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Stopping Hamas from firing rockets into civilian areas takes precedence over military action for tearing down illegal buildings. :whistling:

Once again you show how narrow minded you are. How is evicting people from their homes and destroying their lives going to stop rockets being fired into Israel? These exact actions are what breeds the reactions of the Palestinian people.

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Stopping Hamas from firing rockets into civilian areas takes precedence over military action for tearing down illegal buildings. :whistling:

Once again you show how narrow minded you are. How is evicting people from their homes and destroying their lives going to stop rockets being fired into Israel? These exact actions are what breeds the reactions of the Palestinian people.

Hamas runs Gaza, not the west bank. What connection? Hmmm, let's check. Has the UN condemned the Hamas rocket attacks on Israel as well? Breeding reactions, huh? Are you joking. Arabs all over the Arab world are exposed to both antisemitic and anti-Israel propaganda from their baby stages. Knocking down houses or not knocking down houses (not saying it's right); seriously, do you think suddenly most Palestinians are going to unlearn their ingrained hate responses to Jews either way? This problem is MUCH more deep.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/28/AR2011022805199.html

The Arab world is saturated by Jew-hatred.

Some of this hatred was planted by Husseini and some of it long existed, but whatever the case, it remains a remarkable, if unremarked, feature of Arab nationalism.

Israel's critics have a case. Yet they make no case when it comes to Arab anti-Semitism. The prominence of Qaradawi cannot be reassuring to Israelis. They know that words can be weapons and hate is a killer. Nonetheless, since the days of Husseini, a true Hitlerian figure, Arab nations have shamefully been granted an exception to the standards expected of the rest of the world, as if they were children. If I were an Israeli, I'd be worried. If I were an Arab, I'd be insulted. If I were a critic only of Israel, I'd be ashamed.

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Stopping Hamas from firing rockets into civilian areas takes precedence over military action for tearing down illegal buildings. :whistling:

Once again you show how narrow minded you are. How is evicting people from their homes and destroying their lives going to stop rockets being fired into Israel? These exact actions are what breeds the reactions of the Palestinian people.

Hamas runs Gaza, not the west bank. What connection? Hmmm, let's check. Has the UN condemned the Hamas rocket attacks on Israel as well? Breeding reactions, huh? Are you joking. Arabs all over the Arab world are exposed to both antisemitic and anti-Israel propaganda from their baby stages. Knocking down houses or not knocking down houses (not saying it's right); seriously, do you think suddenly most Palestinians are going to unlearn their ingrained hate responses to Jews either way? This problem is MUCH more deep.

I wonder why the Arab world hates Israel when they conduct activiies such as these. Gaza and the West Bank. What connection you ask ? If you need me to tell you that then you are an Idiot with a capital I.

Lately it seems it is more than just the Arab world that finds Israel and its policies distasteful. Maybe they need to start coming around to popular world opinion before it is them that gets pushed into the sea.

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My point is that even if the Israelis suddenly got all Kumbaya, the majority of the Palestinian public would STILL want to drive the Jews of Israel into the sea. But the Jews of Israel don't wish to jump into the sea. This isn't one sided mate, you have to see both sides, or you are lost. As long as Israelis feel this, and the way they feel is demonstrably the truth based on polling of Palestinians, there is only so far left the Israeli public is going to go. I certainly hope they turn away from being run by their far right wing, but again they don't exist in a vacuum, they are surrounded and they know it.

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My point is that even if the Israelis suddenly got all Kumbaya, the majority of the Palestinian public would STILL want to drive the Jews of Israel into the sea. But the Jews of Israel don't wish to jump into the sea. This isn't one sided mate, you have to see both sides, or you are lost. As long as Israelis feel this, and the way they feel is demonstrably the truth based on polling of Palestinians, there is only so far left the Israeli public is going to go. I certainly hope they turn away from being run by their far right wing, but again they don't exist in a vacuum, they are surrounded and they know it.

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You are putting the cart before the horse my friend. How can anybody possibley predict the future by stating that if Israel meet with the Palestinians demands then the Arab world would still want to destroy them [rhetorical question]. And if that were the case I would be the first person to speak out and condemn them. I would also fully support ANY action deemed necessary to defend Israel and its citizens.This news thread is about kicking people out of their own homes. Homes that they have lived in forever. It wouldn't matter where this occured. It is still a disgraceful act. I really can't see how any human being cannot sympathize with people in this situation.

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One wonders if there had been an ethnic "bible" discovered in Africa, or the Americas talking about homelands and persecuted individuals...would the world give back and resettle those "natives" to the detriment of those persons who had been living there for centuries?

