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How many Saudi's were involved with the takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979?

Yep, I was in Saudi on 9/11/01 and I saw no celebrations or dancing in the streets that day or the next several. The only dancing in the streets I witnessed was on CNN and it was the Palestinians doing the dancing.

Where did you see these festive events?

Ah the overthrow of the Shah regime, you know the facts of that sorry incident as well as I.

I worked alongside Americans who still held resentment, not for the chain of events, but for the fact that on a personal level they lost out on lucrative contracts.

I didnt witness anything on CNN I witnessed with my own eyes the celebrating taking place on the streets of KSA.

You also know of the paranoia surrounding the Saudis and Shia Islam, as can be seen by the treatment of the Shia minority in KSA, the Saudi support for Iraq in its war with Iran and the Saudi wish not to have Saddam removed after the first Gulf War as a way of keeping the Shia majority in Iraq in check.

Two seperate but not entirely unrelated incidents, the Iranians wanted rid of an (in their eyes) American puppet.

One of Bin Ladens aims is also the overthrow of the monarchy in KSA.

I had a first hand glimpse of the overthrow of the Shah by our then American president, Jimmy Carter. I am fully aware of his actions in that matter and do not regard it as a shining moment in our history.

I am also aware of the fact many of the Iranian citizens did not want to have a Theocracy run by the Imams, whether they be Shiite or Sunni. Most of my Iranian friends and co-workers were fortunate enough to be able to leave after Khomeini and his Republican Guard took control. Oh, by the way, the Iranian Republican Guard at the time included a young officer named Ahmadinejad who was sent to Lebanon's Hezbollah to train them in terror tactics. I guess they don't support terrorism today, though.

It is safe to say you didn't work alongside me because I resent the overthrow of the Shah because it set back the nation of Iran by 400 years. I had no trouble finding other employment after the evacuation of Iran but then, I don't run in the same circles you do.

Oh by the way, it isn't paranoia if the other side really IS trying to get you. The non-removal of Saddam after the first Gulf War had everything to do with the UN mandate on the war calling for the expulsion of Iraq from Kuwait and nothing more. The entire coalition would have collapsed had Bush the Elder headed for Baghdad.

I ask again, in which city did you see these celebrations occur?

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What an easy way to avoid facts that point out that you were completely wrong. :D

i am not completely wrong UG and you know it

however, my opinion, my justification for it or even providing some proof for it will not change the mindset of you or Chuckd

i have more important things to do than be an internet warrior fighting a lost cause.

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How many Saudi's were involved with the takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979?

Yep, I was in Saudi on 9/11/01 and I saw no celebrations or dancing in the streets that day or the next several. The only dancing in the streets I witnessed was on CNN and it was the Palestinians doing the dancing.

Where did you see these festive events?

Ah the overthrow of the Shah regime, you know the facts of that sorry incident as well as I.

I worked alongside Americans who still held resentment, not for the chain of events, but for the fact that on a personal level they lost out on lucrative contracts.

I didnt witness anything on CNN I witnessed with my own eyes the celebrating taking place on the streets of KSA.

You also know of the paranoia surrounding the Saudis and Shia Islam, as can be seen by the treatment of the Shia minority in KSA, the Saudi support for Iraq in its war with Iran and the Saudi wish not to have Saddam removed after the first Gulf War as a way of keeping the Shia majority in Iraq in check.

Two seperate but not entirely unrelated incidents, the Iranians wanted rid of an (in their eyes) American puppet.

One of Bin Ladens aims is also the overthrow of the monarchy in KSA.

I had a first hand glimpse of the overthrow of the Shah by our then American president, Jimmy Carter. I am fully aware of his actions in that matter and do not regard it as a shining moment in our history.

I am also aware of the fact many of the Iranian citizens did not want to have a Theocracy run by the Imams, whether they be Shiite or Sunni. Most of my Iranian friends and co-workers were fortunate enough to be able to leave after Khomeini and his Republican Guard took control. Oh, by the way, the Iranian Republican Guard at the time included a young officer named Ahmadinejad who was sent to Lebanon's Hezbollah to train them in terror tactics. I guess they don't support terrorism today, though.

