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...In Europe going topless is generally acceptable and has been since the sixtiesIn the anally retentive US it isn't.

Watch the generalities, please... there are scores of openly, completely clothing optional beaches & rivers in California - less so in other states. In the Bible-thumping fly-over states, it's severely uptight, but the women there... well, lets just say we prefer them covered anyway laugh.gif

Actually I would agree - but as your post clearly shows it isn't a "generalisation" - I assume that's what you mean.....it's a pretty good summation of US society in total.As you point out they actually have to have places set aside and they tend only to be in California.

It's not just with nudity, but with language, media, drugs even underwear! - and every aspect of US life is dominated by the heritage of religious anal relation.

After more than 200 years the US still hasn't come to terms with SEX - even the mammary gland sends them into paroxysms of either horror or Oedipal dribbling.May I draw your attention to Terry Thomas' short soliloquy on the brassier in "It's a MAD>MAD>MAD> MAD world"... or even the "big M". McDonald"s logo which is clearly a subliminal reference to a pair of breasts.....not to mention the nation's obsession with drinking milk. Humans are the only species to continue drinking milk after weening (with the exception of a few clever hedgehogs).

.........and what do you see on top of capitol hill????

there you have it... case elegantly sealed with an incoherent rant. I think you're late for your next beer.

oh, just an FYI or two:

No, I meant "generalities" - as in, you were speaking in generalities.

generality |ˌjenəˈralitē|noun ( pl. -ties)1 a statement or principle having general rather than specific validity or force :he confined his remarks to generalities.the quality or state of being general : policy should be formulated at an appropriate level of generality.

Oh, and the US Capitol building was closely patterned after Wren's St Paul's Cathedral in LONDON.

Sadly you had to get a dictionary to find out what you had written? Kind of sums you up?

Secondly, if you know your history you will know that St Paul's is actually a fake dome - they didn't know how to make a real one - which would account for the US's obsession with constructing false tits I suppose.

BTW - I"m guessing you think I"m British? - you are good at jumping to conclusions.

The concept of "dome" comes from Italy/Latin cathedral - again another country with an obsession with tits - NB the current PM.

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interesting...not uncommon to see older women wearing only sarong and topless in some small towns i have visited, no one seemed to notice ...maybe it is only young supple breasts that offend....:unsure:

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Ahh yes........the old "respect the local culture" argument.

In that case, I suppose we must respect:-

Female circumcision in the Sahel countries because it's the culture.

The caste system in India because it's the culture.

Bull-fighting in Spain because it's the culture.

Cock-fighting to the death in the Philippines because it's the culture.

The oppression of women in Arab countries because it's the culture.

Frankly, any culture that makes "face" more important than "truth", I regard as inferior to my own.

I would agree with everything you say apart from your last comment - I don't think I'd say "inferior" - looking at the world in a hierarchical manner is VERY misleading.

But calling for change anywhere in the world if you believe something is wrong surely is your duty?

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The majority of comments above show about the same amount of ignorance, when it comes to Thai mores, as the "boobies.

This is NOT your country or a European country. Before you came here you should have done your homework and read up on what is expected of visitors. And using the small percentage of Thais who are in the sex trade is not good form when arguing a point.

As an expat of 6+ years, I find myself ashamed of the way farangs dress, both on the beach and on the streets. Someone should also say something to the hairy men who insist on wearing underwear shirts in public, such as at the mall and in theatres.

All of us should remember our manners while in this great (with exceptions) country.

Mitch, I used to think like you that it was only a small percentage of Thais working in the sex trade, but I now realise that it is a very large percentage, including the good old cops... Sex busines is huge in Thailand and growing... even mom and dad at home accepting the moneys are involved, the banks sending and taking the moneys ...are involved... and the promoters of Thai holidays use the sex angle to sell their holidays, they too are involved... Sex sells.... Amazing Thailand..

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Since the days of empire, colonialism and other forms of domination are mostly over, isn't it also time that foreigners stop griping because they can't change the places they visit to be just like "home". If where one comes from is so perfect, why go somewhere else to complain about its differences? I am all for topless beaches but if the culture here frowns on it, it shouldn't be cause for derision, sarcasm or disrespect. I am much more offended by shirtless displays of massively jiggling farang men who insist on parading their obesity on foot or on motorbikes, in the faces of others who prefer not to see their grossness.

