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I fly to Australia Saturday, the week's a lost cause anyway.... :realangry::annoyed::angry:

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Americans don't understand good food, probably comes from not having a national cuisine of their own.

I said this to a Chiang Mai bookshop owner once and he became quite irate and said I should try the Chinese food in San Francisco, the Mexican food in Texas and the pizzas in Noo Yawk before I made that sort of comment. :rolleyes:

The State of California produces more food than any country in the EU, or Australia, or the entire continenet of Africa. I live in Arizona and 5,000,000,000

Kg of frsh produce enters America through our port, much of it winds up in Canada. 5 THB for a Kg of oranges a few years ago. Limes (big ones) were 40 for a Dollar. USDA Choice Sirloin for 100 THB per Kg. French wine is 3 Dollars per bottle, but I prefer California wine at a similar price. The US is the World's leader in every aspect of eating. From seed to sanitation. Sorry for the rant....

Regarding WCH, let me throw in my two pesos. Sparkling clean restrooms, looks like a great place to take a date. The beer was cold, the french fries looked good--not those cheap shoestring ones that most places serve and sell for 20 thb per Kg in the States. The owner is a gentlemen, as he demonstrated here.

IMO, his prices are too high. The pizzas are cooked in a wood oven, and that can be extra tricky to get right. I don't get excited about Western food here. I have a McDonalds about 200 meters from my townhouse in The States, and I have been in there one time in the last year, and that was to get a cup of coffee to go with my 16 USD per liter bottle of Jameson I buy at the Duty free store on the Mexican border. My cholesterol was 167 last month and that even got a thumbs up from a Thai Nurse. Not bad for someone, who used to live on a cattle ranch. Cheese, sausage (many seem to look like hot dogs), and hamburgers don't get me real excited, and especially when it is double the price of what I pay back home. I do wish Barry best of luck.

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I remember a few weeks ago about opening a high quality restaurant. The complaints and disadvandices about opening times, distance and surroundings were so many that I decided not to even give it a try. So you all complainers, look at yourself first

Just do what I do... cook yourself a quality meal yourself!

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I remember a few weeks ago about opening a high quality restaurant. The complaints and disadvandices about opening times, distance and surroundings were so many that I decided not to even give it a try. So you all complainers, look at yourself first

Just do what I do... cook yourself a quality meal yourself!

What is a Quality meal ?

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I remember a few weeks ago about opening a high quality restaurant. The complaints and disadvandices about opening times, distance and surroundings were so many that I decided not to even give it a try. So you all complainers, look at yourself first

Just do what I do... cook yourself a quality meal yourself!

Your point is hardly valid here. No matter how much cooking we do at home, most of us tend to want to get out once in a while and have something good while we're at it.

An out of the way restaurant ISN"T a good idea for the owner, in most cases here. Places that are centrally located and do a decent job are struggling, as it is. If you're so sure of your idea, jump in with both feet; don't complain about the sound, honest, respectful advice that you ASKED for in your originally post. Rude behavior, on your part.

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5* FOOD , thats what caught my eye a I walked down Jetyod Rd. The sign in the Coconut bar was offering Roast Lamb , Roast and mashed potaotes, steamed veg with an onion gravy , 250 Bht.

As I have not eaten Roast lamb for gaes , thought I would give it a go .

The plate arrived 25 minutes after ordering , being held by one of the waitress/bar staff who was wearing a mitten so not to burn her hand while carrying it. The plate was hot and so was the food.

It looked to me as all the food was microwaved as it was all the same temperature but sadly the plate the food was served on had a massive crack from the side right the way through to the centre. I didnt dare touch or move the plate incase it broke in half.

Now , The 5* Food, I think NOT !!!!

The 3 small ice cream scoops of mash spud was totally tasteless, the Roast Potatoes were as anemic as the mashed spud, next to no way of knowing they had even been roasted at all . The Vegetables, Broccoli , Cauliflower and Carrots , all ok other than like the rest of the food pretty tasteless. The Roast Lamb, 3 and a half slices of tender meat but had an old taste to it , as if it had been hanging around for a while . Not what I was expecting at all. The meat was covered in an onion gravy which didnt help what so ever , if anything just added to the misery of eating it. There was a small dish of mint sauce sitting on top of the sugar it had been mixed with but ended up on the bottom of the dish.

Over all , for 250 bht , I would not go and eat there again , a very poor ROAST in my opinion and never worth the 250 bht price tag regardless of how much lamb costs to buy in the shops.

Again People , if your going to offer Western Food, with Western Prices, get it bloody right , I hate having to pay for food that is expensive and not good. Before you all jump on me , I did pay for it and I did tell the waitress that the 5* food didnt even warrent a 1*, not her fault I know but its down to the owners to ensure the meals offered are of a high standard. If the Thai staff cant cook western Fare to a standard we expect then the Western owner should do it himself .

Grrrrr !!!!

