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Replacing that other Thai Airways-related airline, Nok? Or is this a further attempt to squeeze Air Asia off the route, so that all these related companies can work the prices up. My cynicism knows no bounds :rolleyes:

A fourth airline on the route (already up to 7 flights a day each way to Bangkok) is looking like an embarrassment of riches, but hooray - particularly to have a further Swampy connection - as long as AA remains!

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Replacing that other Thai Airways-related airline, Nok? Or is this a further attempt to squeeze Air Asia off the route, so that all these related companies can work the prices up. My cynicism knows no bounds :rolleyes:

A fourth airline on the route (already up to 7 flights a day each way to Bangkok) is looking like an embarrassment of riches, but hooray - particularly to have a further Swampy connection - as long as AA remains!

Seems to be market saturation - in this case, Ubon.

I've always thought that there was a place for service amongst the handful of larger domestic carriers in the mid-range market, places where little or no airline service exist and surely would be appreciated - Isaan, the northwest and west, and the south. Over the last few years, these smaller markets have suffered at the hands of the concentrated competition at a selected fews ports of entry.

For whatever reason - Thai Airways, Nok Air, Asia Air, and the new Thai Smile don't seem to understand the broader profitability in serving the smaller mid-range markets.....as there is a willing and ready clientele destined for the starving markets.

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Jay- SO? Why do you need to fly? No fun in flying .Hassles getting to and from airports. Waiting time .Airports are such fun places to wait in, aren't they? Me ? I love the train. ( overnight), 2nd class sleeper, fun talking ,yes actually communicating with real people . and sharing a few ales with like minded people in the restaurant car.Looking at the scenery .Cannot do that from a plane. Be a brain ,Travel by Train. Be a pain ,travel by plane>

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Jay- SO? Why do you need to fly? No fun in flying .Hassles getting to and from airports. Waiting time .Airports are such fun places to wait in, aren't they? Me ? I love the train. ( overnight), 2nd class sleeper, fun talking ,yes actually communicating with real people . and sharing a few ales with like minded people in the restaurant car.Looking at the scenery .Cannot do that from a plane. Be a brain ,Travel by Train. Be a pain ,travel by plane>

I've long belonged to your camp, afarang.

When we find ourselves in need of inter-country travel, for whatever reason, we rest on the less complicated venues of coach, train, or taxi. There is nothing convenient, time-saving, nor a value than this attempt to fly from point A to B in Thailand - it's just not worth the headaches.

There are some circles that still lather over the prospects of domestic air travel as akin to ease-of-life. Though, many find out that this is not so. I would prefer not to be taken prisoner at the whims of the not very efficient air travel systems that inherently plague cross-country commutes.

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afarang- SO? Why do you need to take the train? No fun in trains .Hassles getting to and from train stations. Waiting time .Train stations are such fun places to wait in, aren't they? Me ? I love the plane( faster), economy class , fun talking ,yes actually communicating with real people . and sharing a few stories with like minded people in the .Looking at the scenery .Can do that from a plane. Scared of flying? ,Travel by Train. Be there first ,travel by plane>

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afarang- SO? Why do you need to take the train? No fun in trains .Hassles getting to and from train stations. Waiting time .Train stations are such fun places to wait in, aren't they? Me ? I love the plane( faster), economy class , fun talking ,yes actually communicating with real people . and sharing a few stories with like minded people in the .Looking at the scenery .Can do that from a plane. Scared of flying? ,Travel by Train. Be there first ,travel by plane>

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No inconvenience or hassles in air travel, is there?

Especially, if one doesn't have the luxury of living close enough too those few selected major airports....:rolleyes:

Travel time to the respected airport. Waiting. More waiting....even more wasted time transiting to said airport.

Safety and maintenance issues are at play, as well. Thai domestic carriers don't have such a sterling reputation, do they?

....and then, waiting. The bladdy waiting. In the same frame, one could be at their destination from alternative travel.

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If anyone tried to tell me that it was more convenient to travel from Ubon to Bangkok via train or bus instead of a plane I will call you stupid. I would then prove it to make sure anyone else reading realises the fact.

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I don't travel to/from Ubon as much as I would like but the chances we have had to fly have been enjoyable experiences mostly and never had any major problems or delays. NokAir seemed a bit of a free for all in terms of getting a seat but Thai airways were very good. Having said that i've always promised myself a train ride just for the hell of it to see what it is like. Each to his own but I certainly don't think that the frequent flyers are fools in any way as it still remains the least painful way up to Ubon. Hired a mini-bus and driver to get family upto Ubon once through the night and that was scary. Had to keep one eye open on the driver in case he fell a sleep at the wheel. Not likely to do that again in a rush!

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Hi Jay,

For quite some time now Nok Air have had allocated seating for no charge. They even give you a snack and a drink. They are my favorite budget airline at the moment.

