mallmagician Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Sacred heart school sports day yesterday had students unfurling huge Nazi banners from the Windows. Nazi characters on posters included bin laden, Mr bean and square jaw himself. To top it off the students goose stepped out in full salute with matching Nazi uniform...... All apparantly approved by teachers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Too bad you did not get a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto21 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I tell you………………….That MR Bean, he gets everywhere. Do these ignorant teachers not know how offensive 'Bean' is to some of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Perhaps this thread could be merged with this one? Are Thais Taught Anything About The World Outside Of Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 That is hard to believe. (But I do believe you mallmagician). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallmagician Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 I have seen pics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's called freedom of expression....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallmagician Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Sure... It's called freedom of expression....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Sure... It's called freedom of expression....... Exactly the response I would expect from someone who expects others to take into account his historical hangups I would be interested to know what the performance was intended to convey......the inclusion of Mr Bean is interesting....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallmagician Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 More info.... I have seen pics, but the source of them won't let me post them for employment reasons.... It was the red team on the sports day that wore the outfits and goose stepped and proudly paraded the nazi banners and swastikas. Concerns were raised, but the teachers said it isn't bad in this country and allowed it to continue.... Anyway, I was disgusted, but thought I'd share here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james24 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 From what Ive heard Sacred Heart has gone down the spout. A hell of alot of farang teachers walked out. Apparently alot of the kids have been leaving too as the parents have noticed that the whole place is just a big scam. I actually used to teach there, the headmaster always came across as a bit of fake. Regarding the Nazi outfits that really does show how desperate and insecure some higher level people are here. Im sure they are well aware what it means to many westerners but believe me they would have let it go ahead to feel some sense of power over us. Anything spiteful here is always fuelled by insecurity and wanting to regrain some perception of lost strength, they never grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallmagician Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Sure... It's called freedom of expression....... Exactly the response I would expect from someone who expects others to take into account his historical hangups I would be interested to know what the performance was intended to convey......the inclusion of Mr Bean is interesting....... I said nothing about a hang up. I personally think it's very bad taste, and from a school, is unforgivable. But that's my opinion. You're entitled to your own opinion, so please carry on. But don't make this an attack on me, I'm just reporting what I've seen and heard... Do you work at the school, or are you as ignorant as they are? Just wondering.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalPoster Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's called freedom of expression....... I wonder what they were intending to express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's called freedom of expression....... I wonder what they were intending to express. That's probably the problem "not a lot". It was probably a crazy idea created by some teenager, slightly lacking in the grey stuff that fits between the 2 ears. In that scenario it would probably be better if one of the wise teachers could advise them to reenact the invasion of Chiang Mai by the Burmese instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie888888 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Are they displaying swastikas as a Nazi theme or swastikas as a Buddhist thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidOxon Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 what sort of age range are we talking here, too young to know better, or and age of awareness? Sounds pretty crass anyway! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto21 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 From what Ive heard Sacred Heart has gone down the spout. A hell of alot of farang teachers walked out. Apparently alot of the kids have been leaving too as the parents have noticed that the whole place is just a big scam. I actually used to teach there, the headmaster always came across as a bit of fake. Regarding the Nazi outfits that really does show how desperate and insecure some higher level people are here. Im sure they are well aware what it means to many westerners but believe me they would have let it go ahead to feel some sense of power over us. Anything spiteful here is always fuelled by insecurity and wanting to regrain some perception of lost strength, they never grow up. Good post 'james24'……Interesting. As for '473geo' comment…….. "It's called freedom of expression".......Well that OK then, they decided to 'express' the happy, smiley,'goose' stepping Nazis, and not the xenophobic fookwits they really were. I have to say, poor old MR Bean………This could put Thailand off the counties to visit on a world tour for him…That is of course unless he's really a closet 'brown shirt' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 From what Ive heard Sacred Heart has gone down the spout. A hell of alot of farang teachers walked out. Apparently alot of the kids have been leaving too as the parents have noticed that the whole place is just a big scam. I actually used to teach there, the headmaster always came across as a bit of fake. Regarding the Nazi outfits that really does show how desperate and insecure some higher level people are here. Im sure they are well aware what it means to many westerners but believe me they would have let it go ahead to feel some sense of power over us. Anything spiteful here is always