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Legal cigarette buying age to be raised to 20: Jurin

By The Nation

The Public Health Ministry plans to raise the legal age for buying cigarettes from 18 years old to 20 years old.

The decision was reached during the meeting of the National Cigarette Control Committee Wednesday. The meeting was chaired by Public Health Minister Jurin Laksanavisit.

The move was seen as the toughest measure so far to discourage smoking among youths.

The meeting Wednesday also came up with several tough measures to control smoking.

Among other things, cigarette vending machines and online vending will be banned, Jurin said.

Vendors will not be allowed to divide up the cigarette pack and sell by counting the cigarettes. Manufacturers will not be allowed to reduce the prices for marketing campaigns, Jurin said.

Jurin added that his ministry would also amend its directive to require manufacturers to change cigarette papers. The new paper type will make the cigarette automatically put out if the smokers do not smoke the cigarette for a period of time.

Jurin said Thailand will be the first country that requires cigarette to use the new safety paper. This kind of paper will prevent the problem of second hand smoking and fires caused by cigarettes left burning.

The Public Health will also amend its directive to prohibit manufacturers from mixing any substance into their cigarettes, Jurin said.

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-- The Nation 2011-01-05

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The new paper type will make the cigarette automatically put out if the smokers do not smoke the cigarette for a period of time.

So once you've lit it, you've got to keep sucking on it.

Good move! Come on, kids, keep sucking!

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The new paper type will make the cigarette automatically put out if the smokers do not smoke the cigarette for a period of time.

So once you've lit it, you've got to keep sucking on it.

Good move! Come on, kids, keep sucking!

Actually, I thought that was a standard thing in western (at least Australian) cigarettes - partly to reduce the number of house fires caused by people falling asleep while smoking in bed.

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If the Govt is serious about curbing smoking - just hit up the tobacco companies and let the retail price hit 500 baht a packet like in other countries. That will slow demand amongst low end kids, and the generated revenues can be put towards medical funds, as that is where it will be needed when the poor bastards' lungs collapse and the tax payer will have to foot the bill. That way they get to invest in their own future!

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first i heard you have to be 18 to buy !

this wont deter mom,and pop stores sellling, nor 7-11 ( i have seen kids as young as 10 buy beer and smokes in 7-11, maybe not for themselves, but the staff still serve them )

but its another thing in thialand, deterrent, i mean what is the punishment for a store keeper selling to under age kids?

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The whole paper issue is just a way to prevent companies coming into the Thai market. All the big boys currently put the same cigarettes into a Thai labelled pack and add the customs sticker. Now, they will have to go off and buy special papers too. Messing around with cigarette makers is a pain in the ass and ruins productivity.

The big guys PM/JT/BAT will pay to get the papers, but anyone else (some of the smaller Philippino manufacturers)bothering to try to import cigarettes will not bother. Thus the TTM gets to push the smaller competitors out of the Thai market, whilst causing quite a lot of inconvenience to the large multi-national competitors who like their cigarette machines set up exactly the same for all markets, but just change the packs and customs stamps.

On a different note, has a retailer EVER been prosecuted for selling cigarettes to underage smokers in this country? Complete window dressing so that a few doctors can get awards and more funds from the WHO, whilst the TTM (government) continue to reap the dodgy benefits of owning a cigarette company.

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The new paper type will make the cigarette automatically put out if the smokers do not smoke the cigarette for a period of time.

So once you've lit it, you've got to keep sucking on it.

Good move! Come on, kids, keep sucking!

Actually, I thought that was a standard thing in western (at least Australian) cigarettes - partly to reduce the number of house fires caused by people falling asleep while smoking in bed.

It is the standard in many western cigarettes -- they also discovered that the chemical that they formerly added to the paper (Potassium nitrate to keep it burning ) was a suspected carcinogen.

The paper used in most western cigarettes has extra bands of paper to actually snuff out the unattended cigarette. These papers went into widespread use in 2007.

