transam Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 No...it's too many Pakis I hear Brits in Thailand complain about all the time, too many Muslims coming in from the Germans and French, and too many Hispanics from the Americans. Can you expand on your post a bit, just for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaBuddha Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Tourists don't need 4 Tourist visas. Good to see them cracking down on people illegally abusing the system. Should really make it a limit of 2, not 3. Or even a limit of one in neighbouring countries. Are you saying that if you have a penchant for a particular country that 3 times is the number of times you should be allowed to visit it, in your lifetime? Er, no. *whisper* you don't need a tourist visa to visit Thailand. But noone was talking about VOA. And neither was he. VOA is not the same as a visa exempt stamp. It's unfortunate that so many people on Thaivisa that don't understand the visa/entry system of Thailand have to post about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 What's there to expand on? The same people who gripe about how hard it us for them to stay as foreigners in Thailand are the same group who gripe about foreigners in their neighborhoods back home. I guess it's different when you're white...who in their right minds wouldn't roll out the welcome mat for a white guy to put down roots after all? I also don't hear them complain too much when the Africans in Soi Nana -- who largely are just minding their own business, too -- get picked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preman Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Well, - let's restrict tourist revenue. Who the hell in the Thai Government is responsible for this? Do that to tourists - or even longer stayers, - then what are the consequences for Thailand? ...Not so good. 14% of GDP going down the drain, .... slowly. While the Thai Government spend big Baht doing absolutely stupid PR campaigns to bring more foreigners here. Then what? Cannot stay longer? Insanity, - considering the amount of cash involved Why make it so difficult for foreigners just to be here and contribute to the Thai economy? .... Yeah... because of a few bad stupid eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moskito Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 The 2 month 60 day Visa is still free, so they dont want give it away to often I guess. She could have applied for a 90 day Visa wich cost something but better as a 2 week stamp on arrival by land.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCNX Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 ... under 50, have money, do not need to work (especially in Thailand), are not married nor have a child with a Thai ... Any policy that would prevent (my) unlimited stay in Thailand is just plain retarded Thai style decision making without thinking ... Maybe the policy has been thought out and decided upon quite deliberately. If you have so much money that you never need to work again under 50, you can get an visa based on an investment of 10 million baht. You can also form a Thai company to do some modest business and employ yourself. I don't think the restrictions apply to genuine tourists obtaining tourist visas from their home countries. Am in same situation, under 50 don't really have to work, especially in Thailand. I will not invest 10m THB here, are you nuts! better to invest that in the "west" and get a better ROI/ safer investment. Oh well, I don't care anymore since I am leaving soon after 2 1/2 years. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumFarang Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Tourist visas are for tourists. If you are obviously not a tourist, you don't qualify. Same as anywhere else. What's so hard to understand? There is no point arguing with people like this case above. They are simply law book moralists. If the law said, arrest all left-handed people and bring them to the police, they would happily obey, they would form citizen police group even, without thinking twice. Because it is the LAW and the LAW is everything. It is the way they feel superior to anybody else, especially to those criticizing or having troubles fulfilling whatever stupid things the LAW requires. And, of course, saying visas are only for tourists is just plain wrong. Visas are issued for a range of visitations, even if a lot of them are a forgery or whatever. Take for instance a student visa. Throughout my school years I never thought of a foreign exchange student as a tourist, they're students not visitors to landmarks and hotels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 No one wants to restrict Genuine tourist arrivals. All that's wanted is for people who are clearly NOT tourists to get visas that they are actually qualified for. So much bitching and moaning over so simple and reasonable a concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochafan Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Tourist visas are for tourists. If you are obviously not a tourist, you don't qualify. Same as anywhere else. What's so hard to understand? There is no point arguing with people like this case above. They are simply law book moralists. If the law said, arrest all left-handed people and bring them to the police, they would happily obey, they would form citizen police group even, without thinking twice. Because it is the LAW and the LAW is everything. It is the way they feel superior to anybody else, especially to those criticizing or having troubles fulfilling whatever stupid things the LAW requires. ...I totally agree with you! This guy wants to be judge and jury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 The conundrum of how a wealthy