It is safe to say you didn't work alongside me because I resent the overthrow of the Shah because it set back the nation of Iran by 400 years. I had no trouble finding other employment after the evacuation of Iran but then, I don't run in the same circles you do.

Oh by the way, it isn't paranoia if the other side really IS trying to get you. The non-removal of Saddam after the first Gulf War had everything to do with the UN mandate on the war calling for the expulsion of Iraq from Kuwait and nothing more. The entire coalition would have collapsed had Bush the Elder headed for Baghdad.

I ask again, in which city did you see these celebrations occur?

The name of the town is Khamis Mushayt.

As I recall the Americans were on lockdown and didn't report for work the following day.

I can understand these events not being shown on CNN, there were also a number of isolated incidents (I recall that was the terminolgy used at the time) that also went unreported (covered up some might say), such as a shoot out at a western compound (the bullet holes were plugged and walls repainted), westerners having guns pulled on them, westerners having their cars stoned, westerners receiving death threats while at work.

As you say we obviously operated in different circles, otherwise you would have been aware of these events.

How quickly time flies and the memory fades, how forgetful of me, like most things in the sandpit, it must have been those Yemenis, Egyptians or Filipinas who were celebrating, they usually get blamed for everything, because as we all know a Saudi would have never done such a thing.

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What an easy way to avoid facts that point out that you were completely wrong. :D

i am not completely wrong UG and you know it

How could I have ever doubted your profound theories? :rolleyes:

US agencies who are war mongering on behalf of the jews

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What an easy way to avoid facts that point out that you were completely wrong. :D

i am not completely wrong UG and you know it

How could I have ever doubted your profound theories? :rolleyes:

US agencies who are war mongering on behalf of the jews

not just me UG

simply Google that statement ''US agencies who are war mongering on behalf of the jews''

only 5600 + results

is everyone but you ''completely wrong''

in your own mind maybe but in the real world..........

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Why don't you Google "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and see how many loony replies you get? There are a lot of hate-mongers out there.

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"When Arabs love their children more than they hate Jews, there will be peace".

- Golda Meir.

Edited by Ulysses G.

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Why don't you Google "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and see how many loony replies you get? There are a lot of hate-mongers out there.

76934548_98f9bf9ebd.jpg

"When Arabs love their children more than they hate Jews, there will be peace".

- Golda Meir.

There was this Roman general who said, Let them hate, as long as they fear. Golda Meir is just as likely to say some stupid provocative thing as any other politician.And isn't there an implied threat of violence to innocent Arab children? Even to Israel children?

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as financiers of most of the Islamic terrorism that goes on, the Saudis would know in advance of any threats wouldn't they?

Seconded.

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Why don't you Google "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and see how many loony replies you get? There are a lot of hate-mongers out there.

"When Arabs love their children more than they hate Jews, there will be peace".

- Golda Meir.

i can see defending the Jews is something close to your heart UG but not mine

truthfully one more sympathiser more or less won't make a bit of difference and its not important enough in my world to be even bothered with it

its an omelete that's been over-egged in my opinion ........

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Why don't you Google "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and see how many loony replies you get? There are a lot of hate-mongers out there.

76934548_98f9bf9ebd.jpg

"When Arabs love their children more than they hate Jews, there will be peace".

- Golda Meir.

And isn't there an implied threat of violence to innocent Arab children? Even to Israel children?

. To (mis)interpret her statement as you did, took a lot of creative thinking. :blink:

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i can see defending the Jews is something close to your heart UG but not mine

You don't say?

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Edited by Ulysses G.

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i can see defending the Jews is something close to your heart UG but not mine

You don't say?

theobvious.jpg

like i said one more or less won't be missed

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Or 6 million... :whistling:

i was referring to jewish sympathisers not jewish dead but i knew it was only a matter of time before you broached the subject...........

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