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20-Year-Old Briton Electrocuted To Death On Bangla Road, Phuket

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Also that doesnt sound like AC current? Its usually high vold DC current that makes you drop or cant release something when shocked it contracts the muscles. AC was introduced because it makes you jump i you get a shock, jump away and release the wire/plug etc

I think that you will find that the exact opposite applies ! DC causes a violent shock that 'normally' causes the body to be thrown off the power source; whereas AC causes the muscles to contract in sympathy with the frequency of the supply line - typically 50 cycles per second and you 'normally' cannot release your hand etc from the supply.

I understand that if you use an 'Isolating Transformer' you have NO reference (circuit/conducting path) to earth and therefore the only way that you can sustain a 'shock' under these conditions is to be in contact with BOTH of the supply lines at the same time and hence form a conducting path for the current to flow. Hence the reason for using the 'Isolation Transformer'when working with electrical equipment like drills etc when working outside or inside come to that. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than myself would like to comment on this and why if this IS the case do we have AC supplies that ARE referenced to Earth in the first place?

With regard to the comment about someone not using swimming pools out here in Thailand; I can only assume that one could only receive a 'shock' if there was faulty wiring around the pool that contacted the water itself, because the underwater pool lights are normally run off 'Isolating transformers' that step the AC down from AC 220v to around AC 12v to supply the halogen lamps in the underwater fittings. The AC 12v would in itself not be sufficient to cause any shock and again it would be isolated from an earth/water reference, provided that there was no problem with the said transformer.

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electrocutions not limited to Thailand, these UK stats for 2007 - couldn't find more recent - some data from UK from the Electrical Safety Council

1. Low voltage electrocutions and fatal electrical burns in the UK in 2007 from low voltage electricity supplies i

  • Total: 28
  • Work related electrocutions: nine
  • Home or leisure electrocutions: 19

2. Electric shocks:

  • People receiving a mains voltage electric shock per year (18-65): 2.5 million*
  • Of whom had a significant injury: 1.2 million**
  • Of whom were admitted to hospital: 200,000

...

5. Number of homes in UK without adequate RCD (Residual-current device) protection at the consumer unit by number and percentage of houses.

  • All types of housing tenure: 12.9 million (49%)
  • Owner occupied: 9.7 million (52%)
  • Private rented: 1.65 million (52%)
  • Local Authority: 890,000 (38%)
  • Registered social landlord: 660,000 (30%)

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In Thailand there is no health and safety standards that are internationally recognized. People should be aware of when visiting Thailand one should be over cautious and sharp minded with focus to one safety. My heart goes out to the young mans family - Tragic indeed!

Talking about lack of health & safety standards, I was recently on a Sunday Wat tour of the Mekong with Thai friends on bus from Lard Prao usually used weekdays for city passengers. The bus had a very large sticker on the windscreen (yes, the windscreen, doesn't help driver visibility) advertising it was ISO 2001 compliant. Apart from no seat belts throughout, the large area at the front normally used by standing passengers was filled with loosely placed plastic chairs.

Caveat emptor or whatever but no wonder everyone in LOS says "take care" - you really need to be aware and look out for yourself at all times.

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In Thailand there is no health and safety standards that are internationally recognized. People should be aware of when visiting Thailand one should be over cautious and sharp minded with focus to one safety. My heart goes out to the young mans family - Tragic indeed!

. That's the reason more tourists die in Thailand every year than any other country,they are naive and ignorant of the dangers .Thai tourism advertising does not warn them of the dangers on the contrary they promote it as a safe friendly destination.

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In Thailand there is no health and safety standards that are internationally recognized. People should be aware of when visiting Thailand one should be over cautious and sharp minded with focus to one safety. My heart goes out to the young mans family - Tragic indeed!

. That's the reason more tourists die in Thailand every year than any other country,they are naive and ignorant of the dangers .Thai tourism advertising does not warn them of the dangers on the contrary they promote it as a safe friendly destination.

Naivety and ignorance are two of the factors but stupidity places at least an equal part - amazing that so many people still think that Thailand is Kansas.

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I wasn't surprised by this shocking story. Neither was I shocked by this surprising story.

Something will done promptly after the City elders hold their meeting, be sure of that. I can see them resolving:

to deny it ever happened

ignore any calls for H&S

blame the farang for being there

add that he had a personal or business conflict with the power company

Next.

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I don't get it. Reading here I only see criticisms of the Thai way. You don't seem to realize that things like this actually are what make Thailand what it is; the place we have chosen to live or visit on holiday. Here there aren't laws and regulations for everything; and the ones there are aren't enforced very strictly. This gives you the wonderful freedom to use your head and be responsible for yourself instead of having others packing you into cotton balls and deciding what's best for you.

I surely feel sorry for the young man's family and friends because of this tragic accident. However Thailand is what it is and accident like this occur here. Before going here on holiday, or to live here, you should be aware of that, and make up your mind whether you are willing to run the risks that goes with it or not. People ought to be responsible for themselves instead of always just blaming things on others.

