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In the absence of a lawyer(s)sounds like they were being helpful with advice to a potentially naive Thai citizen. The expat is probably lucky that his spouse did not get advice from the Amphur,friends or family to get a lawyer...would a been a lot of screaming then I suspect.

In this case it was the woman who had the agreement authored by a lawyer. The agreement also stated that the woman was fully aware of her legal rights.

The nervousness from the husband was regarding the custody of the child.

I want to stress that the discussion the amphur staff had with the woman was not a legal advice, it was more in the region of trying to persuade the woman to nail the stupid farang. I also didn't reveal that I spoke Thai until the woman told them "she didn't want to be enemies with her husband" and asked them to stop, at which point the one woman shook her head in disgust (that's the way I perceived it).

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In the absence of a lawyer(s)sounds like they were being helpful with advice to a potentially naive Thai citizen. The expat is probably lucky that his spouse did not get advice from the Amphur,friends or family to get a lawyer...would a been a lot of screaming then I suspect.

In this case it was the woman who had the agreement authored by a lawyer. The agreement also stated that the woman was fully aware of her legal rights.

The nervousness from the husband was regarding the custody of the child.

I want to stress that the discussion the amphur staff had with the woman was not a legal advice, it was more in the region of trying to persuade the woman to nail the stupid farang. I also didn't reveal that I spoke Thai until the woman told them "she didn't want to be enemies with her husband" and asked them to stop, at which point the one woman shook her head in disgust (that's the way I perceived it).

hardly racism then...bureaucrats being officious,rude,arrogant,inappropriate, bitchy,....it happens...

....everywherein the world from doormen to parking lot attendants to customs officers, MVd clerks... sorry to say

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In the absence of a lawyer(s)sounds like they were being helpful with advice to a potentially naive Thai citizen. The expat is probably lucky that his spouse did not get advice from the Amphur,friends or family to get a lawyer...would a been a lot of screaming then I suspect.

In this case it was the woman who had the agreement authored by a lawyer. The agreement also stated that the woman was fully aware of her legal rights.

The nervousness from the husband was regarding the custody of the child.

I want to stress that the discussion the amphur staff had with the woman was not a legal advice, it was more in the region of trying to persuade the woman to nail the stupid farang. I also didn't reveal that I spoke Thai until the woman told them "she didn't want to be enemies with her husband" and asked them to stop, at which point the one woman shook her head in disgust (that's the way I perceived it).

hardly racism then...bureaucrats being officious,rude,arrogant,inappropriate, bitchy,....it happens...

....everywherein the world from doormen to parking lot attendants to customs officers, MVd clerks... sorry to say

Like I said, this may be the norm, not just during divorce between Thai and farang. Maybe I should have called it women's lib extreme...?

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The Bangkok Amphur sounds like any divorce lawyer in the US :)

But that is the whole point of the the bone of contension,they are not Lawyers,and have no right to take on that role,they are merely there to facilitate the end of a Marriage, legally!

How can a expat assume to know the "role" of any Thai official?

In the absence of a lawyer(s)sounds like they were being helpful with advice to a potentially naive Thai citizen. The expat is probably lucky that his spouse did not get advice from the Amphur,friends or family to get a lawyer...would a been a lot of screaming then I suspect.

I fail to see what all the shouting of 'isms is about? Bordering on Paranoia methinks....

Consider a scenario where it was maybe your sister or close friend getting a divorce from say a potentially well heeled Arab or ...??

You just can't win with the TV punters.

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The Bangkok Amphur sounds like any divorce lawyer in the US :)

But that is the whole point of the the bone of contension,they are not Lawyers,and have no right to take on that role,they are merely there to facilitate the end of a Marriage, legally!

How can a expat assume to know the "role" of any Thai official?

In the absence of a lawyer(s)sounds like they were being helpful with advice to a potentially naive Thai citizen. The expat is probably lucky that his spouse did not get advice from the Amphur,friends or family to get a lawyer...would a been a lot of screaming then I suspect.

I fail to see what all the shouting of 'isms is about? Bordering on Paranoia methinks....

Consider a scenario where it was maybe your sister or close friend getting a divorce from say a potentially well heeled Arab or ...??

You just can't win with the TV punters.