"Jurin said Thailand will be the first country that requires cigarette to use the new safety paper " - he means the first country in the world as known in Thailand (ASEA) .

Incidentally, the cigarette manufacturers in Thailand also add the same chemical to the tobacco to keep it burning. It has been reduced or removed from cigarettes in most western countries some time ago -- will it also be removed from Thai tobacco ?

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The new paper type will make the cigarette automatically put out if the smokers do not smoke the cigarette for a period of time.

So once you've lit it, you've got to keep sucking on it.

Good move! Come on, kids, keep sucking!

Actually, I thought that was a standard thing in western (at least Australian) cigarettes - partly to reduce the number of house fires caused by people falling asleep while smoking in bed.

It is the standard in many western cigarettes -- they also discovered that the chemical that they formerly added to the paper (Potassium nitrate to keep it burning ) was a suspected carcinogen.

The paper used in most western cigarettes has extra bands of paper to actually snuff out the unattended cigarette. These papers went into widespread use in 2007.

"Jurin said Thailand will be the first country that requires cigarette to use the new safety paper " - he means the first country in the world as known in Thailand (ASEA) .

Incidentally, the cigarette manufacturers in Thailand also add the same chemical to the tobacco to keep it burning. It has been reduced or removed from cigarettes in most western countries some time ago -- will it also be removed from Thai tobacco ?

Dont worry about the additives. I wonder when they will start to attempt to implement pesticide limits on thai tobacco that approach anything like international standards.

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first i heard you have to be 18 to buy !

this wont deter mom,and pop stores sellling, nor 7-11 ( i have seen kids as young as 10 buy beer and smokes in 7-11, maybe not for themselves, but the staff still serve them )

but its another thing in thialand, deterrent, i mean what is the punishment for a store keeper selling to under age kids?

So the elder brother goes and buys, and hands them over to the younger one-he takes them to school, and when they leave they light up--and suck away. under 20 to buy NO GO, smoking 12 or so up O.K................the small shop in thai villages will never give up selling single cigs--thats where they make the money--not on a pack--I know -we sell them- the same as lao kow, 90 bht a L bottle--2 caps full 15 bht. No law to check !!!!!!!!!!!! special buddist days-no alcohol sales--local town market wholesaler-sells on the day. we have a policemans shop, he does all this. white whisky--bang the price up-its a killer before you drive. cigs tripple the price, stop the local kids smoking

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Wow, another brainstorm from those who can't be touched or spoken of.

Won't work, can't enforce it. 7/11 might ban selling of cigs to those under 20, but local shops and on the street you can buy anything you want.

it will never happen...same as training people to drive...stopping people from drinking...stop burning in the north...etc..etc...but it's ok..i luv this country...

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ANTI-SMOKING LAWS

Tobacco industry and smokers face new measures

By Pongphon Sarnsamak

The Nation

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People under the age of 20 will be prohibited from purchasing cigarettes, while Tobacco manufacturers will only be allowed to import and sell fire-safe cigarettes once the Public Health Ministry amends the law and issues a ministerial regulation to control tobacco consumption.

Public Health Minister Jurin Laksanawisit said yesterday the ministry would amend the 1992 Tobacco Products Control Act and prohibit the sale of tobacco products to people under 20 and issue a regulation that manufacturers can only sell fire-safe cigarettes that cut down fire risks and exposure to second-hand smoke.

The announcement was made yesterday by Jurin after he chaired a meeting with the National Tobacco Control Committee. He said the panel had come up with resolutions to amend the 1992 Act as well as ministerial regulations to control tobacco consumption and marketing.

Under the 1992 Tobacco Products Control Act, the ministry will revise the definition of tobacco products to cover all products that contain nicotine such as drinking water, gel, chewing gum and electronic cigarettes. Previously, the definition under this act had only covered tobacco products.

The ministry will also revise the definition of "sell" in the law to cover words such as selling, giving, exchanging or distributing products containing nicotine for commercial benefit.