sub 50 year old can legally live in Thailand whilst a 50 year old near pauper can get a retirement visa has never been thought through. Actually they have, it's called a Non-immigrant "O" Visa, and a one year "Extension of Stay" based on investment, or and "ED" Visa if they don't have the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 second: you do understand that there are people like myself who are under 50, have money, do not need to work (especially in thailand), are not married nor have a child with a thai? what visa would you suggest to me? as far as i know the only options for me to stay in thailand with legal visas are the on year non-immigrant visas from hull or back-to-back tourist visas. i guess i could study thai too but i am too lazy How about doing something useful with your time and money instead of coming to Thailand as a "tourist" every year? :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumFarang Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Well, - let's restrict tourist revenue. Who the hell in the Thai Government is responsible for this? Do that to tourists - or even longer stayers, - then what are the consequences for Thailand? ...Not so good. 14% of GDP going down the drain, .... slowly. While the Thai Government spend big Baht doing absolutely stupid PR campaigns to bring more foreigners here. Then what? Cannot stay longer? Insanity, - considering the amount of cash involved Why make it so difficult for foreigners just to be here and contribute to the Thai economy? .... Yeah... because of a few bad stupid eggs. I'm not a person who would have a clever idea about something like this, but as Thailand spends more and more on advertising to attract tourists, it'd be cool if they could work in some neat assistance plan to make obtaining visas painless from one's home country, possible through agents or something. I don't know, it could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why not just let anyone come in and stay as long as they want, without a passport even. Throw open the doors to all the farangs, Lao, Burmese, Indians, Africans and Arabs. Seems like that's what more than a few of you want. For farangs, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCanfield Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I live in Laos. In early December I went to the Thai consulate in Vientiane to get a (free) tourist visa to Thailand so that I could stay for a month. They saw many non-immigrant visas in my passport (I have Thai children) so they refused to give me one. So I went for only 15 days. I'm sure that any of us could come up with a more rational visa policy. I would suggest "You can stay as long as you like, but you have to report to the local police every 30 days." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 For anyone? Oh yeah, that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 What's there to expand on? The same people who gripe about how hard it us for them to stay as foreigners in Thailand are the same group who gripe about foreigners in their neighborhoods back home. I guess it's different when you're white...who in their right minds wouldn't roll out the welcome mat for a white guy to put down roots after all? I also don't hear them complain too much when the Africans in Soi Nana -- who largely are just minding their own business, too -- get picked on. A blind forum member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 The long term farangs do not count as tourists. They should be considered 'immigrants'. Thai should allow long term visa for these immigrants, so they do not disrupt the neighboring countries. Same goes for Work Permit holders. If the Labour Department issue a Work Permit, then tie Immigration should immediately, without fuss, delay and having to submit basically the same set of data, issue a visa to cover the period in the work permit. These bullshit border hops and visits to consulates/embassies outside Thailand are a total load of brown smelly stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 May I point to this post: My Thai girlfrind has just got off the phone to the Thai embassy in Vientiane. According to them, there is NO rule in force at that embassy saying 3 strikes and you are out...They said that if you ring them up before making the trip and tell them exactly what the status of your past visas in your passport, they will tell you to either come up or don't bother. The exact details of the double entry restrictions are 3 in a rolling 12 month period. If your last 3 double entries extend beyond 12 months, then you are entitled to another one. When you call, you must get the person's name who you talk to and make sure that they take a record of your name and passport number. This will ensure that you will be given one and your trip is NOT wasted. This is of course only applicable if they said you are clear to come. Full post from today here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Ah, so it's "a few rotten apples" when farangs are concerned, but paint them all with the same brush when they don't happen to be white. Got it, how silly of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I don't care what visa you have or how many - you'll always be a guest (tourist) to the Thai's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Well...duh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preman Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There is no clever reply. Just common sense! As I said, - 14% of GDP, - about to decline sharply (again). My, - point ..... is that internal politics... and attitudes / policies towards people who can ... and do contribute towards the Thai economy, are not what they should be (foreigners / tourism). When the business is gone, - maybe some people