It depends on how it was brought by the people in the Ampur. If it was just formal informing her of her rights or if it was said that now is the time to take the foreigner to the cleaners.

Its quite normal in Holland to do the same and i see no problem here.

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Adding to that: It's good to be aware that the Thai language is not always as simple as add X + Y and it equals XY. รู้มาก is not necessarily a plain statement like 'knows a lot' (it CAN be, but not always). It can be a compound with any of these meanings 'to be shrewd, to be greedy, to be selfish, to take advantage of'. Just throwing it out there in the hopes that some will now know a little more than before.

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The Bangkok Amphur sounds like any divorce lawyer in the US :)

But that is the whole point of the the bone of contension,they are not Lawyers,and have no right to take on that role,they are merely there to facilitate the end of a Marriage, legally!

How can a expat assume to know the "role" of any Thai official?

In the absence of a lawyer(s)sounds like they were being helpful with advice to a potentially naive Thai citizen. The expat is probably lucky that his spouse did not get advice from the Amphur,friends or family to get a lawyer...would a been a lot of screaming then I suspect.

I fail to see what all the shouting of 'isms is about? Bordering on Paranoia methinks....

Consider a scenario where it was maybe your sister or close friend getting a divorce from say a potentially well heeled Arab or ...??

Well actually it's very easy to know! it was biased advice,which put a Farang at a disadvantage, and of course the Farangs side of the agreement was not even considered.

They should stick to their real job,and stop playing amateur Lawyers and Judges.

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Racism starts at the local hardware shop. When any dealer inflates the price for a foreigner, that is racism. My general cheerfullness and trust, perhaps naivety, was compromised when I bought a power tool at 2500baht over the recommended price. It's endemic, a product of the culture of corruption and under any light it is racist. It doesn't matter whether the issue is a marital dispute or a belt sander, the Farang is often seen as an easy target and that is racism, pure and simple.

If Thais were treated the same way in my home country, as Farangs are treated here, the court system would become clogged very quickly by the disaffected seeking recompence.

It is disheartening at times!

Never a truer word spoken! (Imagine trying to take this to the courts here or the "Race Relations Board")

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The Bangkok Amphur sounds like any divorce lawyer in the US :)

exactly what I was thinking ...UK, Canada or Australia included...have a young friend in UK that, even as a cuckold, still got taken to the cleaners for life... pension included!

...it's understandable that nationals favor there own against perceived errant wealthy foreigners...?

When we got married our local amphor grilled my wife as to my ability to support her...sort of like a prospective FIL ...lol

Doubt that was the case, more like being bloody nosy as usual.

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In comparison with what Farangs normally say about Thai people on Thai Visa, racism at this Amphur is marginal and footling.

Not to mention Blatant!

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it became a national question in April this year, that a thai woman should not be without propper compensation after a divorce from a farang husband.

"The main problem is that their foreign husbands have affairs and want a divorce, despite them having kids together," said Ms Kanokrat.

She said many of the women did not have enough money to sue their husbands for abandonment and sought help from her association.

Somkid Homnet, a consultant working with the Department of Labour and Social Welfare who carried out a study concerning foreign spouses in Udon Thani province last year, presented the findings at the seminar.

there was a big media campain,

and the website was promoted for every thai woman,

who is married, or wants to marry a farang.

http://www.thaiforeignspouse.com/

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Racism starts at the local hardware shop. When any dealer inflates the price for a foreigner, that is racism. My general cheerfullness and trust, perhaps naivety, was compromised when I bought a power tool at 2500baht over the recommended price. It's endemic, a product of the culture of corruption and under any light it is racist. It doesn't matter whether the issue is a marital dispute or a belt sander, the Farang is often seen as an easy target and that is racism, pure and simple.

If Thais were treated the same way in my home country, as Farangs are treated here, the court system would become clogged very quickly by the disaffected seeking recompence.

It is disheartening at times!

Never a truer word spoken! (Imagine trying to take this to the courts here or the "Race Relations Board")

May I ask where stupidity starts for paying 2500baht over the odds?

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I think may be it is what the officer should do at a divorce situation to ask if the couple are making any mistake. Also they may wonder why so many farang like to marry bar girls from isaan and expect better from them.

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