The ministry will revise the minimum legal age for purchasing cigarettes or tobacco products from 18 to 20 years old. Selling cigarettes to those under 20 via vending machines, the Internet or giving them as gifts is also prohibited. Selling tobacco products at a discount will also be prohibited. Under the revised law, cigarette brands will be banned from all kinds of advertising, except for live broadcasts from abroad.

He said the revisions would be submitted to the Cabinet and House of Representatives for consideration and approval first.

Jurin added that the ministry would also issue a ministerial regulation to allow only fire-safe cigarettes to be sold in the country. This move, which comes after the ministry learned that conventional cigarettes increase the risk of igniting fires when left unattended, will take a year to come into force. In addition, fire-safe cigarettes can reduce exposure to second-hand smoke. Fire-safe cigarettes are designed to extinguish more quickly than standard cigarettes, if left unattended.

These cigarettes are produced by adding two bands or "speed bumps" to the cigarette paper in order to slow down the burn rate, and since cigarettes don't burn for too long when left unattended, they can be prevented from igniting nearby materials or tinder.

A fire-safe cigarette goes out in less than two minutes, while the traditional cigarette burns all the way to the filter for 10 minutes.

Thailand will be the first Asian country to allow only fire-safe cigarettes to be sold in the nation. The practice was first enforced in the US, followed by Canada, Australia and Finland. The European Union is also considering enforcing the law.

"The ministerial regulation should be enforced within a year in Thailand," Jurin said.

Under the regulation, the ministry will also ban tobacco manufacturers from adding flavours or vitamins to cigarettes.

At present, up to 20 per cent of the Thai population smokes, most of them male. About 1 million of the smokers are between 15 and 24 years of age. The ministry expects these measures to reduce the number of smokers to 10 per cent of the population.

The tobacco industry in Thailand is estimated to be worth between Bt60 billion and Bt70 billion a year, with the State Tobacco Monopoly having a market share of 75 per cent.

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-- The Nation 2011-01-06

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This legislation is right up there with the banning of the sale of alcohol between the hours of 1400 to 1700. I wonder about their sanity.

"Minister, the poor are in a state of revolt. They complain that they cannot afford to buy tobacco."

"Let them smoke pot."

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The new paper type will make the cigarette automatically put out if the smokers do not smoke the cigarette for a period of time.

So once you've lit it, you've got to keep sucking on it.

Good move! Come on, kids, keep sucking!

Actually, I thought that was a standard thing in western (at least Australian) cigarettes - partly to reduce the number of house fires caused by people falling asleep while smoking in bed.

No the paper is usually impregnated with a burning agent to make it burn faster so you get through more smokes.

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If the Govt is serious about curbing smoking - just hit up the tobacco companies and let the retail price hit 500 baht a packet like in other countries. That will slow demand amongst low end kids, and the generated revenues can be put towards medical funds, as that is where it will be needed when the poor bastards' lungs collapse and the tax payer will have to foot the bill. That way they get to invest in their own future!

The same old misconception about smokers being a drag on the medical system rears its sanctimonious head... I've got news for ya pal. It's the people who live long and healthy lives who end up taking more money out of the medical system - hip replacements, ongoing care and medication. Everyone ghets sick eventually regardless of what sort of life they lead - and yes, we all die too. It is like saying that if coffins were subsidised by taxpayers, that smokers are costing us a fortune in coffins. Of course, those who die "honestly" deserve a free coffin. It is just the usual contempt for smokers.

When you get lung cancer, your life is snuffed out in a very short time. Often they don't even bother with expensive chemo, because by the time they find it, it's too far gone.

You ought to be thanking smokers for leaving more money behind in the system for you.

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If you read the whole story, these self back patters claim that the measures will reduce the percentage of smokers in Thailand from 20% to 10%... Not sure whose ringpiece they extracted that figure from, but it explains why it's a nice round number.

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"The tobacco industry in Thailand is estimated to be worth between Bt60 billion and Bt70 billion a year, with the State Tobacco Monopoly having a market share of 75 per cent."

