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Or was the guide really a guide or a body guard??Sounds a bit fishy this story already...treking with 100/100$ notes with him and the announcement that he was infact Japanese Mafia...the other guy has already been waltzed off to hospital by villagers!More to this little story yet for sure..wether we get to hear it is another matter!

So the tour guide had the gun in order to 'defend tourists'! Is that normal practice for tour guides I wonder? As for the deceased being yakuza, I'd love to know how that conclusion was arrived at, perhaps he wrote it on his arrival/departure card under occupation. :whistling:

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I am always amazed and how quickly the police can find incriminating information on the VICTIM of a crime. Usually they couldn't find an elephant in Volkswagen. Sadly, the dead guy can't tell his side of the story.

:) Actually the "victim" -- which should actually just say "deceased" --- if as heavily inked as the pixillated picture looks, could reasonably be a mobster. It certainly appears as if theft wasn't a motive for the death, and "tourists" as a general rule don't wander around armed .....

I hope more comes out on this story, but realistically, how will it end? If the dead guy is mobbed up then the Japanese embassy will liely not be chasing after resolution and the guide's story may check out.

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Well speaking about "warm and friendly " thai hospitality, my building contractors advised me today that apparently they do not need to say please or thank you( when get money or want something) because this is Thailand and I am nothing but a foreighnet!

Naturally they they were asked to remove themselves from the premises in a specified set of time.

Of course threats did follow but unlucky for them and lucky for me my own staff( from south) really decent people explained to contractors in not so nice thai what happens in south to those who threaten and speak in this manner.

Back to topic- the scariest part of the story is according to the guide he shot them because they were complaining yet he never mentioned that he even apologized for being late.

I guess even Japanese are not good enough in some thai eyes.

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This news was all over Japanese media since yesterday, but none of it said the victim was a yakuza.

They had guns on them and $10,000 in cash. This Takushi guy is also meant to be the leader of the third largest 'gang' in Japan according to the article.

I wonder what their real reason was for going into the Jungle.

If what's said in the article he should be released without charge as it's a case of self defence.

Just a couple of Japanese tourists who want to go trekking,but first of all lets buy a gun,oh and we take a heap of money with us.Now we are late for our rendevous and i am pretty angry---think i will kill this useless tour guide-------then what?

Thinks me---the tour guide did the right thing----get the first shot in------safer that way--------and you get to tell your story---------simple explanation really-------what else in the news?

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Treking to see 'hill tribes' in the Golden Triangle with a 9mmm and 10 grand in cash. Clearly looking to set up a heroin deal with a down payment.

I wouldn't have given good odds on the tour guide getting out of this trip alive if he hadn't fired back. I firmly suspect he didn't like these guys early on when he picked them up or booked the trip, and that's why he brought the gun of his own.

And yeah all those tats sure are a dead give away....

Lets see some shots of his finger joints. Any Missing?

And these guys seem to have had little tolerance for roughing it in any way.

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Questions to ask. How did he get the gun "into" Thailand in the first place? Bad airport screening at two separate locations? Or did he buy it once he got here? If that happen who's his contact? :ph34r:

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Karma leads to calmer. Just deserts if the murder is related and proven. Good one - Khun Apichart the Thai guide - he shot in self defense. Goes to show - having the end joint of the little finger missing - does not help in gun balance. No wonder he gave himself up though. Rightly or wrongly he believes in Thai Justice and in this case it may just work - he may go free. ph34r.gif

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Treking to see 'hill tribes' in the Golden Triangle with a 9mmm and 10 grand in cash. Clearly looking to set up a heroin deal with a down payment.

I wouldn't have given good odds on the tour guide getting out of this trip alive if he hadn't fired back. I firmly suspect he didn't like these guys early on when he picked them up or booked the trip, and that's why he brought the gun of his own.

And yeah all those tats sure are a dead give away....

Lets see some shots of his finger joints. Any Missing?

And these guys seem to have had little tolerance for roughing it in any way.

Point of order --- change "heroin" to a more generic "dugs" since the manufacture of Meth is prevalent in the area too (wither as pills -- yaabaa --- or as crystal meth -- yaa ice

How many murder cases in Thailand do you hear about where they found not only a gun with the victim and 300,000 Baht with the victim, but also that the killer turns himself in?

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So the tour guide had the gun in order to 'defend tourists'! Is that normal practice for tour guides I wonder? As for the deceased being yakuza, I'd love to know how that conclusion was arrived at, perhaps he wrote it on his arrival/departure card under occupation. :whistling:

Pretty easy to identify a Yakuza if the Thai police checked with Japanese police (presumably through the embassy).

The Yakuza register with the police in Japan, so most Yakuza members are well-known by the police. They're virtual card-carriers, supplied by the local police. The registration arrangement is a convenience for both parties. As long as the Yakuza register, pay taxes on their earnings (including the ubiquitous Pachinko Parlors which they own), and don't bother the common citizen, the police stay off their backs. What's in it for the police? No trouble & social "harmony" maintained. It's a live and let-live arrangement.

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I am always amazed and how quickly the police can find incriminating information on the VICTIM of a crime. Usually they couldn't find an elephant in Volkswagen. Sadly, the dead guy can't tell his side of the story.

Ifr the BIB reported finding ten grand, I wonder how much he was really carrying ? maybe a dope deal going down that went wrong ,

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This news was all over Japanese media since yesterday, but none of it said the victim was a yakuza.

They had guns on them and $10,000 in cash. This Takushi guy is also meant to be the leader of the third largest 'gang' in Japan according to the article.

I wonder what their real reason was for going into the Jungle.

If what's said in the article he should be released without charge as it's a case of self defence.

Regardless, this will go over like a turd in a punchbowl with the Japanese mob...if so affiliated.

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So the moral of the story is don't complain to your tour guide just smile and act like you are enjoying yourself. Complaint resolution Thai style.

No the moral sounds more like, don't draw and shot at a tour guide, regardless of words, remember sticks and stones might brake ones bones and guns could sure do some damage or something like that. If that's what happened.

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something very sashimi fishy going wrong here 10k a gun holster ,guns not the normal trekking pack stuff here (gps and chocolate bars ect) seen one of the cops in the pic he"s on the bus check points a lot going up to masai seen him on visa runs. So whats it all about?could be a contracted hit even or a deal gone wrong funny that one of the japs was wearing a gun on the trekk??? for shooting birds maybe? very strange but a drug encounter of some degree more likely maybe more will come out soon interesting.Self defence is plausable at this stage maybe when the wounded man tlaks if he talks we might find out. I didn't know you could pack iron on trekking tours unless your afraid the tour guides a loose canon.

One word comes to mind... opium. Lots of it.

The tour guide has his office just down the street from my home and my Thai girlfriend knows him as an OK person. The village where the shootout took place is known as a "drug village" and this would look to me like a drug deal gone wrong except for the fact that the Japanese gangster was to high up to be doing an underlings drug purchasing work. Big boys don't take chances and carry the drugs themselves. The money was just the way a hood like this carries his cash around. They don't like to use credit cards, travellers checks or ATM cards. Japanese hoods are known to have bad tempers and if this nut also needed to carry a gun on a trek then a hot argument with the guide could get the hood angry enough to pull his gun. He may have been on yaba too. One less rat in town. What's the problem?

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