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I have eaten there twice. Found the music way too loud both times. We always sit towards the front. Maybe it isn't so bad in back. MY hearing already isn't good. Maybe one day when it is gone altogether, the place won't get on my nerves so much.

I have had the fish and chips both times. Great stuff. The other three in our party have had good luck with their orders as well. But last time, we all agreed that we wouldn't go again because we have to shout to be heard.

The tables- Funny place. The tables are rough cut from trees and have lots of little places for your drink glasses to fall through. We shattered one that hit the floor the last time we were there. The lady didn't charge us for it.

Anyway, I dunno anything about roast lamb. But I hope the place continues to be successful. It isn't my kind of place but it is a regular spot for many of CR's finest. For those who haven't tried it because you think it is just another bar on Jetyod, keep in mind that they make some good food there and, other than the music, they have some good things going for them.

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I have eaten there twice. Found the music way too loud both times. We always sit towards the front. Maybe it isn't so bad in back. MY hearing already isn't good. Maybe one day when it is gone altogether, the place won't get on my nerves so much.

I have had the fish and chips both times. Great stuff. The other three in our party have had good luck with their orders as well. But last time, we all agreed that we wouldn't go again because we have to shout to be heard.

The tables- Funny place. The tables are rough cut from trees and have lots of little places for your drink glasses to fall through. We shattered one that hit the floor the last time we were there. The lady didn't charge us for it.

Anyway, I dunno anything about roast lamb. But I hope the place continues to be successful. It isn't my kind of place but it is a regular spot for many of CR's finest. For those who haven't tried it because you think it is just another bar on Jetyod, keep in mind that they make some good food there and, other than the music, they have some good things going for them.

Your observation of the music and carpentry style of the furniture is outstanding .

As for the food there , well , I can only comment on what I have had. There is a section on the Forum for good restaurants and food to comment in as I have done with other places visited.

If the food had by others was to their liking then good for them but I will post my comments on what I feel to be crap . If I had ordered the fish and chips then they may have had a better review, but in the right section of the forum and not in the woodwork column. :D As for not knowing anything about Roast Lamb , says to me your culinary skills are less limited than your woodworking observations. Eat Hamburgers with Ketchup If I were you !!! :D

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Threads like this are totally subjective.

Whilst i actually agreed with you about the Pizza that started it all off, and I have also been less than impressed with the breakfast in Coconuts, everybody has different taste, and what appears tasteless to some of us, is perfectly fine to others.

I lived for a number of years in Pattaya and can count on the fingers of one hand, how many times I ate farang food there (where they SHOULD know how to cook it) that was acceptable to me, but each place I found disappointing was nearly always full of apparently satisfied customers which clearly means my taste is the minority.

Conclusion here is simple. We live in Thailand, we cannot expect farang food to be cooked as it is at home. It is not just the staff but the quality of ingredients that they have to work with.

My humble suggestion is you either do what I do and cook the farang food I occasionally fancy myself, (or teach your wife/gf to do it), give the local food a try or failing that return home more regularly.

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It hasnt anything to do with Thailand , its to do with teaching people how to cook.

You can go to any restaurant around the world and order what ever takes your fancy but you will always expect the food to be first class, no one likes to pay for 3rd rate food. Sadly we do get disappointed on occasions . Generally I do cook at home, especially the foods that I like from around the world, eg, curry, bolognaise, roasts etc etc but its nice to go out for lunch or dinner somewhere . So , on those occasions I expect quality over quantity but good tasty food is a must , especially when the charges are higher than the norm for local food.

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Ouch!

Although the woodworking reference escapes me, :ermm: Sunny?:ph34r: said that your culinary skills are "less limited" which is sort of a double negative which means it is more than your woodworking skills. Since your forte is metal working, maybe it was a compliment. Or maybe he just likes negative words.:jap:

Edited by scorpio1945

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Ouch!

Although the woodworking reference escapes me, :ermm: Sunny?:ph34r: said that your culinary skills are "less limited" which is sort of a double negative which means it is more than your woodworking skills. Since your forte is metal working, maybe it was a compliment. Or maybe he just likes negative words.:jap:

Truly, the way he wrote it says that exactly, but he doesn't know that. I noticed it when I read it last night but decided to let it go. I kind of enjoyed him bragging about my culinary skills.

The woodworking thing refers to the fact that I noticed the shoddy tables.

I am sure they have some five star foods there. He just didn't order any of it, apparently.

The good news is, the thread is sure to be short-lived. He is quickly running through all of the local Farang places to eat and if he is true to his word ( I won't eat there again), he will soon be out of places to write about.

In the meantime, I am seeking treatment for this mortal wound. Dunno how long I have. But I'm sure to get in one more pizza meal before I go and probably several cheeseburgers as well.

McG, I won't be needing the silicone tubing or compresses. No IV's can save me and I'm leaking too much for the compresses to have success. However, a large tube of silicone caulking may indeed repair this stab wound. Thanks for thinking of my survival.

Edited by kandahar

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