Thailand attempting tp block pork imports from USA,  Thailand pricing around 74 kilo    USA 50 Baht   US decimated Vietnam farmers...they will never be blocked

the wife works for one of the big aggro companies here in thailand, from what i can make out/understand they are trying (and doing) to cut costs on a very large scale.ie changing contract pay structures for farrowing/weaning and finishing farms, this alone will save many millions  baht per day....  (1000's of farms all over thailand) also cancelling farm contracts that can not/dont meet the grade... thats on top of other pay "cuts" over the last year... also changing alot of internal jobs/structure, again just from what im told and also the moans of the workers that i see most weeks.  

in the past the pay rises have been very good so its not all doom and gloom, but.....

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We sold today they just gave us a price no weighing involved I think judging by the weight we got about 25 baht a kg which is better than nothing would of taken them myself but don't no where to take in buriram!!  I think they sell for 35 baht a kg but they take to surin way

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1 hour ago, thoongfoned said:

i think its 40 ish baht kg +/- this month, culling some today so will ask what they are buying at... they dont weigh them just buy on sight...... bulk loads 100 + sow a time, many farms in one day.

35 baht kg here today. they have to travel, 4 plus hour drive home.... all new pickups and lorries.... no money in pigs though........

 

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5 minutes ago, sateuk said:

We sold today they just gave us a price no weighing involved I think judging by the weight we got about 25 baht a kg which is better than nothing would of taken them myself but don't no where to take in buriram!!  I think they sell for 35 baht a kg but they take to surin way

when the wife can she buys reject sow/finishers from contract farms, then sells the meat in lots, 500, 1000 baht bits of mixed cuts. dont buy that often now,(clamping down on deals for individuals) but have to be ready quick to get this sort of deal ie pick up now, money now... @ 35 baht kg there is good money to be had from 200kg+++ sows

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10 minutes ago, thoongfoned said:

35 baht kg here today. they have to travel, 4 plus hour drive home.... all new pickups and lorries.... no money in pigs though........

 

Where are you based thoongfoned? We was happyish with what we got anyway it saves keeping them for an extra few weeks trying to get a few more baht all the while costing us to keep feeding them which isn't cheap

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