fuelled by insecurity and wanting to regrain some perception of lost strength, they never grow up. Good post 'james24'……Interesting. As for '473geo' comment…….. "It's called freedom of expression".......Well that OK then, they decided to 'express' the happy, smiley,'goose' stepping Nazis, and not the xenophobic fookwits they really were. I have to say, poor old MR Bean………This could put Thailand off the counties to visit on a world tour for him…That is of course unless he's really a closet 'brown shirt' As is evident on this thread there are always differing views of the same topic.......and various levels of tolerance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto21 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 From what Ive heard Sacred Heart has gone down the spout. A hell of alot of farang teachers walked out. Apparently alot of the kids have been leaving too as the parents have noticed that the whole place is just a big scam. I actually used to teach there, the headmaster always came across as a bit of fake. Regarding the Nazi outfits that really does show how desperate and insecure some higher level people are here. Im sure they are well aware what it means to many westerners but believe me they would have let it go ahead to feel some sense of power over us. Anything spiteful here is always fuelled by insecurity and wanting to regrain some perception of lost strength, they never grow up. Good post 'james24'……Interesting. As for '473geo' comment…….. "It's called freedom of expression".......Well that OK then, they decided to 'express' the happy, smiley,'goose' stepping Nazis, and not the xenophobic fookwits they really were. I have to say, poor old MR Bean………This could put Thailand off the counties to visit on a world tour for him…That is of course unless he's really a closet 'brown shirt' As is evident on this thread there are always differing views of the same topic.......and various levels of tolerance..... True! However, on a sliding scale of tolerance, from; freedom of expression>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mass murder where would you place the following; Charles Manson, Timothy J. McVeigh & Terry Nichols ( body count 168) and MR Bean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Why not ask someone in the know at the school why this theme. Being Thais probably do not know better as they know very little outside Thailand as been reported here many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Are they displaying swastikas as a Nazi theme or swastikas as a Buddhist thing? Monks don't do the goose step and for the kids to have Nazi paraphernalia and know about the goose step then l assume they have watched videos on this stuff. Wonder if anyone wore a Belson uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Well if they committed mass murder in the proceedings.........I would say that is going a bit far........tolerant as I am...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 To most Thais the use of Buddha images as ornaments in the West is just as offensive. I know a Thai restaurant in the UK that has a large bust of Buddha on the floor next to the mats to brush the soles of shoes. This is also an example of ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I don't think the students wanted to express their support for Nazis and Hitler. They just needed a (funny) theme for their team. Those symbols don't mean much over here, Hitler has even been used as a advertisement lately in Pattaya. They don't know much about the mass murders. So I wouldn't loose too much energy in getting worked up about that. But the school certainly failed in its educational mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) It's not a public school it is a private christian school. From that point, a student individual freedoms should be limited if they are in conflict with the philosophy the school not to mention the philosophy of the world in general. Freedom of speech be damned in this case. The director of the school should resign and students punished. Edited September 24, 2011 by richard10365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venturalaw Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 what sort of age range are we talking here, too young to know better, or and age of awareness? Sounds pretty crass anyway! David I saw them marching by. The children looked to be between 7 - 10 years of age. I'm certain that they were unaware of the meaning of the revolting desplay, which begs the question; what was the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallmagician Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 The teachers that gave it the ok were made aware of the offensive nature, and were fully aware of the meaning to the west. The kids were all ages on the team, from youngsters to teens. All with nazi uniform etc etc. So no, they weren't using it in the Buddhist sense of the symbol... When western staff said it wasn't right, they were told that it is ok, and they were allowed to continue. Shocking. I have been told a school in bkk did this once, and had to make a public apology for it. I'm just trying to raise awareness of it. I for one will never place a child in that school if this is something they are ok with. What next? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallmagician Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 what sort of age range are we talking here, too young to know better, or and age of awareness? Sounds pretty crass anyway! David I saw them marching by. The children looked to be between 7 - 10 years of age. I'm certain that they were unaware of the meaning of the revolting desplay, which begs the question; what was the point? There were older kids too, but not in the march they did off site.... As far as I understand it, it was the kids idea, that the teachers approved of, even when told how offensive it could be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARISTIDE Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 This is not the WEST! It's not offensive here! It's not revolting for them. You are in Thailand not your country. Most Thai can't tell a different between a Jew a German or an Italian and so forth. They are all Farang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I think there is a similar Budhist symbol so don't get your panties in a know before you know for sure and like someone said "freedom of expression". One may not agree with something but everyone should have a right to freedom of expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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