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As expected most of the complaints are from women who don't like the competition of young nubile breasts.:lol:

What is funniest is you can go to most gogo bars and see the lot, no problems. Perhaps this is the problem, the professionals hate the amateurs offering the same for free.

what a pathetic statement, gogo bars are where adults go to see this sort of thing, beaches are public places where children can go, this is a Muslim area where such things are frowned upon and decent Thai parents struggle to bring up children without the bad influence of us westerners. This is Thailand, it is illegal! end of story!

Thing is though, it's not the end of the story because, as previously stated here, you don't see very many signs on beaches, and you don't see many police disturbing tourists' full body sunbathing sessions b/c of a pair of tits when tourism represents a substantial percentage of Thailand's GDP, not to mention profits off the books. If you want to get angry at somebody get angry at the law enforcers who don't enforce the law. You can't really blame people for coming to a country where seemingly anything goes and then testing that theory out. Often times they're right, except for the few who end up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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very simple, when in Rome do as the Romans do. Not many tourists strip on St Peters Square. There used to be something like common courtesy and respect for other cultures. Thailand has its red light corners, so keep it there. Most saggy exposed tit should not ever see the sunlight ever anyay, and hairy octagenarian men should not run along the street in Phuket in speedos at any time. So say middle aged gay man who lives quiet happely with his cloth on :jap:

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I could not agree more - live by the etiquiette rulles of the country you visit! You should be honoured to be guest down here - otherwise - stay home! We in sweden hate those who immigrates and bring the muslim behavior with them. Think of that you all (sorry you all good muslim people for this example - I know a lot of you are really good people) who is rude towards the siam people!!!.

..... and the lady went back to her stall to sell the porn dvd's i bet.

Some things you just couldnt make up in Thailand, how is it so acceptable to sell SEX and SEX DVD's but showing a bit of flesh on the beach or surrounding area is frowned upon. Is it one rule for Farangs and obne rule for locals here ?

What a broad-sweeping generality. If you broadened your horizons beyond sex you'd realize that only a small percentage of Thais are involved in sex-related commerce and most are indeed offended by public nudity. It is their country and culture you know.

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Having only lived in Thailand for two years what surprises me most are the contradictions relating to the article and the apparent ignorance of many of the posts. Older married Thai women certainly "go topless" in front of children and males in many of the villages. Why is a beach different?

Secondly whilst travelling on a long distance bus across Thailand I witnessed the Thai censor's amazing double standards. The Thai movie showing on the bus, repeatedly showed the male penis fully exposed (and even cut off!) but had the hazy cover-up applied to female breasts and genitalia. My Thai wife indicated this was normal for movies in Thailand and I have since witnessed the same on Thai TV.

Come on folks, just what are the "cultural standards" we're supposed to respect if we wish to live in Thailand ???

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I agree with the comments made about inappropriate dress in public places such as the street and shopping malls. However personally I see nothing wrong with beach nudity provided beaches are set aside for such purposes. It's about time the authorities and the general Thai population at large stopped applying double standards to themselves as well as visitors to this country and move it into the modern era.

Zazaza

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while most of the "older" members here agree with accepting the rules in Thailand, many of the new member doesnt. Shows me what I see day by day here since many years on the streets and on the beaches in Phuket. Thailand has changed a lot during the past 25 years and to be honest not in a good way when it comes to the "NEW" farang community.

It was much better here 15 years ago, not at least because there was foreigners here reading something about the country they are travelling too and just behave to the rules, Thailand is NOT

our country, if you dont like it here the way it is feel free to go, I honestly appreciate less cars on the streets and less idiots around.

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Very funny all these puritan opinions. There is nothing wrong with nudism, every idea about it comes from your own mind. That is mostly influenced by religious indoctrinations. By the way, how can you ask any respect from tourists about this when the hookers are around the corner or even closer? This is a hypocritical world we live in, except that and your life will be much more pleasant.

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What exactly are they talking about? Double standards it is ok for thais but not western women. :whistling:

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Many times here in Kamala i have approched topless females and told them that this is a Moslem communnity and to please cover up as they are offending their host.

I'd say 95% of them should not have gone topless in the privacy of their own homes much less in Public. :bah:

Some would cover up and apologize and say they didn't know, some would say its not my country, others would tell me that no thai had told them that so they assumed it was ok,

There should be signs on every beach that it is NOT acceptable behavior in Thailand. Note not just the words but a pair of sagging breasts with a big red X thru them

This is a predominately Buddhist country.

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I honestly just don't see the problem, but maybe it s just me being too progressive?

Edited by jbrewer

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