Surely a conflict of interest here since the TTM is controlled by the ministry of finance and has a remit to increase revenues???

They may have to cut back on all the good work they are doing with children and in schools!

"Education:

Scholarships, educational buildings, books and educational equipment are provided, along with support for educational promotion activities for schools and institutions. Academic community projects and learning in a virtual world on the website: WWW.SKOOLBUZ.com (2009-2011 Fiscal Years).

Sports

The Government has a policy for state enterprises to support sports activities under the 1 Sport 1 State Enterprise Project. Consequently, TTM supports the Swimming Association of Thailand within our support for 3 years (2009-2011 Fiscal Years) with a budget of 15 million baht per year."

http://www.thaitobacco.or.th/eng/customize/6-0-2037.html

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The law actually seems like a rather good idea. I would think banning sales to 18yos who intermingle with underage students in school and social areas could stand a chance of reducing consumption by school-aged children. Banning the sales of singles should help address smoking amongst the poor which is a pretty large group here. Like everything else, how effective the measures will be comes down to enforcement and the record on that is rather poor but the laws themselves are a positive move. It couldn't possibly be 100% effective, not in any country, but the new laws have a chance to make a significant impact.

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rolleyes.gif Amazing they let 9/10 yr olds ride motor bikes with no skidlids with 3or4 as passengers and let 16/17 year olds drive motors cars but not be allowed to buy smokes untill they are 20.

Like they say.

THAILAND TRULY AMAZING

I think you missed the difference between what the law is and what ppl actually do here.

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rolleyes.gif Amazing they let 9/10 yr olds ride motor bikes with no skidlids with 3or4 as passengers and let 16/17 year olds drive motors cars but not be allowed to buy smokes untill they are 20.

Like they say.

THAILAND TRULY AMAZING

You've got it wrong.

They have laws saying you can't ride a motorbike until you are 15, you can't drive a car until you are 18 and can't buy smokes until you are 18.

For some reason, because the policing of the laws are non-existent, they have decided to raise the age of buying smokes to 20.

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Does water have nicotine in??

Does water have nicotine in it!

Take a look into storm drains near markets, or places where you can't smoke

inside, take a look on the streets, roads, beaches, parks, where do you think

these toxic cigarette ends (butts) go, after being left behind by uncaring or

unknowing smokers, that don't want to keep the smelling poison with them,

until they can depose of them in a proper manner, (some do) most don't.

STORM DRAINS go to our waterways, most of those butts that you see that take

up to 12 years to decompose, if they are not ingested bye unknowing children,

wildlife or leach into our waterways and soil and as we "all" know contaminate

the air we breath.

A hard habit to quit, most die before they can, if they could only keep their

butts to themselves, the world would be a much cleaner, safer place for

the voiceless, Children, Wildlife, Waterways and our Plant Life.

One of the problems is, that every movie out there, shows actors flicking

Their cigarettes wherever, leaving to many smokers to think that it is the

thing to do.

Smokers Please Think Before You Flick, Every Litter Bit Hurts.

Thank You.

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will this actually stop teens buying tabs? i don't think so!

ah let's be controversial ... BAN ALL CIGGYS.. THEY STINK AND I DON'T SEE WHY I SHOULD HAVE TO INHALE YOUR FILTH sick.gif

Let's be even more controversial. Ban the internal combustion engine. Let BKK breathe fresh air.

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The new paper type will make the cigarette automatically put out if the smokers do not smoke the cigarette for a period of time.

So once you've lit it, you've got to keep sucking on it.

Good move! Come on, kids, keep sucking!

Actually, I thought that was a standard thing in western (at least Australian) cigarettes - partly to reduce the number of house fires caused by people falling asleep while smoking in bed.

Salt Peter is added to manufactured cigarette's paper, it prevents them from going out. Hand rolling cigarette papers like Rizla don't have salt peter, and they do keep going out.

Maybe Thailand is to reduce or remove the Salt Peter .......

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