I have worked and lived most of my life in 3rdworld countries, been in the midst of civil wars, terrorist attacks, mob rule, and similar stuff. Yet I'm still alive, have never been hurt, badly cheated, or otherwise burned my fingers severely. I surely had my share of bad experiences, but when that happened I only blamed myself for my lack of forethought, not the place or the people I had chosen to be amongst. Once I had a close friend killed by a dentist in Bangladesh. Who's really to blame? The poorly educated dentist who gave my friend an overdose of anaesthesia or my highly educated friend who was stupid enough to go to a dentist in Bangladesh? If you are a smoker and catch lungcancer can you then blame the tobacco industry?

If you want babysitter mentality with laws and regulations for everything try out a place like Denmark or Singapore instead of Thailand. I'm sure you're going to love it :bah: .

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I don't get it. Reading here I only see criticisms of the Thai way. You don't seem to realize that things like this actually are what make Thailand what it is; the place we have chosen to live or visit on holiday. Here there aren't laws and regulations for everything; and the ones there are aren't enforced very strictly. This gives you the wonderful freedom to use your head and be responsible for yourself instead of having others packing you into cotton balls and deciding what's best for you.

I surely feel sorry for the young man's family and friends because of this tragic accident. However Thailand is what it is and accident like this occur here. Before going here on holiday, or to live here, you should be aware of that, and make up your mind whether you are willing to run the risks that goes with it or not. People ought to be responsible for themselves instead of always just blaming things on others.

I have worked and lived most of my life in 3rdworld countries, been in the midst of civil wars, terrorist attacks, mob rule, and similar stuff. Yet I'm still alive, have never been hurt, badly cheated, or otherwise burned my fingers severely. I surely had my share of bad experiences, but when that happened I only blamed myself for my lack of forethought, not the place or the people I had chosen to be amongst. Once I had a close friend killed by a dentist in Bangladesh. Who's really to blame? The poorly educated dentist who gave my friend an overdose of anaesthesia or my highly educated friend who was stupid enough to go to a dentist in Bangladesh? If you are a smoker and catch lungcancer can you then blame the tobacco industry?

If you want babysitter mentality with laws and regulations for everything try out a place like Denmark or Singapore instead of Thailand. I'm sure you're going to love it :bah: .

Newbie or not that was an outstanding post, agreed totally.

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I can understand if you chosse to live here and make an informoned choice...BUT this poor guys life taken away, on holiday..I feel so much for the family and friends...god bless.....RIP bud, some may forget but a lot wont..sleep well :(

Seconded. T/A

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I saw a Thai guy electrocuted while up a pole. He was thrown clear and his colleagues put a corregated iron sheet on him for ten minutes. Then he got up and went back up the pole! amazing

Anyway I am glad to see that the girls local to the accident now wear rubber shoes........er what about non locals?

Why is there no reference in the article to the owner /manager of the socket. What is his/her comment? Maybe that was the bit about now wearing shoes..................classic. Mai ben rai. Dont make a fuss.

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Difficult to understand why we have apologists for the irresponsibity of the Thai authorities on this health and safety matter or say on the carnage of motor accidents ( I saw a mother holding her motor bike with one hand - the small baby was in the other and this was very recently in heavy Hau Hin traffic ) The Thai elite are well educated ( many having been schooled in the UK or US) they know what poor standards exist for the majority of Thais but they ignore it; the police ignore it too ( most of the time) Thailand is a fast developing economy with a rapidly expanding clever wealthy ( undertaxed) middle class - further improvements can only come with a mature approach to society. It is patronising almost immoral to say Thailand is not Singapore or Japan etc., and its typical of Thai culture;if it is it should not be.

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Police report on the death of the young Briton.

The suspected reason that caused his death is most likely to be a faulty socket and it is probable that it might have been dangerous to touch. However, the exact reason could not be identified because the quantity of electricity samples from the case was insufficient.

Despite the best efforts of the Thai authorities and their international partners in undertaking an exhaustive investigation, the electricity that caused the death in this event could not be identified and it can not be determined exactly how the young man might have been exposed to it, or if he even attempted suicide.

Now that's what I call reporting. Great job.

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I saw a Thai guy electrocuted while up a pole. He was thrown clear and his colleagues put a corregated iron sheet on him for ten minutes. Then he got up and went back up the pole! amazing

Anyway I am glad to see that the girls local to the accident now wear rubber shoes........er what about non locals?

Why is there no reference in the article to the owner /manager of the socket. What is his/her comment? Maybe that was the bit about now wearing shoes..................classic. Mai ben rai. Dont make a fuss.

You can't beserious. Best laugh I had all day. Keep it up.

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I mean how could an electricity socket covered in water be so dangerous?

Freaking idiots.

This happened on a Las Vegas street a few years back, and the woman, who was simply walking across the street in the rain, stepped on a cover where the wires had been placed too close to the covering plate. She died. This guy was lucky by comparison.

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Tragedy about the young man. Now lets get to the facts, Everyone of you hypocrits come to Thailand because it is cheap. Why is it cheap no regulation and no enforcement of the regulations that they do have.

When you come to Southeast and South Asia you take your life in your hands, be it traffic, in this case electric, falls, insects, snakes and sometime the people. S--t happens except the facts of being in Asia or donot come or go home. Go on back home to your perfect cozy world where there is no danger and be bored out of your mind the reason many of you came here to start with but now want it to be exactly like home.

My best wishes to the mans family and is always sad when someone dies

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