wake up. It looks like Thailand is in for another major upheaval. Many countries in this world are experiencing such..... but it is sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 most countries will let you stay 6 months. if you stay longer you will have to pay income tax. A lot of tourists and people like you are trying to avoid paying any tax which is not fair. Tourists don't need 4 Tourist visas. Good to see them cracking down on people illegally abusing the system. Should really make it a limit of 2, not 3. Or even a limit of one in neighbouring countries. I understand you are only posting to provoke people but to answer your idiotic post seriously: first: you do understand that some people have 10 year passports and might come to thailand lets say 1-2 times a year for 1-3 months at a time needing a tourist visa each time? this could result in 10+ tourist visas in the 10 year passport for a genuine tourist second: you do understand that there are people like myself who are under 50, have money, do not need to work (especially in thailand), are not married nor have a child with a thai? what visa would you suggest to me? as far as i know the only options for me to stay in thailand with legal visas are the on year non-immigrant visas from hull or back-to-back tourist visas. i guess i could study thai too but i am too lazy third: sure, there are people who might be working on tourist visas and they should not be allowed to do so but to reject anyone from getting another visa only because they have 3 existing stickers is just plain retarded thai style decision making without thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrobert Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Tourists don't need 4 Tourist visas. Good to see them cracking down on people illegally abusing the system. Should really make it a limit of 2, not 3. Or even a limit of one in neighbouring countries. Not at all accurate, along with all the similar self-righteous comments. Just because you have to work and therefore get a business visa and WP, does not mean others must. I know of a wealthy couple, in their 40's, who spend 6-8 months per year travelling and stay in Thailand two months at a time every 10-12 months, spend a lot of money and have a home that is rented from a Thai, paid for six years in advance. They do not work.They do not need to. They travel by taxi all over the Kingdom, sightsee, eat food and have fun. But according to Vientienne and you, they should not be allowed in 4 times in three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Most countries allow six months? My Thai gf's last Schengen visa was for a very generous 15 days. UK, slightly better at thirty...after having interrogated her like she was a common whore for half an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard4849 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 The wealthy couple should get a Thailand Elite card. It's peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 first: you do understand that some people have 10 year passports and might come to thailand lets say 1-2 times a year for 1-3 months at a time needing a tourist visa each time? this could result in 10+ tourist visas in the 10 year passport for a genuine tourist But over that ten year period they would not be repeatedly entering Thailand by land from a neighboring country. There's no evidence that people arriving by air from outside the region (as one might expect from genuine tourists) are being refused. More generally, the situation has been created by people who abuse the system by repeatedly claiming to be tourists and running across the nearest border over and over again. The easiest way to reduce this problem is to reduce the repeat visitors who arrive from neighboring countries. Some "genuine tourists" may get unfairly caught by this, but the blame should be attributed to the people who abuse the system ( and brag about it on ThaiVisa) not at Thai Immigrations who rightfully feel no obligation to increase staff and equipment just to ensure no one gets his feelings hurt. Basically the same thing applies to those people under 50. There may very well be some people who genuinely have the resources to stay in Thailand, not seek employment and who will spend to boost the economy. Unfortunately filtering out those from the many who are seeking a place to cadge drinks and handouts while getting up to no good is just not worth the time and manpower for Thai Immigrations. Making generalized rules and regulations may seem "retarded" to those who are adversely affected, but if you want to blame anyone, blame the retarded farangs who make the rules and regulations necessary and who continue to seek out loopholes, which results in further tightening of those rules and regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 A border land crossing gets you 15 days, not 30 (for most of the passport holders here, anyway). Hmm an airport count as a border too though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Tourists don't need 4 Tourist visas. Good to see them cracking down on people illegally abusing the system. Should really make it a limit of 2, not 3. Or even a limit of one in neighbouring countries. WHAT?? American passport is good for 10 years, visit thailand & Cambodia or Laos, 2 times a year with visa each time 20 stamps. Edited February 7, 2011 by phuketrichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaBuddha Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Yeah, so what? The guy chose a criminal to shack up with. Same thing could have happened with a condo registered entirely in his name alone. Chose? Yeah I'm sure he knew ahead of time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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