Are Jews really a race or religious sect? Why have they been the subject of resentment for thousands of years....??

What really is behind the obvious hate and resentment behind everything from Herod, the Spanish Inquisition to Kristallnacht.

It occurs to me that some "greater power" must have a really warped sense of humour .......

Jews are not a race. Races don't actually exist biologically according to modern anthropologists. However, Jews have been subject to racism as they are often considered a race. What are Jews? That's a very complex question. Of course there is a Jewish religion but not only religious Jews are Jews. Of course there is Jewish nationalism represented by Zionism and Israel, but not all Jews are Zionists. Ask 100 Jews, get 100 answers. (Maybe that explains everything!). Of course there is more ethnic diversity among Jews than many people realize, Ashkenazi, Sephardim, Ethiopian, Chinese, converts from many backgrounds.

Here is some info about genetic evidence linking many modern Jews to the ancient tribe which, yes, was located in modern Israel.

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts-jews.html

No, I am not saying this is rationalization for the creation of Israel. Hitler provided that ...

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Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel. Anything built there can not be classed as a "settlement". UN wanke_rs.

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It is still a disgraceful act. I really can't see how any human being cannot sympathize with people in this situation.

I think I was clear enough already that I agree with you that it was wrong. Reread my posts, the inference was there already. I am saying you can't look at one symptom and see the entire picture. Edited by Jingthing

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One wonders if there had been an ethnic "bible" discovered in Africa, or the Americas talking about homelands and persecuted individuals...would the world give back and resettle those "natives" to the detriment of those persons who had been living there for centuries?

Are Jews really a race or religious sect? Why have they been the subject of resentment for thousands of years....??

What really is behind the obvious hate and resentment behind everything from Herod, the Spanish Inquisition to Kristallnacht.

It occurs to me that some "greater power" must have a really warped sense of humour .......

Jews are not a race. Races don't actually exist biologically according to modern anthropologists. However, Jews have been subject to racism as they are often considered a race. What are Jews? That's a very complex question. Of course there is a Jewish religion but not only religious Jews are Jews. Of course there is Jewish nationalism represented by Zionism and Israel, but not all Jews are Zionists. Ask 100 Jews, get 100 answers. (Maybe that explains everything!). Of course there is more ethnic diversity among Jews than many people realize, Ashkenazi, Sephardim, Ethiopian, Chinese, converts from many backgrounds.

Here is some info about genetic evidence linking many modern Jews to the ancient tribe which, yes, was located in modern Israel.

http://www.khazaria....racts-jews.html

No, I am not saying this is rationalization for the creation of Israel. Hitler provided that ...

I was always of the view that it was to do with religion. The Jewish religion so Jews. Islam as Muslim etc etc...

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Well, you're wrong because it isn't that simple at all!

Thais are Buddhists but so are Han Chinese. Are they the same people?

Did Hitler not kill secular non-religious Jews? Do most non-religious Jews (most Jews actually) not still consider themselves to be Jews?

Zionism wasn't specifically a religious movement and many of the most whacked out super religious Jews are radically anti-Zionist.

Please, complexity is part of life. Cope.

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Well, you're wrong because it isn't that simple at all!

Thais are Buddhists but so are Han Chinese. Are they the same people?

So are Cambodians, Vietnamese and alot od Burmese. You don't know what I am on about. Are you so sort of professor?

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It is time for the U.N to step in and take action against Israel even if it means by force. What they are doing here is truely barbaric.

Sound like you are smoking crack buddy.

I sure hope the lack of action will keep you up each & every night/. LOL.

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Well, you're wrong because it isn't that simple at all!

Thais are Buddhists but so are Han Chinese. Are they the same people?

Did Hitler not kill secular non-religious Jews? Do most non-religious Jews (most Jews actually) not still consider themselves to be Jews?

Zionism wasn't specifically a religious movement and many of the most whacked out super religious Jews are radically anti-Zionist.

Please, complexity is part of life. Cope.

It is only complex when people like yourself make it that way. Get your head out of the clouds and you might see that your on existance isn't as complex as you make it out to be.

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It is only complex when people like yourself make it that way. Get your head out of the clouds and you might see that your on existance isn't as complex as you make it out to be.

OK, if you say so. End of discussion. I don't play well with blatant proponents of irrational anti-intellectualism.

(Curious though, is that a symptom of "Thai-ier than though" you tink too much-ism?)

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It is time for the U.N to step in and take action against Israel even if it means by force. What they are doing here is truely barbaric.

Sound like you are smoking crack buddy.

I sure hope the lack of action will keep you up each & every night/. LOL.

UN forces vs. the IDF. How many minutes would that fight go on?

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