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If anyone tried to tell me that it was more convenient to travel from Ubon to Bangkok via train or bus instead of a plane I will call you stupid. I would then prove it to make sure anyone else reading realises the fact.

That anyone else reading your stupidity realises the fact of your stupidity?You are the stupid one.

You refuse to get it ,don't you? WE do not want to fly overland.!! We far prefer to go , preferably by train. I have travelled all over Thailand. By train .NEVER by plane and NEVER will. Overland. The pleasure ,the fun I have had on trains, where you are FREE to move around, interact with people , often in the restaurant car, is exquisite. Plane in Thailand is about one hour travel where for about 20 minutes,both Up and Down you are locked in your seat.You spend at least 40 minutes "locked In" You cannot have a long "involvement' with other people, So ,please don't crap on about how you have LONG involvements with other people. 40 minutes,up and down leaves you about 20 minutes available for discourse, with your immediate neighbour.On the train ,we have many joyful hours. I have been on all bar one overnight sleeper trains in Thailand,.Some , many times - Butterworth, Sungai Golok. Chiang Mai , Nong Khai ,and yes, yes,even, Ubon Ratchathani.May I be permitted to make a loud noise from one of my orifices?

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If anyone tried to tell me that it was more convenient to travel from Ubon to Bangkok via train or bus instead of a plane I will call you stupid. I would then prove it to make sure anyone else reading realises the fact.

That anyone else reading your stupidity realises the fact of your stupidity?You are the stupid one.

You refuse to get it ,don't you? WE do not want to fly overland.!! We far prefer to go , preferably by train. I have travelled all over Thailand. By train .NEVER by plane and NEVER will. Overland. The pleasure ,the fun I have had on trains, where you are FREE to move around, interact with people , often in the restaurant car, is exquisite. Plane in Thailand is about one hour travel where for about 20 minutes,both Up and Down you are locked in your seat.You spend at least 40 minutes "locked In" You cannot have a long "involvement' with other people, So ,please don't crap on about how you have LONG involvements with other people. 40 minutes,up and down leaves you about 20 minutes available for discourse, with your immediate neighbour.On the train ,we have many joyful hours. I have been on all bar one overnight sleeper trains in Thailand,.Some , many times - Butterworth, Sungai Golok. Chiang Mai , Nong Khai ,and yes, yes,even, Ubon Ratchathani.May I be permitted to make a loud noise from one of my orifices?

Your comments are just a tad one sided I would say, having travelled many ways to and from Surin, I find the VIP bus over night is cheap and ok if you can sleep, the first class sleepers are often fully booked on the train, second class ok, but overnight travel does not have the same experience value as a cheap wooden seat daytrip where you have the experience of all the various food at the stops, and mix with the Thai travellers

Flying for me, even though the final journey leg is an hour or so from the airport, is the mode of travel where I can say I arrive most rested.

I normally travel by VIP coach, if I have plenty of time, just because for more than one traveller coach is so much cheaper. Minibus hire is way more than it used to be, and if you can get first class sleeper, is the cost not much cheaper than current airline tickets?

When I was single, I too favoured the train, and yes it was entertaining, but during the day when you could see the scenery, yes a good way to travel especially if you have bags of time. Now as the family has grown other options are more favourable, for one reason or another. I am pleased flights are available and although I would say a first time visitor might miss out on the train experience by flying, I feel a seasoned traveller should be allowed to make his journey effortless, as flying just about is.

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Your comments are just a tad one sided I would say,

Rather stating the obvious I would think considering he says "I have travelled all over Thailand. By train .NEVER by plane and NEVER will. "

Can't really see how he can compare planes in Thailand when he has never set foot inside one.

Besides afarang, once again you seem to have caught the 'not reading carefully before mouthing off' disease. I simply said that planes are more convenient (especially in regards to the OP JayUk) then buses or trains from Ubon to Bangkok. I don't care if you can walk around and bore to death fellow travellers with tales of your bus rides around Thailand, that is not convenient - it is simply something you obviously enjoy. Please try and explain to me how it can be more convenient. I know you cannot.

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There was a time when I would have preferred to travel domestically by air. It was a choice that I enjoyed and appreciated.

Certainly, commuting by air within the borders has change, drammatically, for the worst. Seems like all the committed domestic air carriers have turned suckee overnight. They all have a history of financial troubles, disrespectful and mindless service, unreputable maintenance, and typical Thai indifference towards everything.

If one considers how many domestic airlines have come and gone in the last 10-15 years, it's mind-boggling. Some start-ups don't even get off the ground. Yet, all the expected slobbering and gushing is expected when these new regional carriers clarion themselves when they have yet to prove anything.

Remembering the days when Thai Airways domestic served dozens upon dozens of major and minor airports with a broad and efficient network.......even the [then young] fledging Bangkok Air served a purpose before their ideals to expand unnecessarily became their downfall.

Today, airline service doesn't have to be efficient and gracious because we don't expect it - therefore being perpetuated.

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